Talk to your kids about Fentanyl

[Mission408]

Just think of how much of this crap is coming over the boarder headed into our communities, walking right through everyone's property and deer lease.

[vanmedic]

Ok. Whatever you say.


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Absolutely is being used “adulterated” cutting , cheaper than Heroin , 1000 micrograms or “ 1mg” goes a very long way and keeps purchasers of whatever drugs coming back for the extra high they get. I have run countless OD’s on drugs cut with Fentanyl. For instance a single dose of fentanyl I administer to say a chest pain or trauma patient would receive 75-100 micrograms so 1mg is 10 normal adult doses, respiratory arrest is imminent. Graysongs is 100% correct, such a small amount has a large effect, cut crap cheap drugs cut with extremely small amount of fentanyl keeps the users coming back for more.

[Redfeathers]

They add they fentynal to increase the perceived potency of whatever they're selling. If you're selling heroin, your buyers want a near death experience when they shoot up. That's what they think is good ****.
When you add it to fake Xanax or Ecstasy pills, not so much.

^^This as well

[PondPopper]

It is biological warfare and nothing less... It should be treated as such but politicians at every level are getting filthy rich so it will continue..

[PondPopper]

Just think of how much of this crap is coming over the boarder headed into our communities, walking right through everyone's property and deer lease.

It's being allowed in.. Just sickening..

[7sdad]

Heard about this on the radio the other day.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/largest-fentanyl-seizure-tarrant-county-history

[jaime1982]

DRUGS KILL!!!!

Been this way and won't change. Likely started with "just weed"

You mean just 1 beer or wine cooler.

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[Laketex]

I'm going to just have my 13 year old daughter read this whole thread. Good info, I had no idea it was such a big issue or that it was so disguised. Appreciate the OP for starting this thread!

[Jeremy7306]

It has been said a few times on the thread but Just an fyi- fentanyl doesn’t not easily get absorbed through the skin. Many people get prescribed fentanyl patches for chronic pain. None of the officers that suffered an “OD” from brushing off fentanyl were confirmed to be an opioid overdose. Now this isn’t to say it needs to be played with without proper PPE, but it’s just not how this type of fentanyl works. Even inhaled would take a significant amount, specifically referring to the low risk to first responders.

But the opioid problem OD is pretty serious, fairly common to deal with in my line of work. Most don’t even let us transport them to the hospital after we fix them. Also most of them try and tell us they did not take any opioids, which the the ONLY thing narcan works on.


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[MadHatter]

With an addict mentality they want the best high they can get . When they find out someone had OD on a suppliers supply the flock to them . I have a few relatives that are in recovery. That is how they have all explained it to me .

I don't disagree.
When you talk about cutting something, I've always understood it to mean doubling your product, halving the potency.
This is more like lacing your product.

[Quackerbox]

It has been said a few times on the thread but Just an fyi- fentanyl doesn’t not easily get absorbed through the skin. Many people get prescribed fentanyl patches for chronic pain. None of the officers that suffered an “OD” from brushing off fentanyl were confirmed to be an opioid overdose. Now this isn’t to say it needs to be played with without proper PPE, but it’s just not how this type of fentanyl works. Even inhaled would take a significant amount, specifically referring to the low risk to first responders.

But the opioid problem OD is pretty serious, fairly common to deal with in my line of work. Most don’t even let us transport them to the hospital after we fix them. Also most of them try and tell us they did not take any opioids, which the the ONLY thing narcan works on.


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I don't know about that. I know two people that got ambulance rides over touching packages.

I've sat outside apartments and trailer houses while dea meth teams clear them with bio suits and airpacks. When cooks or users died inside.

I'll will agree its not all the same. I messed with the packaging and vials of the liquid version prior to the influx of deaths related to it. The boxes got stolen from a vet clinic and I spent a week processing the boxes etc for prints

[3DW5]

It has been said a few times on the thread but Just an fyi- fentanyl doesn’t not easily get absorbed through the skin. Many people get prescribed fentanyl patches for chronic pain. None of the officers that suffered an “OD” from brushing off fentanyl were confirmed to be an opioid overdose. Now this isn’t to say it needs to be played with without proper PPE, but it’s just not how this type of fentanyl works. Even inhaled would take a significant amount, specifically referring to the low risk to first responders.

But the opioid problem OD is pretty serious, fairly common to deal with in my line of work. Most don’t even let us transport them to the hospital after we fix them. Also most of them try and tell us they did not take any opioids, which the the ONLY thing narcan works on.


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Just a slight correction, many people are NOT gives fentanyl patches, in fact one major cancer hospital in Houston will not give it unless you are terminal…. FYI

[Jeremy7306]

I don't know about that. I know two people that got ambulance rides over touching packages.

I've sat outside apartments and trailer houses while dea meth teams clear them with bio suits and airpacks. When cooks or users died inside.

I'll will agree its not all the same. I messed with the packaging and vials of the liquid version prior to the influx of deaths related to it. The boxes got stolen from a vet clinic and I spent a week processing the boxes etc for prints

I should clarify that I am specifically talking about a brief exposure, example of an officer touching a small amount of fentanyl or a person touching a “fentanyl laced napkin”. That mode of exposure just doesn’t work that way to cause a significant overdose. The instances of officers overdosing on fentanyl were not proven to be overdoses on fentanyl and attributed to anxiety surround an exposure. Solely passing out in not an indication of opioid overdose.

Fentanyl and other opioids are far different from amphetamines, amphetamines are basically the opposite of an opioid as it comes to signs and symptoms. I will post an article specifically address the risk of fentanyl to first responders. Yes wearing appropriate PPE like those agents is advised in areas suspected of high concentration of a toxic substance.

https://www.acmt.net/_Library/Positions/Fentanyl_PPE_Emergency_Responders_.pdf

I am assuming that your are a police officer, and if so I hope you do carry narcan in your unit. I just wouldn’t want you or any other police officer not administering narcan to a person not breathing / severe respiratory depression and pinpoint pupils just based on the fear of being exposed. Yes please wear gloves when dealing with these people but if you forget to wear gloves you should be fine. We only administer narcan to someone with those symptoms. Even if someone witnessed a person taking an opioid we will not give narcan unless those symptoms are observed.


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[Jeremy7306]

Just a slight correction, many people are NOT gives fentanyl patches, in fact one major cancer hospital in Houston will not give it unless you are terminal…. FYI

Yes I will agree with that, it is not near as common to see them as it was a decade ago.


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[Artos]

FWIW there is a vid going around SM that a mom picked up a folded dollar bill to put in her kid's piggy bank had fentanyl (after calling LE & testing) inside...just a psa.