Anyone on a Ketogenic Diet?

[TexaRican]

Originally Posted by IkemanTX

I have been bouncing back and forth between 40 and 80. Down 9.4 lbs in 10 days.


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Not sure how the numbers relate. Mine have a chart showing faint pink as trace up through dark purple as heavy. If I have a bourbon or scotch in the evening I will wake up and show trace or light. After work it's always dark purple.
Should be seeing pounds drop but I'm lifting too and am sore. I know I will have a day soon when I pee every 10 minutes and I will be down 10lbs


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[icetrauma]

I finally broke the 270 mark at 268. Still fluctuating around 270. I am leaning out and looking a lot more vascular my jeans that fit on Super Bowl weekend are 2-3 sizes to small.

[icetrauma]

Does anyone else get a good jolt of energy from keto coffee? I use 1 T coconut oil and 1 T Kerry Gold butter. I have used MCT oil, sparingly, it makes the gut go boom at times.

[IkemanTX]

Originally Posted by icetrauma

Does anyone else get a good jolt of energy from keto coffee? I use 1 T coconut oil and 1 T Kerry Gold butter. I have used MCT oil, sparingly, it makes the gut go boom at times.

I've only drank it once. I am a definite not a coffee fan, but it does give you a good kick in the pants. I tried it with hot tea, and it just doesn't cover the taste of the fat as well.


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[bps3040]

Originally Posted by icetrauma

Does anyone else get a good jolt of energy from keto coffee? I use 1 T coconut oil and 1 T Kerry Gold butter. I have used MCT oil, sparingly, it makes the gut go boom at times.

Yep, we add a little heavy cream, vanilla extract, and sometimes peppermint extract also. Yum
We don't use MCT oil because it's in the coconut oil


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[IkemanTX]

Originally Posted by TexaRican

Not sure how the numbers relate. Mine have a chart showing faint pink as trace up through dark purple as heavy. If I have a bourbon or scotch in the evening I will wake up and show trace or light. After work it's always dark purple.
Should be seeing pounds drop but I'm lifting too and am sore. I know I will have a day soon when I pee every 10 minutes and I will be down 10lbs


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On my strips, that's moderate and the lower level of high.


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[icetrauma]

Originally Posted by bps3040

Yep, we add a little heavy cream, vanilla extract, and sometimes peppermint extract also. Yum
We don't use MCT oil because it's in the coconut oil


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I used either or but stick with coconut oil as my main source.

[JonW]

For what it's worth, I've been in nutritional ketosis for 16 consecutive months. Every health marker I know to measure has improved drastically (H-A1C, BGL, HDL, LDL, VLDL, TGL, hsC-rp, BP, TSH, testosterone, body fat) and I'm off six prescription medicines (zero now). Energy is constant, I feel better at 40 than I did at 30 (or 20 for that matter). Worked wonders for arthritis/joint pain, too.

Calories in-calories out was a losing battle for me. The metabolic and hormonal advantages of nutritional ketosis combined with nutrient density from unprocessed foods and intermittent fasting are my normal-why would I go back to what I know doesn't work for me? It's nothing new-my ancestors are this way until the last few decades.

Just my experience. YMMV. But it's worth a shot.


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[IkemanTX]

Well, I haven't weighed in a couple days because I'm at work, but as of Saturday morning I was down 13.4 pounds since I started. It has kind of slowed because I have had some cheats in there. Man, carbs make me feel pretty crappy now. I only ever get hungry when I have gone over on my carbs and come out of ketosis. Aside from those mess ups, I am LOVING the diet. I am technically only about 4 pounds from my goal, but I may lower the goal some. I'm thinking of getting down to 145 and then increasing my calorie intake and hitting the weights to gain some muscle mass. I know that's typically hard on ketosis, but we shall see.
By the way... any "diet" that lets me eat like THIS is a good one in my books...


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[icetrauma]

Congrats on the loss boy's! I'm down to 265 myself. Started around 280 but I had my daily caloric intake set to high. Dropped it by 100 calories and started intermittent fasting and the weight dropped off! Birthday weekend is coming up and I'll have some carbs then. Until then, it's on!

[bps3040]

"Worked wonders for arthritis/joint pain, too. "

Yep, that was definitely a fringe benefit for me. Still maintaining at 197 and feel great


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[horseman]

Been on it now for about 10 weeks or so but I've only really been good about it for about 6 weeks. Working out 4 days a week on my lunch hour, so about 35 min a session. I've dropped right at 30lbs but the best part is, I'm off my my blood pressure medicine. Thats huge for me. Even if there was no other benefit, that would be enough. But my energy is better, and more constant throughout the day, and I just feel better. Looking to get back down to the 205lb range. I was right at 250 and pretty jiggly in January of this year.

[Copedog]

Good thread!!

I've been on a Keto diet since January. I was in pretty good shape already, but I am really trying to make a lifestyle change. I run about 40 miles a month and have not really noticed any performance issues. The first two weeks were tough, but I adapted and have been good since.

It's pretty sad to look around as see the results of the so called "Food Pyramid" thats being pushed on us - obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol. Nothing like doing what the doctor (AMA) and Gov't (FDA) say and then being forced to take 10 different overpriced medicines to be "healthy". Doctors and pharmaceutical companies don't make much money by making you really healthy.

Every person is different, but it doesn't take a PhD to see that what has been recommended for the last 60 years in wrong. Do your research, experiment, and above all do what works for you.

Copedog

[chongo]

Originally Posted by Copedog

Good thread!!

I've been on a Keto diet since January. I was in pretty good shape already, but I am really trying to make a lifestyle change. I run about 40 miles a month and have not really noticed any performance issues. The first two weeks were tough, but I adapted and have been good since.

It's pretty sad to look around as see the results of the so called "Food Pyramid" thats being pushed on us - obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol. Nothing like doing what the doctor (AMA) and Gov't (FDA) say and then being forced to take 10 different overpriced medicines to be "healthy". Doctors and pharmaceutical companies don't make much money by making you really healthy.

Every person is different, but it doesn't take a PhD to see that what has been recommended for the last 60 years in wrong. Do your research, experiment, and above all do what works for you.

Copedog

Amen!


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[justintyme8303]

Originally Posted by panhandlehunter

That's because you're not eating carbs. There's no way this diet is sustainable or healthy. You can't eat all the eggs and bacon, butter and red meat you want and be healthy. Sure, you'll lose weight but that doesn't make it healthy.

My thoughts too b4 i did the research and there are tons of carbs in foods once you start looking for them.

My brother-in-law has been eating this way for over 40 years since b4 Keto was cool.

[justintyme8303]

Funny I thought I was in hog heaven we I found this but I think I'm getting tired of bacon!!

lol never thought I could say that.

[justintyme8303]

Originally Posted by JonW

For what it's worth, I've been in nutritional ketosis for 16 consecutive months. Every health marker I know to measure has improved drastically (H-A1C, BGL, HDL, LDL, VLDL, TGL, hsC-rp, BP, TSH, testosterone, body fat) and I'm off six prescription medicines (zero now). Energy is constant, I feel better at 40 than I did at 30 (or 20 for that matter). Worked wonders for arthritis/joint pain, too.

Calories in-calories out was a losing battle for me. The metabolic and hormonal advantages of nutritional ketosis combined with nutrient density from unprocessed foods and intermittent fasting are my normal-why would I go back to what I know doesn't work for me? It's nothing new-my ancestors are this way until the last few decades.

Just my experience. YMMV. But it's worth a shot.


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Amen I lived 2 years with things like egg whites and low fat diet trying to lower my LDL. Didn't help at all my DR said well you just make too much so here take this pill........


So yes this is worth a shot when i see others doing it going off meds vs on meds. Only numbers that matter to me are internal not the scale.

[IkemanTX]

I had extremely high cholesterol when we checked it about 2 years ago. We dropped every ounce of dietary cholesterol we could out of our diet, got a personal trainer three times a week at the house, and I lost about 20lbs in 6 months.... my cholesterol only went dow from 289 to 283 with ALL THAT. I will be very interested to see my cholesterol after 5-6 months of this diet.


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[icetrauma]

Originally Posted by Copedog

Good thread!!

I've been on a Keto diet since January. I was in pretty good shape already, but I am really trying to make a lifestyle change. I run about 40 miles a month and have not really noticed any performance issues. The first two weeks were tough, but I adapted and have been good since.

It's pretty sad to look around as see the results of the so called "Food Pyramid" thats being pushed on us - obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol. Nothing like doing what the doctor (AMA) and Gov't (FDA) say and then being forced to take 10 different overpriced medicines to be "healthy". Doctors and pharmaceutical companies don't make much money by making you really healthy.

Every person is different, but it doesn't take a PhD to see that what has been recommended for the last 60 years in wrong. Do your research, experiment, and above all do what works for you.

Copedog

Truth, if you want to watch a good independent movie about the Pharm industry, watch Chris Bells production of Prescription Thugs on Netflix.

Originally Posted by justintyme8303

Funny I thought I was in hog heaven we I found this but I think I'm getting tired of bacon!!

lol never thought I could say that.

BLASPHEMY!

Originally Posted by justintyme8303

Amen I lived 2 years with things like egg whites and low fat diet trying to lower my LDL. Didn't help at all my DR said well you just make too much so here take this pill........


So yes this is worth a shot when i see others doing it going off meds vs on meds. Only numbers that matter to me are internal not the scale.

Originally Posted by IkemanTX

I had extremely high cholesterol when we checked it about 2 years ago. We dropped every ounce of dietary cholesterol we could out of our diet, got a personal trainer three times a week at the house, and I lost about 20lbs in 6 months.... my cholesterol only went dow from 289 to 283 with ALL THAT. I will be very interested to see my cholesterol after 5-6 months of this diet.


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Their has been research done lately that says dietary intake of cholesterol has no effect on your actual cholesterol level. But, take it with a grain of salt.

[icetrauma]

Mark Bell is saying he wants to loose 10 lbs in 2 wks with keto. He is a big advocate for the keto diet. Lets see what he got.


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[bearintex]

Originally Posted by justintyme8303

Funny I thought I was in hog heaven we I found this but I think I'm getting tired of bacon!!

lol never thought I could say that.

How do you cook your bacon? Try doing it in the oven and sprinkle it with different spices and whatnot to mix it up every now and then. When we get the urge, I sprinkle Splenda Brown sugar on it. Bacon crack, I tell you.

This cook book is excellent for recipes. The author also runs a Facebook group "Low Carb Journey (Cooking Keto with Kristie)" that you can ask questions and is a wealth of information.

[IkemanTX]

Down to 157.4. My process was faster the first week, but it is still very consistent. That's 15.4 pounds so far, in 3 weeks. Pretty good. And, I'm never hungry! I have noticed that if I ever have hunger feelings, it is typically because I haven't had enough water that day. You really Donne to be vigilant about your water intakez


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[JonW]

I'm really cramming in nutrients, so my calorie count is up. I've averaged almost 70g total carbs/day (net would be lower since it's all from vegetables and nuts) but ketones were still just over 2mm last night. I'm really surprised how easy it it's to stay very comfortably in ketosis after being in it well over a year.


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[IkemanTX]

Ya, after some initial learning about what will and won't effect your ketosis... it is SUPER simple to stick to this diet after the first few weeks. I have had too many cheat days, but I very quickly end up back in ketosis. Most of my "cheats" are vodka with a carb/sugar free mixer so it isn't a Keto buster.


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[SwampRabbit]

Originally Posted by IkemanTX

Down to 157.4. My process was faster the first week, but it is still very consistent. That's 15.4 pounds so far, in 3 weeks. Pretty good. And, I'm never hungry! I have noticed that if I ever have hunger feelings, it is typically because I haven't had enough water that day. You really Donne to be vigilant about your water intakez


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That is really significant. Do you feel you lost at least 12 lbs of fat? You should be looking really lean! Congrats!

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[Voodoo]

Lifestyle not diet

Rule number one

Never take fitness tips from anyone under age 55, youth is wasted on the young.

[IkemanTX]

Originally Posted by SwampRabbit

That is really significant. Do you feel you lost at least 12 lbs of fat? You should be looking really lean! Congrats!

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I think about half of it was water weight. You shed a lot of water when you drop your glycogen stores, since they are bound with water. My love handles are almost imperceivable at this point. I still have a very small layer around the front of my belly, the last little bit of love handles, and a little in my chest. I think I have pretty much determined I will continue the calorie deficit until I hit 146, then I will increase to a mild surplus and hit the weights some and try to gain some in muscle.


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[Azzy]

This was the best diet I was ever on. I did it for 2 years while in College. Would lose body fat and gain about 2-4 lbs in muscle mass a month. If i ever commit to lifting again, id get back on it.

[Azzy]

I actually have an excel sheet that will keep all your % in touch.

[IkemanTX]

"Fathead Pizza" for dinner.
The crust is made from almond flower and mozzarella.



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[bps3040]

Originally Posted by IkemanTX

"Fathead Pizza" for dinner.
The crust is made from almond flower and mozzarella.



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Good stuff!


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[IkemanTX]

Well, we fell of the bandwagon for a week and a half or two. My wife was sick with the flu/sinus infection and I was out of state for most of it for work. (Man, it sure is hard to eat Keto on the road)

I have felt like absolute crap being back on carbs. I get hungry throughout the day, which I am no longer used to. And, I fell right back into the blood sugar crashes I struggled with before Keto. Luckily, I only gained 2.8 lbs back over that time period.

We start back on Keto Monday morning. (Though, technically it already is Monday morning). I can't wait to get back on it. My body just works better in ketosis.



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[icetrauma]

Life happens IkemanTX. I threw in the towel for Mothers Day weekend. Back on the bike today. Carbs taste good but my body doesn't like them either.

[BigThicketBoy]

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[IDFWU]

I'm doing it. Started in Jan. Down about 30 pounds so far but I had a few mishaps along the way. Not cheat days, I just wasn't paying enough attention to my macros.

Another thing that has really helped me is adding "intermittent fasting" to the mix. You can youtube it. if you come out of Keto it is a GREAT way to get back in, in a short period of time. Basically the technique I chose is the 16-8. I do not consume ANY calories whatsoever (even my meds) between the hours of 6pm and 10am. I eat my keto meals ONLY during the 8 hour window between 10am and 6pm.

[justletmein]

^yeah IF is a great combo with keto

[BigThicketBoy]

I watched some of the videos and if I ate like that I would starve.
What are you real folks eating?
I work construction so I'm kinda limited what I can eat at lunch and I usually can't eat again until 7pm.
I only need to drop 20- 25 lbs.

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[Roy Munson]

Originally Posted by BigThicketBoy

I watched some of the videos and if I ate like that I would starve.
What are you real folks eating?
I work construction so I'm kinda limited what I can eat at lunch and I usually can't eat again until 7pm.
I only need to drop 20- 25 lbs.

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No you won't. My calorie intake is lower eating this way. You will crave carbs for about 3 days. Then it stops. Breakfast is usually black coffee with a tablespoon of butter and coconut oil blended in and maybe an egg of some sort.

For lunch I eat a salad, burgers with no bun, sandwich with no bread or tacos and ditch the tortillas. I cook for a family of 5 every night. I use ground venison for tacos, goulash, burgers and anything else it would be appropriate. Anything on the smoker or grill is fine. We eat a **** ton of broccoli, cauliflower and squash. I needed to lose 20 lbs. as well. I did it in a month and a half.

Its easier if you have someone helping you, spouse etc. I get that your on site and its more difficult but Whataburger will make a burger without the bun.

I have always hated the feeling of being full to the point where it was so uncomfortable that I would leave a lot of food on my plate. But I love foods that make you feel that way. Mexican food, pasta, chinese, sushi, Pho, pizza, burgers, anything heavy in carbs. I don't feel that way anymore, ever.

Carbs slow me down. Maybe its just genetic and I am not of a people who can tolerate a lot of carbs.

[icetrauma]

Originally Posted by BigThicketBoy

I watched some of the videos and if I ate like that I would starve.
What are you real folks eating?
I work construction so I'm kinda limited what I can eat at lunch and I usually can't eat again until 7pm.
I only need to drop 20- 25 lbs.

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Typical day for me is

1/2 link venison sausage
1 avocado

Macadamia nuts
2 cheese sticks

Grilled chicken salad with blue cheese dressing

1 avocado
4 sugar free jello

1/2 link venison sausage or 3-5 eggs depending on available calories left

Plus, 4 tsp heavy cream in 2 cups of coffee.

That is a typical daily eats for me

Comes up to roughly 2550 calories


Edit....I also work nights as well.

[icetrauma]

Once you get fat adapted, you will be surprised at how long you will without feeling hungry. Some days I have to force myself to eat to meet daily intake needs.

[Roy Munson]

Originally Posted by icetrauma

Once you get fat adapted, you will be surprised at how long you will without feeling hungry. Some days I have to force myself to eat to meet daily intake needs.

So true. I drink that coffee the morning and am never hungry at lunch. If I have a few bites at dinner and walk away, I won't go back and finish.

[justletmein]

Originally Posted by BigThicketBoy

I watched some of the videos and if I ate like that I would starve.
What are you real folks eating?
I work construction so I'm kinda limited what I can eat at lunch and I usually can't eat again until 7pm.
I only need to drop 20- 25 lbs.

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I eat constantly, about 3500 calories per day right now... so much so I have a reputation at work. What videos did you watch?

[krtnorris]

Lose it app is doing it for me! 10 lbs lost in two weeks.

[justletmein]

Breakfast if I'm in a hurry is 50 grams whey protein shake with 1/4 cup heavy cream, if I have time I'll scramble 6 whole eggs and two slices bacon and throw a little cheese in there but not too much (gotta watch the dairy). From there on I wing the rest of the day, it's going to be 8oz chicken breast + 1/3 cup almonds, or 1/2 lb moist brisket + as much broccoli as I can stand before I want to puke (which ain't much), or 12 dry rub chicken wings w/blue cheese (careful with the dip most have way too many carbs) + celery. If I can get 6 meals in per day I will, otherwise it's 5 unless I overate at a previous meal then it's impossible for me to eat them all just don't have enough room. If the wife cooks then I end up having all sorts of concoctions but I tend to treat them as "fat sources" and add some chicken breast and greens to them.

*I am not losing weight right now, but I don't eat too terribly much less when I want to shed the lbs, about 750 calories fewer (roughly 1 meal depending) per day and I actually only eat foods I can track (ie not the wife's stuff).

[IkemanTX]

Originally Posted by BigThicketBoy

I watched some of the videos and if I ate like that I would starve.
What are you real folks eating?
I work construction so I'm kinda limited what I can eat at lunch and I usually can't eat again until 7pm.
I only need to drop 20- 25 lbs.

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It doesn't make sense until you are on it... When you aren't in ketosis, much of your "hunger" is simply a drop in blood sugar. It isn't because you don't have enough energy, simply your body addicted to glucose.

When in Keto, I don't ever really get "hungry" at all. Your body kicks the glucose habit, and switches to a MUCH more stable energy source... fat. You don't get the energy drops between meals, and often times I have no problem going without eating for 8 or 9 hours.

I know it sounds ridiculous, but it was what I experienced.


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[IkemanTX]

Originally Posted by BigThicketBoy

I watched some of the videos and if I ate like that I would starve.
What are you real folks eating?
I work construction so I'm kinda limited what I can eat at lunch and I usually can't eat again until 7pm.
I only need to drop 20- 25 lbs.

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Also, as far as food at work...
I pack 3 days worth of food (breakfast, lunch, and dinner) in an insulated bag for work. No fridge, no microwave.
I use a hot plate in an insulated bag called "Hot Logic"

If you have access to a 110 outlet, you have a warm meal. You can heat up food in just about any container. Grab yourself a small cooler, an ice pack, and you are set. Home cooked food is better anyways!


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[IDFWU]

Originally Posted by BigThicketBoy

I watched some of the videos and if I ate like that I would starve.
What are you real folks eating?
I work construction so I'm kinda limited what I can eat at lunch and I usually can't eat again until 7pm.
I only need to drop 20- 25 lbs.

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Assuming you are talking about some of the Intermediate Fasting videos....you won't starve.
The first 2 or 3 days of intermediate fasting...yes you will get hungry, but after you adapt to it, it will be noon and you won't even have realized it. The hardest part for me is not having my morning cup of coffee. But after a week no coffee in the morning i'm used to it.

As far as the hours, you can do them however you want. So long as it is a 16 hour period of no eating. You can change it to only eat from noon (lunch) to 8 (supper)....basically you are only skipping breakfast & morning coffee. Or if you MUST have morning coffee & breakfast then only eat from 6-2 or 7-3.
Also, you don't have to do it every week. I started out doing it every other week. I saw results, and i have a goal weight to reach by a certain date so now i'm doing intermediate fasting 2 weeks on 1 week off.

Also, if you are doing Keto, there are TONS of online video recipes. I literally mean thousands. You have as many choices on keto as you do not doing keto as most things can be substituted (riced cauliflower & cheese vs. mashed potatoes & cheese)

[Roy Munson]

Anyone have a recipe for a pizza dough other than fathead dough? I don't know why, but I don't like it at all. Like it makes me want to puke. Any flour besides almond that have worked?

[justletmein]

Originally Posted by IDFWU

Assuming you are talking about some of the Intermediate Fasting videos....you won't starve.
The first 2 or 3 days of intermediate fasting...yes you will get hungry, but after you adapt to it, it will be noon and you won't even have realized it. The hardest part for me is not having my morning cup of coffee. But after a week no coffee in the morning i'm used to it.

As far as the hours, you can do them however you want. So long as it is a 16 hour period of no eating. You can change it to only eat from noon (lunch) to 8 (supper)....basically you are only skipping breakfast & morning coffee. Or if you MUST have morning coffee & breakfast then only eat from 6-2 or 7-3.
Also, you don't have to do it every week. I started out doing it every other week. I saw results, and i have a goal weight to reach by a certain date so now i'm doing intermediate fasting 2 weeks on 1 week off.

Also, if you are doing Keto, there are TONS of online video recipes. I literally mean thousands. You have as many choices on keto as you do not doing keto as most things can be substituted (riced cauliflower & cheese vs. mashed potatoes & cheese)

When you're doing IF do you get crazy excited energy rush all the way up to the 1st meal? Seems like my system goes into overdrive until I eat.