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Old 12-03-2019, 11:36 PM   #1
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Default Help with guitar value - 1969 Fender

Need some help determining value and suggestions of where/how to sell this.

Background - my step dad passed away in February after a long battle with cancer. My mom has been going through his things and came across their guitar. My brother in law and I have inherited all of the "man" stuff we want and all the remainder my mom is selling to save for a rainy day. Neither of us have interest in this guitar and we have everything we want that holds any sentimental value - never even knew he had the thing but knew he played in the 70s.

Have been told by a friend of a friend (who is a guitar tech for a legendary rocker who's currently touring) that based on the S/N it appears to be a 1969 Fender Stratocaster in Tobacco Sunburst. Guitar looks to be all original and has original Fender hard case.

I've seen them listed online from 1500-11500. That's a huge range. Don't want to just walk into a Guitar Center or Pawn shop and get taken advantage of.

I'll upload some pics below. If anyone has any insight I'd greatly appreciate it.

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Old 12-04-2019, 06:12 AM   #2
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You can expect to fetch around 350
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:15 AM   #3
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Doesnít appear to be an American model so that $350 number about is probably pretty close to the upper end of itís value.


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Get on a Fender guitar forum and I'm sure someone will help you out.
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Had one like it in white back in the 70's. Good luck to y'all.
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I believe there is a shop in Nashville that you can get with online to get an idea. Think I've read about them in some threads on here. Maybe in a thread about olde Martin guitars. Might have head Martin in the thread title.
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USA made is where the value is in guitars
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At first glance, I immediately thought Mexican due to the size of the headstock. Also 21 fret rather than the 22 found on a MIA Fender. A better look at pickups and neck shape would be indicators too.

I'm no guitar tech. I VERY recently started looking into buying my first electric and have sights on an American Std. Someone more knowledgeable could easily differentiate between MIM and MIA by taking a look at it.

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You have an emmaculate Fender Strat, American made in 1969, with the original case? The only way it gets better is if you have a Fender Amp to go with it.
I don't know where some of these guys are getting there info, but what you have is an invaluable collectible. DO NOT! go to the Pawn shop. Get in touch with some one that collects guitars.
Im would say a minimum of 5k, it is not a MIM, that didn't start till 1987. No body makes these guitars other than Fender. You have a very valuable guitar. My advice, KEEP IT!

Not that yall will know who it is, but Buddy Holly played the exact Strat! Well almost exact.

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Please post info once you have it appraised by a professional.
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You have an emmaculate Fender Strat, American made in 1969, with the original case?
That's what we are trying to determine. IF it is, then yes. Valuable. We all agree that American from 1969 is valuable.

What features are you seeing that say "American?" The missing fret is a pretty good indicator that it is not. Same with the head shape and pickup screws (6 rather than 2). Or so i thought?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...ature=emb_logo

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Old 12-04-2019, 09:46 AM   #12
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Had one exactly like it back in HS, but was a 70...sure wish I still had it.

I'm betting that one will likely be worth $5k plus?? Might want to look up some sold auctions on eBay to see if you can find one similar. Always a good starting point, but my guess is you have a real valuable axe that will continue to increase in value similar to how all collectables work. All about how original, has it modified, refinished & condition.

Good luck & thanks for sharing...sold mine for $600 way back in the early 90's. Stupid!!
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That's what we are trying to determine. IF it is, then yes. Valuable. We all agree that American from 1969 is valuable.

Everything that I see (in my limited knowledge) indicates mexican, though.
-21 frets vs 22 found on American
-6 (or 5point) screws on pickup rather than 2 on American
-larger headstock.

Exposing the pickups (under pickguard) would also reveal a lot. Mexicans have Humbucker, single coil, single coil whereas the American has Humbucker, single coil, humbucker.

Also from what I've read, there is some confusion regarding the serial numbers. See above link "age my fender"

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Dude MIM didn't start till 1987! Fender didn't start making some Strats in Mexico till 1987, that guitar predates that by 2 decades. If it was made in Mexico, it would say it on the head, I have one, they are all stamped that way. Fender require it.

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Old 12-04-2019, 09:51 AM   #14
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Had one exactly like it back in HS, but was a 70...sure wish I still had it.

I'm betting that one will likely be worth $5k plus?? Might want to look up some sold auctions on eBay to see if you can find one similar. Always a good starting point, but my guess is you have a real valuable axe that will continue to increase in value similar to how all collectables work. All about how original, has it modified, refinished & condition.

Good luck & thanks for sharing...sold mine for $600 way back in the early 90's. Stupid!!
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Wow.
Have you looked on Reverb for comps?

https://reverb.com/item/13234969-fen...-1969-sunburst

$10,000 is a nice round number and probably not inappropriate.
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Made in Fullerton 1969 or early 70. Nice closet find.

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According to the serial number it is a 1970. Fret and screw counts are irrelevant. It will still be worth a mint!
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:00 AM   #18
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Wow.
Have you looked on Reverb for comps?

https://reverb.com/item/13234969-fen...-1969-sunburst

$10,000 is a nice round number and probably not inappropriate.
Good luck!
With the case, it is probably more. 10k is a start.
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:08 AM   #19
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Holy crap! That is a gem! And in fabulous condition!
I couldn't determine between 1969 or 1970.

A 50 yr old strat, in condition, all knobs present and still legible, tone switch, with original case, dang I bet even the original tremelo bar is in the case - I'd never let it go. I'd love to bend some blues on that thing.

It is not made in Mexico. Way more than $350.

The range in price your seeing shopping around is likely due to different conditions of different guitars of the same era. If it plays, then expect top dollar. Proceed with high expectations.

Check this site and then check with some experts on value, not someone looking to buy.
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Needs a whoopee bar.




And I’m in for the original appraisal price of $350. Cash in hand!

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Old 12-04-2019, 10:10 AM   #21
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Without seeing it in person and also pulling the neck off and pickups to look in the cavities that absolutely looks like a legit vintage 1970 strat. You have a real piece right there. Congrats. Also the American made strats didn’t start having 22 frets til sometime in the 80s.
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According to the serial number it is a 1970. Fret and screw counts are irrelevant. It will still be worth a mint!
I missed the part in the OP where he said Dad was playing it in the 70s. Agree fret count and pickup screws arent indicators until later. My bad. Learned something this morning.
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I missed the part in the OP where he said Dad was playing it in the 70s. Agree fret count and pickup screws arent indicators until later. My bad. Learned something this morning.
Fret count is irrelevant. Fender made Strats with 21, 22 and 24 frets. If you want to get picky, the 21 fret guitars are Vintage, which increases the value of the guitar. Most Strats are made with 21....I think.

I would love to know if his father bought it new or used. That guitar is the same model that SRV and Buddy Holly used....off by one year. Just a little history. The reason the '69 is so popular is due to Hendrix supposedly playing a '69 at Woodstock, he actually played a '67, but that era guitar came with the same pickups. Thus the reason behind the pop of the '69.

I may be wrong about SRV...gotta check on that. I think it was a 69 though.
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SRV #1 had a 63 that he thought was a 59 cause of some writings on the pickups or in the body I believe. Think the body was stamped as a 63 and the neck a 62 or it may have been the opposite. Either way the op has a hell of a guitar.
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Needs a whoopee bar.
My buddy broke mine off inside at the threading by over tightening it...who muscles the bar that tight??
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SRV #1 had a 63 that he thought was a 59 cause of some writings on the pickups or in the body I believe. Think the body was stamped as a 63 and the neck a 62 or it may have been the opposite. Either way the op has a hell of a guitar.
Yep, I rethought that, I remembered something about a '59 or '57, anyhow, an original Strat of any year is a gem.
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Without seeing it in person and also pulling the neck off and pickups to look in the cavities that absolutely looks like a legit vintage 1970 strat. You have a real piece right there. Congrats. Also the American made strats didnít start having 22 frets til sometime in the 80s.
Big C, if you look at the pic with the neck screws, it doesn't look like they have ever been off. Can you imagine the original pickups on an original guitar? Oh my.
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And I’m in for the original appraisal price of $350. Cash in hand!
Sorry dude, you WILL be out bid on that sweet thang. I will drive to Catsprings, where ever that is and pick it up face to face.
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I'm a Fender collector. That guitar looks legit! I'm currently rebuilding a '72 that should sell for 5-10K. If you were closer, I'd take a look at it and verify the age and give you an estimate, but from the pics posted here, you've got quite a fine piece of craftsmanship!

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Big C, if you look at the pic with the neck screws, it doesn't look like they have ever been off. Can you imagine the original pickups on an original guitar? Oh my.
And those pickups would have decayed enough and are probably very warm sounding. That thing is mint looking.
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Listen to lovemylegacy. That is NOT a $350 Mexican Strat. Serial number indicates '69 or '70. Definitely not a cheap guitar.
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If I could play guitar as much as I love guitars, I would be awesome! But I cant play a lick....at all. So Im not awesome, well except to my Sweetie.

rtarcher and Shane are way more knowledgeable than I am. I just wanted the guy getting the value of his guitar. Sorry if I got bent. Man these guitars don't come up for sale that often. I mean you can buy a Squire for $350.

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Gorgeous guitar and a great find! I wish I had relatives like that haha!
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Hey my friend if you sell that guitar for 350 your getting screwed. Guitar Center and Pawn shops screw people. Go to a real music store, you have a gem there. I have been playing guitar since the 80's. Guitar Center sells bottom of the barrel trash for $350. Thats going by the value of the instrument itself, not the sentimental attachment.
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That needs to go to a vintage shop to be appraised. I’ve got an old jag that I had appraised in Austin few years back. There’s a guy here in Bastrop that’s an old fender guru I’ll try to contact him and send pics
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Just some pics of me through the years and a sample of my collection, just so you know where I'm coming from. I would love to see that guitar in person!

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Fender Telecaster, Fender BigHead Bass, ugliest bass in the world...according to John Paul Jones, 4 Strats in a row, one looks like it has a shortened neck, Fender Accoustic, a couple of Ovations, one is a 12 strang, last one looks like a Martin....how did I do?
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That is a nice collection. Think that last acoustic is a Taylor.
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Also is that a gilmour strat? The sixth one over in the pic?
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That is a nice collection. Think that last acoustic is a Taylor.
The "short" strat is actually a strat mini, for my son. The last is a Taylor. The black & white strats are squiers I modified with noiseless pickups and vintage pots as they have a great action and play like a dream. The rest of my guitars are stashed away. The oly white (cream colored now) is my '72, and the all black is my '76. That '69 from OP would certainly be at home here, if I could afford it!

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You're correct, many variables can have a significant impact on value. I'd get that thing insured ASAP.
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The "short" strat is actually a strat mini, for my son. The last is a Taylor. The black & white strats are squiers I modified with noiseless pickups and vintage pots as they have a great action and play like a dream. The rest of my guitars are stashed away. The oly white (cream colored now) is my '72, and the all black is my '76. That '69 from OP would certainly be at home here, if I could afford it!

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Todd, sounds like you know what you are doing. You and the OP may be able to dance over that Strat.

Lot of folks turn their nose up at Squires, but Squires and the Jaguar both are sweet sounding, especially if you up grade them like you have.
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I swear that last pic made me smell stale beer, weed and cheetos. My dorm looked just like that
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Amazing guitar. I would keep it but understand reasons not to. It deserve to be sold to a collector who values the instrument. Good luck.
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I found these to be very different, one from Fender and the other from Reverb.
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I found these to be very different, one from Fender and the other from Reverb.
Itís definitely a 70. I think that was the last year they used the 4 bolt pattern on the neck after cbs took over.



https://reverb.com/price-guide/guide...-1970-sunburst

That link is to give you an idea of what you have. As some others have stated previously. You need to have it evaluated by a legit vintage guitar dealer to get an accurate account of what itís worth.
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