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Old 08-21-2019, 05:37 PM   #101
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That is correct. It's 150 yards on each side of the trails. Just taking the buffer around the 75 miles of muti-use trails x 300 yds., it works out that more than 40% of the 20,000 acres is off limits to hunting. That doesn't include the recreation areas, hiking trail, Unit 47, roads and boundaries.

The horseback riders are lobbying the FS to expand the trail system.
Because 75 miles isnít enough when you think you own the place.
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:51 PM   #102
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Thanks. I wish onx had the ability to mark a distance from trails and boundaries.
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:58 PM   #104
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Thanks. I wish onx had the ability to mark a distance from trails and boundaries.


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I've used that to place markers at a distance but I wish you could enter a distance and have the program draw the hunting boarder.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:46 AM   #106
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Because 75 miles isnít enough when you think you own the place.
I was speaking with a representative of the USFS last year, nice older guy, I think he was a volunteer. He wasn't very fond of the horse-rider crowd. I can't recall the exact conversation but we were discussing firearm use in the Tadra area.
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Old 08-22-2019, 12:41 PM   #107
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I was speaking with a representative of the USFS last year, nice older guy, I think he was a volunteer. He wasn't very fond of the horse-rider crowd. I can't recall the exact conversation but we were discussing firearm use in the Tadra area.
The majority of the horse crowd has been great to deal with over the years. Unfortunately, there is a very loud vocal minority that is not the greatest to deal with. They tend to forget that the Grasslands are meant to be a multiple use property and not just horse trails. They feel they should take priority over everything else. Like I said though, the majority of the riders I have dealt with in the field have been great. I’ve even had a few give info on where they have been seeing game.
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Old 08-24-2019, 10:12 AM   #108
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If you shoot a deer and it runs onto private, what's the appropriate next step? How would you contact the land owner?
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If you shoot a deer and it runs onto private, what's the appropriate next step? How would you contact the land owner?
I would call the game warden. They can help gain access for retrieval. Some of the landowners are to fond of us public land hunters. I have had both good and bad experiences with landowners out there.
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Couldnt find the body. Legend has it the Headless Buck of the Grasslands roams the land seeking vengeance. Be careful out there y'all.
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I will be out this year, it will be the first year i go out there. ill be in a ground blind hope i can thump one!
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Couldnt find the body. Legend has it the Headless Buck of the Grasslands roams the land seeking vengeance. Be careful out there y'all.

Yep. I saw him last year. It was a cloudy, dark evening and I was walking back to my truck. I heard something moving through the trees on an intersecting trail. It seemed to float along with just a silent brush up against leaves. There was no footfall. It came to the intersection before me and turned as if it was looking at me. There were no eyes, no face but it seemed to know I was there. I stood stock still and didn't breathe. It's hooves were like metal razors and they sparked when he pawed the ground. It seemed to be searching for me but it couldn't smell, see or hear me. Then I heard the most ferocious snort I have ever heard. Really, I didn't actually hear it as much as felt deep in my soul. It started toward me and for some reason I felt like I was captured and couldn't move. It went by me like it wasn't sure where I was and my fingers brushed its sides. The hair was like sandpaper and was full of burrs. It past me and stopped. Something startled it and drifted off away from me. I stood motionless for a good three to four minutes before I finally continued on my way. I got to my truck and there were prints looking the same as the creature made right next to my truck. I know it's sill out there, tracking, looking.

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Yep. I saw him last year. It was a cloudy, dark evening and I was walking back to my truck. I heard something moving through the trees on an intersecting trail. It seemed to float along with just a silent brush up against leaves. There was no footfall. It came to the intersection before me and turned as if it was looking at me. There were no eyes, no face but it seemed to know I was there. I stood stock still and didn't breathe. It's hooves were like metal razors and they sparked when he pawed the ground. It seemed to be searching for me but it couldn't smell, see or hear me. Then I heard the most ferocious snort I have ever heard. Really, I didn't actually hear it as much as felt deep in my soul. It started toward me and for some reason I felt like I was captured and couldn't move. It went by me like it wasn't sure where I was and my fingers brushed its sides. The hair was like sandpaper and was full of burrs. It past me and stopped. Something startled it and drifted off away from me. I stood motionless for a good three to four minutes before I finally continued on my way. I got to my truck and there were prints looking the same as the creature made right next to my truck. I know it's sill out there, tracking, looking.

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Old 08-28-2019, 04:20 AM   #115
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:57 PM   #116
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and just to clarify one more time, I don't need a annual public hunting permit? just a hunting license?
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:16 PM   #117
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For the LBJ at Decauter- no APH is required, regular HL and follow the rules.
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:11 AM   #118
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and just to clarify one more time, I don't need a annual public hunting permit? just a hunting license?
At the LBJ Grasslands all you need is your hunting license and hunters education if you are required by the state. You also still need proper endorsements for archery, upland game birds, and migratory birds as well as the federal duck stamp if you are planning to take part in those activities. I would also recommend checking out the USFS website and office in Decatur to get additional info specific to the Grasslands. There are plate of small rules that are not standard to all places.
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Old 08-30-2019, 10:56 AM   #119
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At the LBJ Grasslands all you need is your hunting license and hunters education if you are required by the state. You also still need proper endorsements for archery, upland game birds, and migratory birds as well as the federal duck stamp if you are planning to take part in those activities. I would also recommend checking out the USFS website and office in Decatur to get additional info specific to the Grasslands. There are plate of small rules that are not standard to all places.
thanks buddy! looking forward for my first year hunting public, do any of you leave your tree stands or ground blinds up or a particular spot during the season for a certain amount of time? I plan on spot and stalking a lot but wouldn't mind brining a tree stand at times
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Old 08-30-2019, 11:34 AM   #120
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thanks buddy! looking forward for my first year hunting public, do any of you leave your tree stands or ground blinds up or a particular spot during the season for a certain amount of time? I plan on spot and stalking a lot but wouldn't mind brining a tree stand at times
tree stands and blinds need to be moved every 72 hours good luck on the hunt
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thanks buddy! looking forward for my first year hunting public, do any of you leave your tree stands or ground blinds up or a particular spot during the season for a certain amount of time? I plan on spot and stalking a lot but wouldn't mind brining a tree stand at times
Depending on where you are, spot and stalk can be problematic. If it is crowded you invariable walk into someones setup.

I take a lock on or a blind in and pack it out at the end of the day. If you do leave one, put your name, address and number on it as well as the date you placed it. Move within 72 hours and change the date.

It's just easier for me to set the stand each time I go. Plus, it doesn't telegraph "someone thinks this is a good place to hunt".

I've not had good luck hunting from a blind. It takes too long to get them brushed in each day. But a natural blind may work.

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Old 08-30-2019, 02:05 PM   #122
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Depending on where you are, spot and stalk can be problematic. If it is crowded you invariable walk into someones setup.



I take a lock on or a blind in and pack it out at the end of the day. If you do leave one, put your name, address and number on it as well as the date you placed it. Move within 72 hours and change the date.



It's just easier for me to set the stand each time I go. Plus, it doesn't telegraph "someone thinks this is a good place to hunt".



I've not had good luck hunting from a blind. It takes too long to get them brushed in each day. But a natural blind may work.



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I agree with this. It's public land so do as you wish but walking around you will run into others and potentially upset them and in my experience it only reduces your chances at getting something on the ground. I'm usually in a hang on but trying out a saddle this year. Good luck out there.

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Old 08-30-2019, 05:03 PM   #123
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thanks buddy! looking forward for my first year hunting public, do any of you leave your tree stands or ground blinds up or a particular spot during the season for a certain amount of time? I plan on spot and stalking a lot but wouldn't mind brining a tree stand at times
Spot and stalk can be problematic for both you and others. With most of the Grasslands broken up into smaller units it doesnít provide much area to walk. Also it gets fairly crowded out here. If you plan on walking a significant amount you will undoubtedly run across others setups. All stands and blinds are required to be moved every 72 hours. I have had the best luck with hang on stands and climbing stands. Slowly acquiring everything needed to saddle hunt. I will probably give that a try next season but seems like a great way to go. Pop up blinds have never worked well for me. Regardless of how much you brush them in they donít tend to look very natural and have always spooked deer in my experience. I have had much better success with natural ground blinds. You donít need nearly as much cover as a lot of people seem to think. Just enough to break up your outline. I used a natural ground blind that I built in about 5 minutes to kill my buck last season on an spot I had never hunted before.
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Old 08-30-2019, 10:06 PM   #124
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Has anyone heard if they're burning this year?
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Old 08-31-2019, 07:25 AM   #126
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They burn every year. They will publish a list of the units they plan to burn. You can check with the district office and request the list.
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They burn every year. They will publish a list of the units they plan to burn. You can check with the district office and request the list.
Thanks. I'll check as we get closer to October.

Good luck to all harassing dove this morning, allergies kept me up all night but I'm still going. Fortunately the youngest has his license so I can sleep on the way, maybe.
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Old 09-01-2019, 02:59 PM   #128
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How come LBJ does not come up on TPWD public hunting maps like Caddo does?
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How come LBJ does not come up on TPWD public hunting maps like Caddo does?
Caddo is managed by TPWD but owned by the NFS. LBJ is managed by the NFS.
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:19 PM   #130
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No birds for us this morning. Lots of shooting,just at the other end of the field.

We'll attack again at dawn.
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Old 09-03-2019, 07:29 AM   #131
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How come LBJ does not come up on TPWD public hunting maps like Caddo does?
The U. S. Forest Service owns and manages both the Caddo and LBJ N.G. The Caddo N.G. is a WMA. The hunting regulations are managed by TP&W.

LBJ maps are available at the Caddo/LBJ District Office in Decatur.

Here's a map that will be helpful.

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The U. S. Forest Service owns and manages both the Caddo and LBJ N.G. The Caddo N.G. is a WMA. The hunting regulations are managed by TP&W.



LBJ maps are available at the Caddo/LBJ District Office in Decatur.



Here's a map that will be helpful.



https://www.arcgis.com/apps/Viewer/i...bb9e3061056af2


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Old 09-06-2019, 05:57 PM   #134
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I think he was only passing through but nice to have a goal.
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The U. S. Forest Service owns and manages both the Caddo and LBJ N.G. The Caddo N.G. is a WMA. The hunting regulations are managed by TP&W.



LBJ maps are available at the Caddo/LBJ District Office in Decatur.



Here's a map that will be helpful.



https://www.arcgis.com/apps/Viewer/i...bb9e3061056af2


The layers for you prime hunting honey holes failed to show up. Can you please correct or you can just PM me the file.
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The layers for you prime hunting honey holes failed to show up. Can you please correct or you can just PM me the file.
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There are no honey holes on LBJ. There are no deer on LBJ. It's one giant Superfund sight. Better stay away or you'll end up glowing in the dark.
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There are no honey holes on LBJ. There are no deer on LBJ. It's one giant Superfund sight. Better stay away or you'll end up glowing in the dark.


Youíre right, every time I go all I get is a bad case of chiggers and ticks. Parking areas are full of nails and mosquitoes are the size of small bats.


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I did see one squirrle out there one time. Just one time. About 28 years ago. Or was it 32 years ago? (smh)
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I remember that squirrel, he ate those red oak acorns off that one tree and grew an extra head. That was one mean squirrel. I remember we were out there one day testing for radioactive waste and he was barking at us...well, one head was barking at us and the other was chattering at its twin head constantly. We figured he grew an extra female head. No wonder he was in such a bad mood. Wonder whaterver happened to him? Word has it some hunter shot him with two barrels of no. 6. He got mad and bit the guy right there in the nethers. Guy grew an extra... well, it's a G rated forum so let's just say he grew a backup.
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Did it look like this one?







That was the scaryest day of my life when I had to face it down!
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At least now I know I can forgo the three extra jock straps. Glad you memorialized that 'ol boy...er..girl..whaaa?
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Old 09-07-2019, 05:46 PM   #143
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I'll be out scouting (section off CR2866 and another off CR1111) next Wednesday if anyone is around. I'll stop by and chat with the office in Decatur since I've never hunted on PHL. Hopefully between LBJ and Pat Mayse WMA i'll get something.
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I scouted yesterday afternoon and it was hot, spiders were everywhere, and the grass was tall. I'm not sure I would consider it a success, because I didn't find a lot of signs of deer. I covered over 4 miles in two different sections and found very few tracks. I finally set up a camera when I came across an area that had several piles of deer poop. It didn't look fresh, but it was the most I had seen all day, and I actually ended up spooking a bedded doe not far from where I set up the camera. I also came across an abandoned Ameristep pop up blind that I'm sure was inhabited by snakes. I still have some other sections to scout and after covering so much ground and trails that when I come across an active area I will recognize it.
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I need to get out there and put some cameras back up. I'm waiting for the weather to break first.
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Old 09-10-2019, 02:28 PM   #146
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I need to get out there and put some cameras back up. I'm waiting for the weather to break first.
Waiting for the weather to cool a bit before going out to check mine.
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Old 09-10-2019, 03:20 PM   #147
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I scouted yesterday afternoon and it was hot, spiders were everywhere, and the grass was tall. I'm not sure I would consider it a success, because I didn't find a lot of signs of deer. I covered over 4 miles in two different sections and found very few tracks. I finally set up a camera when I came across an area that had several piles of deer poop. It didn't look fresh, but it was the most I had seen all day, and I actually ended up spooking a bedded doe not far from where I set up the camera. I also came across an abandoned Ameristep pop up blind that I'm sure was inhabited by snakes. I still have some other sections to scout and after covering so much ground and trails that when I come across an active area I will recognize it.


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I went out this past weekend and scouted. More spiders than I have ever seen in one place. I recommend carrying a spider stick lol. Did see quite a bit of deer sign and what looked like a whole bunch of hog sign. Had one deer blow at me on my way out of the first unit I looked at.

Saw some sign of hunters and a few trucks parked at some other units I was going to look at. Had to be dove hunters though. I'm guessing the dove hunting traffic will die down a bit when bow season starts. Anyone that can confirm/deny from past experience?
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:20 AM   #150
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Yea I haven't run into many dove hunters come deer season. And I also highly recommend the spider stick as. I'm an outdoors guy but absolutely hate spiders, spider webs, bugs and snakes of all kinds.
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