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Old 07-19-2019, 03:32 PM   #1
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Default New 6CM finished up!

I just threw something together to bump around the pasture and annoy coyotes and pigs with this year..........it might hurt a deer's feelings too. We'll see





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Old 07-19-2019, 03:33 PM   #2
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Looks awesome for thrown together.
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Old 07-19-2019, 03:40 PM   #3
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Love it, nice work as always Robert!
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Old 07-19-2019, 03:42 PM   #4
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Ahhh, yeah just and old throw together, beat around gun.... Very nice brother!!
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Old 07-19-2019, 03:50 PM   #5
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Very nice
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Old 07-19-2019, 03:51 PM   #6
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The benefits of owning a gun shop are very nice.

Looks like a killer for sure.

What bullet you planning to run in it? I was fond of the 105 bergers in my 240.

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Old 07-19-2019, 05:50 PM   #7
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God that is sweet and making me really want to sell some things to start a new build.


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Old 07-19-2019, 06:06 PM   #8
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Ahhh, yeah just and old throw together, beat around gun.... Very nice brother!!
Haha! It really was Test barrel, prototype bottom metal, old stock, action had some DLC imperfections......even the scope was a re-cycled Nikon, haha. Glass aside, it did turn out to be a pretty nice "parts gun"
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:09 PM   #9
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The benefits of owning a gun shop are very nice.

Looks like a killer for sure.

What bullet you planning to run in it? I was fond of the 105 bergers in my 240.

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Same. The 105's will be first up to bat. If I'm really lucky, it'll like the Federal factory loaded version of that bullet. I hear good things......
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:17 PM   #10
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Since its just a throw together beat around gun, I'll give you 50 bucks for it.
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:58 PM   #11
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Since its just a throw together beat around gun, I'll give you 50 bucks for it.

We better make sure it shoots first before you get too much money tied up in your offer
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:01 PM   #12
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Looks great! Good job
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:06 PM   #13
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Heck of a throw together! Very nice.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:11 PM   #14
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Have y'all abandoned the Carbon APR barrel idea?
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:24 PM   #15
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That throw together rifle would easily to nicest gun in my fleet! Very nice!
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:37 PM   #16
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Have y'all abandoned the Carbon APR barrel idea?
Since Robert’s rifle is wearing an APR CF barrel, the product is still likely in the infancy stage. To make sure the barrel will be competitive with the big names, lots of R&D is probably being done. This would mean multiple cartridges with a variety of twists. Several thousand rounds fired to see how the barrel holds up to accuracy and wear.

If APR only chambered and tested 15 barrels in 6.5CM, they wouldn’t get a true perspective on how these barrels perform. I’m guessing they’ll test multiple cartridges with multiple barrel lengths and twists to get a true bell curve. IMO, the most important thing is to document, document, document. That way APR can remedy any mistakes learned from the R&D stage. I would rather they wait and release a proven product than to rush and chamber inferior barrels
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:46 PM   #17
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Must be nice!
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Old 07-20-2019, 09:47 PM   #18
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7 lbs naked? I thought it would come under 7 with an 18” carbon fiber barrel.
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Old 07-20-2019, 10:50 PM   #19
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7 lbs naked? I thought it would come under 7 with an 18” carbon fiber barrel.
Component weight
Action - 2 lbs 2 ozs
Stock - 2 lbs 1 oz
Bottom metal - 5 ozs
18” CF barrel - 2 lbs 8 ozs

Rifle weight - 7 lbs +/- an ounce or two
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:09 PM   #20
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I’m glad to see this one. You got my wheels spinning in my head after we talked at the shop on Thursday morning. Really anxious to hear your results on whitetails with this.
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:19 PM   #21
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If you want additional testing I have a spare Deviant that I would like to put to work. I have a Manners T4a and bottom metal. I have a few .308 barrels for it but I have been bored with that round and willing to test something that would be either a 600 yard f-class contender or something for ELR limited.

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Old 07-21-2019, 06:14 PM   #22
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Since Robert’s rifle is wearing an APR CF barrel, the product is still likely in the infancy stage. To make sure the barrel will be competitive with the big names, lots of R&D is probably being done. This would mean multiple cartridges with a variety of twists. Several thousand rounds fired to see how the barrel holds up to accuracy and wear.

If APR only chambered and tested 15 barrels in 6.5CM, they wouldn’t get a true perspective on how these barrels perform. I’m guessing they’ll test multiple cartridges with multiple barrel lengths and twists to get a true bell curve. IMO, the most important thing is to document, document, document. That way APR can remedy any mistakes learned from the R&D stage. I would rather they wait and release a proven product than to rush and chamber inferior barrels

Blake - Couldn't have said it better
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Old 07-21-2019, 06:35 PM   #23
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7 lbs naked? I thought it would come under 7 with an 18” carbon fiber barrel.
Couple of things going on here that leads to a heavier rig than might be expected. My length of pull is about 1/2" longer than "standard", so 3-4 oz weight penalty there. I used our G2 action instead of our hunter. It's a few ozs heavier because of the solid bridge, plus it uses a steel rail and bolt knob instead of AL. I probably would have been around 6.25ish with the other action and right at 6 lbs with the hunter and a standard length stock.

I really wasn't going for a ultra-light on this one, as I've kind of got to the point where I appreciate the stability an extra pound or two offers. A 7.5 - 8.5 lb rig all up seems to offer the best of everything for the way I hunt. I find 8 lbs and balanced on the front action screw is a pleasure to carry and pretty stable during the moment of truth. I'm still fascinated by the ultra lights and fly weights, but I just don't find myself building them for personal stuff anymore.
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Old 07-21-2019, 07:26 PM   #24
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:26 AM   #25
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Looks great Robert, my 6mm creed. sure shoots good!
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:30 AM   #26
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Sweet-looking gun. Man, I learn something new from every one of these threads.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:02 PM   #27
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If it shoots anything like my TBH special 6 creed it will be a hammer on deer and yotes and anything else that stands still long enough!

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Old 07-24-2019, 09:09 PM   #28
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Looks like bad medicine for the critters!
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Old 07-26-2019, 10:35 AM   #29
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Here is a quick 3 shot group at 525 to check my elevation with the 108 match hornady factory load. Can't wait so start smacking critters with this thing this fall.

3 shots to the left is the group. Right at 2.75" didn't really take my time to group. Was more concerned with my dope and I'd say that's dead nuts on.

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Old 12-26-2019, 04:25 PM   #30
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So, haven't been willing to put down the bow yet this year so this thing got put in the corner and mostly forgotten about until now. It was also one of the early test barrels and didn't really impress during the one trip I took it to the range for break in. I put it aside with the intention of working up a load for it later......which probably means WAY later. Haha. Fast forward to today, and I have an unexpected opportunity to take a very special young man hunting this weekend. This would be the perfect rig for him and the expected ranges will be pretty short anyway. Figured it would probably do what we needed it to do if I didn't let my OCD get in the way I'm not sure if the barrel finally settled in, or if the other guns in the safe gave it a stern talking to about the rules around here........ but the same factory ammo that struggled to go under 1.5" last time did this today! And I sure wasn't shooting my "A" game sandwiched between 2 ARs and dodging hot brass.


I'm actually excited about working up a load for it now! I was right on the fence about chambering up one of the newer gen test barrels in a Dasher and calling it a day. Now I kind of want to see how this thing plays out. Definitely showing some promise.
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:44 PM   #31
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Itching to see what it does!


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Old 12-26-2019, 04:57 PM   #32
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I hate it when y’all post stuff like this. It always gets me thinking.


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Very nice, hopefully I'll be able to have APR build me something soon. I've never owned a custom rifle before and joining this sight has really opened my eyes to the endless possibilities available these days.

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Component weight
Action - 2 lbs 2 ozs
Stock - 2 lbs 1 oz
Bottom metal - 5 ozs
18” CF barrel - 2 lbs 8 ozs

Rifle weight - 7 lbs +/- an ounce or two
What is the weight of a CF barrel in .270 Winchester and 25" long? Inquiring minds need to know
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I want that in a 22CM
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Old 12-27-2019, 10:18 AM   #36
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I want that in a KRG Bravo or Whiskey folder chassis!
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Old 12-30-2019, 03:17 PM   #37
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I don't know how this thing is going to shoot once load development is done, but as far as I'm concerned its already been a huge success! It sure put a smile on our faces this weekend

Spent a little time going over the basics, having some fun and stretching it out a little bit.


Then spent a little time on the wheat field where he made a perfect 275 yd shot on his first deer!


Mission accomplished! Pretty sure he's hooked...........and we just added another hunter and shooter to our ranks.
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Old 12-30-2019, 03:20 PM   #38
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That’s awesome congrats to the hunter


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Congrats to the young man and a job well done to you sir!
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Old 12-30-2019, 03:45 PM   #40
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Awesome job Robert. I saw the IG and FB post and recognized the rifle then remembered your update to this thread. Congrats to the hunter!
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Old 12-30-2019, 03:46 PM   #41
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Thats what its all about!
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When you do handload for the Bergers in an APR 6mm CM do you have a recipe you like? 42.1 of H4350 has been okay for me, but I wonder what others are using.
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When you do handload for the Bergers in an APR 6mm CM do you have a recipe you like? 42.1 of H4350 has been okay for me, but I wonder what others are using.
It will be 41+ gr of 4350. How much depends on powder lot and what the barrel wants.
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Nice work! Looks like you guys are really taking advantage of the strengths of the 6mm Creedmoor. That's some really nice shooting!
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It will be 41+ gr of 4350. How much depends on powder lot and what the barrel wants.
Thanks, that APR 6mm had a great season this year as my do everything hunting rifle, and I've yet to lose an animal with it. I like those Berger 105s too - great conical wound cavities that balance lethality with meat preservation. So much so that I'm planning on trying out their 140s in my APR 6.5CM next.
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Thanks, that APR 6mm had a great season this year as my do everything hunting rifle, and I've yet to lose an animal with it. I like those Berger 105s too - great conical wound cavities that balance lethality with meat preservation. So much so that I'm planning on trying out their 140s in my APR 6.5CM next.

Nice! We shot 2 more bucks yesterday with the 105 hybrid. I'm starting to be impressed.
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Nice! We shot 2 more bucks yesterday with the 105 hybrid. I'm starting to be impressed.


Those 105s are money! Shot those out of a custom 243 for a while


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Nice! We shot 2 more bucks yesterday with the 105 hybrid. I'm starting to be impressed.
I’ve put quite a few animals down with my 6CM. A couple weeks back it was a doe at 320. Literally the fastest dropped animal I’ve seen to date. Her hind end was on the ground before we heard the report of the projectile hitting her. Her neck and head were the only things off the ground at that point. Couple years ago I dropped another doe at 404 and one at 598 on the same day, but they were both a 6x47. Pretty much identical velocity, but a 105 Hybrid instead.
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