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Old 07-02-2014, 02:07 PM   #1
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Need help.. Good gash on her neck. Wasn't bleeding when I found her. Peroxide in the wound and pine tar to try and hold it together. Can't afford the vet since I've been outta work for 2 weeks. Can anybody around the Livingston area stitch or have the stuff to stitch? Any suggestions?
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:10 PM   #2
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man that sucks.

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Old 07-02-2014, 02:11 PM   #3
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i would at least use some super glu and try and hold it together as much as possible. i've done this before with my dogs.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:12 PM   #4
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talk to the vet, maybe he'll let you pay it out.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:13 PM   #5
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Clean it real well and supper glue it together. Get that pine tar out of the cut it will not help.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:13 PM   #6
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I really wish you where closer to me... I would help you out.. Call this number 972 424 4860 its a place that helps pay for vet bills... also if you have hair clippers shave the area around the wound.. clean it very very good... Get that pine tar off the dog!!! it will hold all kinda of dirt and crap in it.. you can also try care credit if your credit is good.. send me a pm if you need anymore info..
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:14 PM   #7
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I've used super glue on myself before and it works the same as skin glue. do you have anything to shave the hair off around the area?
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:14 PM   #8
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i would at least use some super glu and try and hold it together as much as possible. i've done this before with my dogs.
I gave her half a vicadin to knock her out and I probably will. She's a 150 lbs mastiff baby so she can handle the meds. My only concern is her not bleeding when I found her..
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:15 PM   #9
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Wash it out with a water hose a couple times a day for 2-3 minutes. No peroxide or pine tar or anything else. Hydrotherapy only. If you have access you may shoot some penicillin. Let it heal from inside out. Do not close it up.

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Old 07-02-2014, 02:15 PM   #10
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Clean it real well and supper glue it together. Get that pine tar out of the cut it will not help.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:16 PM   #11
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Super glue... I've used it on myself and hubby before in a pinch. Clean it well though. I'm not exactly sure how to get the pine tar off now but rubbing alcohol removes adhesive so it may help but it'll STING! And shave around it carefully if you can.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:17 PM   #12
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Also try to keep it clean go to a feed store and get some betadine and clean it really good. Check your local feed store they may have the stuff to stitch if you know how to do it

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Old 07-02-2014, 02:17 PM   #13
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Her not bleeding doesn't mean anything at all... You need to get the pine tar out asap!!!! clean the wound very very well... super glue it together asap the longer its open the longer more chance for infenction if you have any old anitbiodics let me know... you can use amoxicillin cephalexin.. pm me for dosage..
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:19 PM   #14
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I gave her half a vicadin to knock her out and I probably will. She's a 150 lbs mastiff baby so she can handle the meds. My only concern is her not bleeding when I found her..
It's not bleeding because the cut isn't that bad at all. Go to a pet supply store and get a skin stapler. Three or four staples and she'll be good as new.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:19 PM   #15
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I do have clippers and when she goes to sleep I'll do more doctoring
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It's not bleeding because the cut isn't that bad at all. Go to a pet supply store and get a skin stapler. Three or four staples and she'll be good as new.
Just like he said most pet stores don't sell it may have to look at a feed store!!
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:25 PM   #17
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I have a lot of Suture at my house if there is a way to get it to you. If you used super glue for now I could mail it to you. I dont know just a idea.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:27 PM   #18
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Wash it out with a water hose a couple times a day for 2-3 minutes. No peroxide or pine tar or anything else. Hydrotherapy only. If you have access you may shoot some penicillin. Let it heal from inside out. Do not close it up.
This is the way to go. Keep it CLEAN. unless there is a lot of bleeding don't worry about stitches.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:29 PM   #19
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Goodness sure hope it works out for you and the pup....
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:31 PM   #20
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Wash it out with a water hose a couple times a day for 2-3 minutes. No peroxide or pine tar or anything else. Hydrotherapy only. If you have access you may shoot some penicillin. Let it heal from inside out. Do not close it up.
Could not of said it better. I have had many many badly wounded dogs and the explanation above is the ticket.

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Old 07-02-2014, 02:34 PM   #21
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When you glue it, or staple, leave a small bit open at bottom so it can drain. This will help prevent infection
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:35 PM   #22
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DO NOT SUPER GLUE IT. Closing it now will ensure it will get infected and cause an abscess. You can seal a wound with glue if it is a simple cut from clean instrument (like a knife while doing dishes) and contaminated wounds should be irrigated for 5 minutes with tap water. Initial cleaning with mild soap and peroxide is ok but avoid continued use as it kills the new healthy cells as well. Let it close over 10 days, it should do fine
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:36 PM   #23
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PM AgVet2004. He will give you good advice.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:38 PM   #24
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Tractor Supply will have everything you need.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:44 PM   #25
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Clean it real good and give her a shot of penicillin. If you use anything to clean it use alchole it works wonders. After you clean it put a few staples in it to hold it together for bout 13-14 days then pull staples out it will heal up just fine. I have doctored many of hog dogs in my life and haven't lost one yet doin it that way
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:46 PM   #26
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Wash it out with a water hose a couple times a day for 2-3 minutes. No peroxide or pine tar or anything else. Hydrotherapy only. If you have access you may shoot some penicillin. Let it heal from inside out. Do not close it up.
This and spray with Vetericyn spray. You can get it at most feed stores.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:51 PM   #27
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If you use super glue, make sure you don't fill the wound with it. You want to tack the skin together. If you fill the hole, it will cause problems.

I have a skin stapler I have used on my dog.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:54 PM   #28
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Dang Andy she is such a sweet heart hate to see that.
Howd you keep Corla from killing every pig in the county?!?!
Good luck Bubba


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Old 07-02-2014, 03:09 PM   #29
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Dang Andy she is such a sweet heart hate to see that.
Howd you keep Corla from killing every pig in the county?!?!
Good luck Bubba


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I've got the AR ready for her. This is my baby tho.. Her baby is the male, Toby. It's not that bad, and she's done everything right, just looking for some ideas. I know she can fix her
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Old 07-02-2014, 03:15 PM   #30
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As said above, don't close it up completely. It will make it worse especially being cut from a hog, a lot bacteria. Don't worry about the bleeding, could just mean it cut more fat than anything else. If the dog was gonna bleed out, it would have done so already. Keep it clean, take out and don't put any more tar, and if u can, get some antibiotics from the feedstore. As long as you're keeping the wound clean and can get some antibiotics, dog should be fine. They can take a hit and keep going.
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Old 07-02-2014, 03:18 PM   #31
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Get some antibotics infections your worst enemy.Easttexas hoggers will have the best info most of those guys deal with worst all the time. The first time your buddy gits hog cut or snake bit are the scariest
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:25 PM   #32
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Could not of said it better. I have had many many badly wounded dogs and the explanation above is the ticket.

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Good advice....not an arterial wound or even major Vein wound....infection is the main concern.
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:43 PM   #33
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Put a few staples in and spray a antiseptic spray on it. Should be fine. I've had hog dogs with much worse wounds and just left a scar. If you have another dog, let it lick the wound.
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:48 PM   #34
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Most vets will work with you to save the dog. At least ask them.
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:50 PM   #35
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Bump for you and the pup.

Not going to suggest anything other than to talk to a vet over the phone. Lota of good folkd here, but get suggestions from a qualified source. Prayers for the pup.
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Old 07-02-2014, 07:00 PM   #36
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After cleaning out the wound, go to the feed store and get some FURA-ZONE ointment.

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This stuff works Andy, go get some.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:04 PM   #37
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Hey I was able to find this out for you ... I just the justanswer.com for my 12 year old Pyrenees he scares the bejesus out of me in his sr years .. but anywho ... (wanted to get the question out to a vet not that I don't trust any of your opinions )


Doc I do have another question for you I don't know if you can comment on it but can you look at this and give me your best advice:
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=465439

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Type of Dog: Mastiff
Dog's Gender: Male
Name of Dog: unkwn
What have you tried so far?: I want to help the guy out and I don't want him told wrong if you can please let me know something I would appreciate it
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Hi, it looks like Dr. Gary isn't online. I can help you with your question today.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

hello doc not looking for prescriptions or diagnosis ... just trying to get some advice for the guys pup ...
Dr. Susan :

You are so kind to do this!
Dr. Susan :

It would be nice if we knew if he had any antibiotics on hand.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

I don't think he does from the post
Dr. Susan :

That wound should heal up, but I am concerned about the possibility of infection.
Dr. Susan :

If I had that dog in front of me, I would fill the wound with sterile lubricant (think KY jelly) and then shave all around it, approx 1-2 inches, with clippers.
Dr. Susan :

The KY is to prevent hair from getting stuck in the wound.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

just let it heal from the inside out?
Dr. Susan :

He should NOT use peroxide (good for superficial wounds, but damaging to deeper tissues) or pine tar - yuck- anymore.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

kk I will pass that on
Dr. Susan :

Since he has hogs, do you think he has injectable antibiotics? Or was it a wild hog?
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

wild hog
Dr. Susan :

Ooooh I understand now. I was wondering what farmer didn't have antibiotics on hand!
Dr. Susan :

If he can get some betadine, that would be great. This is actually used as a surgical scrub and is not going to damage the tissue further.
Dr. Susan :

As large as that wound is, it would be preferable to close it some.
Dr. Susan :

However, if we close the skin completely, I do agree with the other posts that we are asking for an abscess.
Dr. Susan :

If I was working in the field with limited supplies, I would try to throw in just 2 skin staples, so that the wound wasn't gaping, but also wasn't completely closed.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

kk
Dr. Susan :

Then I would continue to clean the wound with the betadine 3 times daily making sure to get inside the wound between the stapled areas.
Dr. Susan :

Does that make sense?
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

yes
Dr. Susan :

Excellent. That is one brave puppy! I would expect to see it drying and appearing to heal within 4-5 days.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

is the KY fill a one time thing?
Dr. Susan :

It should be just about healed by 10-14 days
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

kk good to hear : )
Dr. Susan :

Yes, the KY is just to keep excess junk out of the wound while we shave and clean around it. After that the KY should be flushed out.


The above is given for information only. I cannot legally prescribe medicine or diagnose your pet without a physical exam. If you have concerns about your pet I advise contacting your regular veterinarian.


--- Hope it helps keep us posted
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Hey I was able to find this out for you ... I just the justanswer.com for my 12 year old Pyrenees he scares the bejesus out of me in his sr years .. but anywho ... (wanted to get the question out to a vet not that I don't trust any of your opinions )


Doc I do have another question for you I don't know if you can comment on it but can you look at this and give me your best advice:
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=465439

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Type of Dog: Mastiff
Dog's Gender: Male
Name of Dog: unkwn
What have you tried so far?: I want to help the guy out and I don't want him told wrong if you can please let me know something I would appreciate it
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Hi, it looks like Dr. Gary isn't online. I can help you with your question today.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

hello doc not looking for prescriptions or diagnosis ... just trying to get some advice for the guys pup ...
Dr. Susan :

You are so kind to do this!
Dr. Susan :

It would be nice if we knew if he had any antibiotics on hand.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

I don't think he does from the post
Dr. Susan :

That wound should heal up, but I am concerned about the possibility of infection.
Dr. Susan :

If I had that dog in front of me, I would fill the wound with sterile lubricant (think KY jelly) and then shave all around it, approx 1-2 inches, with clippers.
Dr. Susan :

The KY is to prevent hair from getting stuck in the wound.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

just let it heal from the inside out?
Dr. Susan :

He should NOT use peroxide (good for superficial wounds, but damaging to deeper tissues) or pine tar - yuck- anymore.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

kk I will pass that on
Dr. Susan :

Since he has hogs, do you think he has injectable antibiotics? Or was it a wild hog?
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

wild hog
Dr. Susan :

Ooooh I understand now. I was wondering what farmer didn't have antibiotics on hand!
Dr. Susan :

If he can get some betadine, that would be great. This is actually used as a surgical scrub and is not going to damage the tissue further.
Dr. Susan :

As large as that wound is, it would be preferable to close it some.
Dr. Susan :

However, if we close the skin completely, I do agree with the other posts that we are asking for an abscess.
Dr. Susan :

If I was working in the field with limited supplies, I would try to throw in just 2 skin staples, so that the wound wasn't gaping, but also wasn't completely closed.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

kk
Dr. Susan :

Then I would continue to clean the wound with the betadine 3 times daily making sure to get inside the wound between the stapled areas.
Dr. Susan :

Does that make sense?
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

yes
Dr. Susan :

Excellent. That is one brave puppy! I would expect to see it drying and appearing to heal within 4-5 days.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

is the KY fill a one time thing?
Dr. Susan :

It should be just about healed by 10-14 days
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

kk good to hear : )
Dr. Susan :

Yes, the KY is just to keep excess junk out of the wound while we shave and clean around it. After that the KY should be flushed out.


The above is given for information only. I cannot legally prescribe medicine or diagnose your pet without a physical exam. If you have concerns about your pet I advise contacting your regular veterinarian.


--- Hope it helps keep us posted

That looks like the best advice you are going to get without seeing a veterinarian.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:12 PM   #39
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Wash it out with a water hose a couple times a day for 2-3 minutes. No peroxide or pine tar or anything else. Hydrotherapy only. If you have access you may shoot some penicillin. Let it heal from inside out. Do not close it up.
This how we treat deep wounds on our horses.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:19 PM   #40
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Hey I was able to find this out for you ... I just the justanswer.com for my 12 year old Pyrenees he scares the bejesus out of me in his sr years .. but anywho ... (wanted to get the question out to a vet not that I don't trust any of your opinions )


Doc I do have another question for you I don't know if you can comment on it but can you look at this and give me your best advice:
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=465439

Optional Information:
Type of Dog: Mastiff
Dog's Gender: Male
Name of Dog: unkwn
What have you tried so far?: I want to help the guy out and I don't want him told wrong if you can please let me know something I would appreciate it
You have received an Answer!
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Dr. Susan :

Hi, it looks like Dr. Gary isn't online. I can help you with your question today.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

hello doc not looking for prescriptions or diagnosis ... just trying to get some advice for the guys pup ...
Dr. Susan :

You are so kind to do this!
Dr. Susan :

It would be nice if we knew if he had any antibiotics on hand.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

I don't think he does from the post
Dr. Susan :

That wound should heal up, but I am concerned about the possibility of infection.
Dr. Susan :

If I had that dog in front of me, I would fill the wound with sterile lubricant (think KY jelly) and then shave all around it, approx 1-2 inches, with clippers.
Dr. Susan :

The KY is to prevent hair from getting stuck in the wound.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

just let it heal from the inside out?
Dr. Susan :

He should NOT use peroxide (good for superficial wounds, but damaging to deeper tissues) or pine tar - yuck- anymore.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

kk I will pass that on
Dr. Susan :

Since he has hogs, do you think he has injectable antibiotics? Or was it a wild hog?
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

wild hog
Dr. Susan :

Ooooh I understand now. I was wondering what farmer didn't have antibiotics on hand!
Dr. Susan :

If he can get some betadine, that would be great. This is actually used as a surgical scrub and is not going to damage the tissue further.
Dr. Susan :

As large as that wound is, it would be preferable to close it some.
Dr. Susan :

However, if we close the skin completely, I do agree with the other posts that we are asking for an abscess.
Dr. Susan :

If I was working in the field with limited supplies, I would try to throw in just 2 skin staples, so that the wound wasn't gaping, but also wasn't completely closed.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

kk
Dr. Susan :

Then I would continue to clean the wound with the betadine 3 times daily making sure to get inside the wound between the stapled areas.
Dr. Susan :

Does that make sense?
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

yes
Dr. Susan :

Excellent. That is one brave puppy! I would expect to see it drying and appearing to heal within 4-5 days.
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

is the KY fill a one time thing?
Dr. Susan :

It should be just about healed by 10-14 days
JACUSTOMER-gw1d5ivp- :

kk good to hear : )
Dr. Susan :

Yes, the KY is just to keep excess junk out of the wound while we shave and clean around it. After that the KY should be flushed out.


The above is given for information only. I cannot legally prescribe medicine or diagnose your pet without a physical exam. If you have concerns about your pet I advise contacting your regular veterinarian.


--- Hope it helps keep us posted
Awesome stuff brother.. Thank you for doing that for me. That's actually what we did.. Almost to the "T"

Thanks to everyone for the help and ideas. I've dealt with stuff like this with other animals but never with my baby
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DO NOT SUPER GLUE IT. Closing it now will ensure it will get infected and cause an abscess. You can seal a wound with glue if it is a simple cut from clean instrument (like a knife while doing dishes) and contaminated wounds should be irrigated for 5 minutes with tap water. Initial cleaning with mild soap and peroxide is ok but avoid continued use as it kills the new healthy cells as well. Let it close over 10 days, it should do fine
This is what I was taught. Also, prevent the dog from scratching once he is able. They can recover from amazing injuries if we don't make the wounds worse.

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Dogs are tough, keep the wound clean and they can do the rest. Wishin the best for you buddy.
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Any time our horses would cut themselves up we would always clean it with iodine solution you can get from the store it is either purple or blue, and then put absorbine antiseptic on it or cutnheal spray on it rinse it out everynight with water and then reapply the spray worked fine for us and we had some horses with some much much bigger cuts than that heal up just fine.
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Need to be cleaned up!!! Get some idione and water and drain it out . You don't want infection . He needs to be put on cephalexin or just give him a injection of pencillin . Don't use hydrogen peroxide cause it kills live skin. Don't use the purple stuff cause it dry up . I work for a vet I'm the vet tech so that's why I'm trying to help . Goodluck
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Leave it open. Let a water hose run real slow on it as many times a day as you can. That is a real superficial wound. The dog will be fine , I promise. If you happen to have some antibiotics around , use them.
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That doesn't look like a bad cut. Keep it washed out with water a couple times a day. Vet should sell you some cephalexin, probably get a round of them for 10 bucks. I get dogs cut all the time. Do not close up the wound. If you do leave the bottom open to drain.
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Shave it clean it real good apply this as directed **NEXT**

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Just go get a staple gun from a vet supply they are like $10... Leave the ends open so it can drain and stop trying to mess with it and wash it out the more you mess with it the more likely you will push dirt deeper in wound, I've learned from hog dogging best thing to do is pull big debris out with fingers and stapler her up
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EMT Gel has worked well for when our dogs get a bad cut.
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