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Originally posted by ClearcreekDC View PostYou are going to be waiting a while if you efiled. They only send an attachment to your email upon approval. Print it. I keep a copy in my truck and at my home at all times.
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Originally posted by SC-Texas View PostIts intent. Posts on social media i.e. this thread. Text messages and emails discussing how to build a silencer. Searches on building a silencer.
Purchasing solvent trap kits. Seriously, they really aren't as stupid as you think they are.
And when they show up and ask for the parts. You give it to them because it costs more to fight it.
It's the intent to use them as a silencer part and that's usually easy enough to infer and infer they can.
Sent from my SM-N976V using TapatalkLast edited by Graysonhogs; 09-25-2019, 01:40 PM.
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Just know the laws and you will be just fine. Tons of FB groups with hundreds or more talking about this daily. You have to understand that the ATF is probably approving 100s of Form 1s DAILY. You really think THEY think we are all metal machinist? Come on! You will be fine and good luck.Last edited by ClearcreekDC; 09-25-2019, 05:26 PM.
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Originally posted by ClearcreekDC View PostJust know the laws and you will be just fine. Tons of FB groups with hundreds or more talking about this daily. You have to understand that the ATF is probably approving 100s of Form 1s DAILY. You really think THEY think we are all metal machinist? Come on! You will be fine and good luck.
I would trust the NFA lawyer on this thread and not the above.
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Originally posted by ClearcreekDC View PostThat’s fine. Trust who you want. I promise it doesn’t make a difference to me. Read the laws. Interpret them how you want.
That said, I'm not going to tell you how many people gather the parts before the form 1 is approved.
The examples I have been involved in bought solvent traps online or paid with a card in a shop or gun show and when the ATF seized the owner and his records, his email list, facebook messenger messages, etc. and assets they easily ID'd the customers.
What does that mean.
1. The law is the law.
2. The ATF most likely isn't going to come to your home because you bought chore boy brass pads or a shoe lace (machinegun ya know) or a oil filter
But stop deluding yourself about the legality of solvent traps especially if you have form 1 pending. That's intent on its face.
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Just to be clear as the OP, and just in case anyone is snitching me to the BATF, I have purchased no parts, and don't intend to purchase any parts until the Form 1 is complete. I simply was trying to put a parts list together to determine best place to purchase once the Form 1 is finished. Not sure how this went off the rails.
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Originally posted by SC-Texas View PostI have had the batfe visit clients who ordered solvent trap parts kits off ebay.
They also wanted the NaPA oil filters that he ordered
I have had them visit people and seize solvent trap kits they bought from a local solvent trap dealer that they shut down. They were running email contacts. Receipts and credit card history.
These parts were undrilled solvent trap parts.
The Form 1 Mafia does a lot of things right. But they give terrible advice when it comes to the possession of unregistered silencers and parts.
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Man you read so much disinformation on the internet about this...
Also, I wonder if any of this stuff mentioned later in this thread has been tested in court or if it’s just the ATF cramming it’s version of the law down the throats of otherwise law abiding citizens.
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Originally posted by big_smith View PostJust to be clear as the OP, and just in case anyone is snitching me to the BATF, I have purchased no parts, and don't intend to purchase any parts until the Form 1 is complete. I simply was trying to put a parts list together to determine best place to purchase once the Form 1 is finished. Not sure how this went off the rails.
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Originally posted by Hunteraudit View PostSo after I have my F1 stamp in hand, is it ok to then purchase a solvent trap to use in a build? What about other “suppressor parts” that I may need to put it together.
Man you read so much disinformation on the internet about this...
Also, I wonder if any of this stuff mentioned later in this thread has been tested in court or if it’s just the ATF cramming it’s version of the law down the throats of otherwise law abiding citizens.
Its so stupid.
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Originally posted by SC-Texas View PostHere's the deal. I am simply right about this.
That said, I'm not going to tell you how many people gather the parts before the form 1 is approved.
The examples I have been involved in bought solvent traps online or paid with a card in a shop or gun show and when the ATF seized the owner and his records, his email list, facebook messenger messages, etc. and assets they easily ID'd the customers.
What does that mean.
1. The law is the law.
2. The ATF most likely isn't going to come to your home because you bought chore boy brass pads or a shoe lace (machinegun ya know) or a oil filter
But stop deluding yourself about the legality of solvent traps especially if you have form 1 pending. That's intent on its face.
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Originally posted by ClearcreekDC View PostI dont have a form 1 pending at all. Can you copy/paste the law that says solvent traps are illegal? I dont care about your interpretation (no offense). I would like you to state the law. I understand you are a big wig lawyer with a great following. I just want the law posted that says solvent traps are illegal. Also how old are all these prior experiences with clients you keep mentioning? Anything in last 4 years?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5861
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