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Old 05-06-2021, 10:31 AM   #1
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It sounds like the first new major reservoir in 30 years is filling pretty quickly - I read it is up 18' since they closed the gates about 3 weeks ago. TPWD has already begun their stocking program. It's exciting to have a new 16,000 acre impoundment in north Texas. Any of you locals know what the plans are for marinas and other access?

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Didn't even know this went underway!

What implications does it have down stream?

Looks like initial plans was 3 boat ramps
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It sounds like the first new major reservoir in 30 years is filling pretty quickly - I read it is up 18' since they closed the gates about 3 weeks ago. TPWD has already begun their stocking program. It's exciting to have a new 16,000 acre impoundment in north Texas. Any of you locals know what the plans are for marinas and other access?
Iím sure it wasnít exciting to the folks who lost good land so that Dallas could water yards in July and August.
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Been watching it being built the last couple yrs. Should be swanky around the lake.
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Iím sure it wasnít exciting to the folks who lost good land so that Dallas could water yards in July and August.
yeah I cringe every time I hear talks about Marvin Nichols.
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yeah I cringe every time I hear talks about Marvin Nichols.
Marvin Nichols and George Parkhouse II Lakes are both threats to lots of country folks way of life. Mine included.
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We worked on this project. Glad to hear itís filling up.


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Iím sure it wasnít exciting to the folks who lost good land so that Dallas could water yards in July and August.

They were compensated, by NTMWD.


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Old 05-06-2021, 11:26 AM   #10
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Lol. Being forced to sell your land is different than choosing to sell your land. Let me guess, you live in the city?
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Iím sure it wasnít exciting to the folks who lost good land so that Dallas could water yards in July and August.
Getting one new reservoir up and running is putting a band aid on the problem weíll soon have. The powers in charge need to recognize it and change the way we do things in regards to both using and conserving.

No way that north Texas can continue to boom population-wise like we are and are projected to, and not outgrow the water supply. WAY too many people waste water like itíll never run out.

My fear is The next five year drought is coming sooner than later. Hope people havenít become forgetful with the last six wet years and the water districts having full lakes.
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Old 05-06-2021, 11:48 AM   #12
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It comes with growth.


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Old 05-06-2021, 11:51 AM   #13
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yeah I cringe every time I hear talks about Marvin Nichols.
I hear ya. We will lose our place if it goes in.
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I live about 8 miles from there.
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Old 05-06-2021, 11:54 AM   #15
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Not all growth is good. But all the developers tout it as a good thing. It is... for them.
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Typical city folk who never owned family land. Money ain't everything.
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For those interested in the Texas water issue, I suggest putting this on your reading list.

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Old 05-06-2021, 11:58 AM   #18
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Getting one new reservoir up and running is putting a band aid on the problem weíll soon have. The powers in charge need to recognize it and change the way we do things in regards to both using and conserving.



No way that north Texas can continue to boom population-wise like we are and are projected to, and not outgrow the water supply. WAY too many people waste water like itíll never run out.



My fear is The next five year drought is coming sooner than later. Hope people havenít become forgetful with the last six wet years and the water districts having full lakes.
Not too many years ago people's wells we're going dry all over central/west Texas.. that was before the population BOOM! Scary to think what could potentially happen! Especially with all these new people using water like it'll never run dry.....

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Old 05-06-2021, 12:03 PM   #19
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Typical city folk who never owned family land. Money ain't everything.

Well, if that were true. 16,000 acres near Canadian growing up, 1,800 South of Tolar. Numerous small places in Parker County over the years.


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Old 05-06-2021, 12:07 PM   #20
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Seems strange someone would make this comment in the context of being compensated.

“They were compensated, by NTMWD.” Posted by Chad C

Really goes to the core for two points. 1. This land would be stolen with eminent domain if they refused to except the pennies on the dollar offers. 2. Agreed no one owns their land to begin with. The tax office owns every piece of land in Texas. If you wish to argue this point simply refuse to pay the yearly ransom tax on your property and see how long you keep it. Just my $.02.
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Old 05-06-2021, 12:08 PM   #21
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Well, if that were true. 16,000 acres near Canadian growing up, 1,800 South of Tolar. Numerous small places in Parker County over the years.


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They have all the signs up, but I haven't driven over the bridge since they closed the gates.

I had my property appraised about a month ago, and appraiser said 40 ac track by boat ramps just sold for $40k/ACRE!!! Some got compensated bigtime.
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I have property in Brock, a residence in NRH/Colleyville area, and at PK. Not sure why any of that matters.

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Old 05-06-2021, 12:22 PM   #26
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I wish it was closer. I love fishing new lakes
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Old 05-06-2021, 12:24 PM   #27
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I saw a pretty neat documentary on this lake being built a few years ago. Not sure on the name of it but it was mainly about a guy who was losing his land and taking a canoe trip down Bois d'Arc creek and how all the land was soon going to be underwater. Guess it all is now. progress sucks for most people. Others get rich off of it.
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Well, if that were true. 16,000 acres near Canadian growing up, 1,800 South of Tolar. Numerous small places in Parker County over the years.


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How much was bought by people you didn't want to sell to? I don't have a dog in the fight, but I do have empathy that a larger metropolitan area's thirst (pun intended), comes at the expense of people who didn't contribute to that problem in the first place.

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Old 05-06-2021, 12:27 PM   #29
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The reason it matters is because when you say things like ďthey were compensatedĒ and ďit comes with growthĒ, it pretty much letís me know that you donít have any skin in this particular game. If these other lake projects do come to fruition, then some of on this thread will have skin in the game. Iím not sure that any of our land will be under water by the proposed Parkhouse lakes, but our land will be part of the conservation area.
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Old 05-06-2021, 12:28 PM   #30
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I worked over there near it. At times it was an adventure pulling heavy trailers and dodging pot holes on the road that cut across. There’s a smaller lake going in not far from there. Haven’t kept up with the progress of either.
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Old 05-06-2021, 12:29 PM   #31
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I read they are trying to follow a Lake Fork model closely for the fishing and stocking but havent heard much else. Assuming they left a lot of timber uncut?
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Old 05-06-2021, 12:30 PM   #32
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I worked over there near it. At times it was an adventure pulling heavy trailers and dodging pot holes on the road that cut across. Thereís a smaller lake going in not far from there. Havenít kept up with the progress of either.
Haven't heard of the smaller lake? Have anymore details?
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Old 05-06-2021, 12:32 PM   #33
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I hear ya. Iím not trying to belittle anyone or their circumstances. Iíve dealt with development and property issues due to the development. Some good, some that sucked.


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It is a problem without a good solution - or at least there's no solution that won't screw somebody. It's easy to say "too many people are moving here" but how exactly do you stop it? Does the government not allow landowners to sell to developers anymore? That's a property rights issue just like eminent domain to build a lake is a property rights issue.

When you look at the Texas drought timeline it does seem that we are probably overdue for another extended one. If I remember right - depending on the month - 1/3 to 1/2 pf residential water usage is lawn and landscaping. Maybe cities need to outlaw turfgrass altogether like they do in parts of Arizona and California (how do you think that will go over?)
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Haven't heard of the smaller lake? Have anymore details?
I forgot the name. Only way I found out was after seeing a sign up. Will try to look it up.


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https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/...-state-7145601

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Old 05-06-2021, 12:35 PM   #36
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It is a problem without a good solution - or at least there's no solution that won't screw somebody. It's easy to say "too many people are moving here" but how exactly do you stop it? Does the government not allow landowners to sell to developers anymore? That's a property rights issue just like eminent domain to build a lake is a property rights issue.

When you look at the Texas drought timeline it does seem that we are probably overdue for another extended one. If I remember right - depending on the month - 1/3 to 1/2 pf residential water usage is lawn and landscaping. Maybe cities need to outlaw turfgrass altogether like they do in parts of Arizona and California (how do you think that will go over?)
Many of the local rural water districts put out ads in the paper warning people that just because you purchase property inside the water district, doesnít guarantee you will be provided water service.
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I hear ya. Iím not trying to belittle anyone or their circumstances. Iíve dealt with development and property issues due to the development. Some good, some that sucked.


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I saw a pretty neat documentary on this lake being built a few years ago. Not sure on the name of it but it was mainly about a guy who was losing his land and taking a canoe trip down Bois d'Arc creek and how all the land was soon going to be underwater. Guess it all is now. progress sucks for most people. Others get rich off of it.


found the video. its pretty interesting if you have 30 minutes to kill. It gives a little insight on the people who lost land for the lake

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Yup!! Load of crap.
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They have all the signs up, but I haven't driven over the bridge since they closed the gates.

I had my property appraised about a month ago, and appraiser said 40 ac track by boat ramps just sold for $40k/ACRE!!! Some got compensated bigtime.
That's about the going rate for the best stuff over there.
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They have all the signs up, but I haven't driven over the bridge since they closed the gates.

I had my property appraised about a month ago, and appraiser said 40 ac track by boat ramps just sold for $40k/ACRE!!! Some got compensated bigtime.
There weren't any penny on the dollar exchanges. There were several the built houses knowing the lake would be built simply to force them to buy the house as well. They bought whole properties. It sucks to lose family land, I get that. At the time of purchase, they were buying the land for two to three times market value per acre. The 15,000 acre Riverby Ranch being used for mitigation was purchased for 35 million.

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The ones that ended up with land around the lake are making a fortune, unlucky souls that lost land in the middle got the shaft. We’ve been working around the lakes outskirts for a while now with real estate companies cleaning up properties for resale. $40k n acre sounds to be about the average price but one agent said their holding out until they start really building around it and shooting for $80k in a year or two.
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Funny how all of those Land Owners want 40K/acre now. Spent the last 3-4 weeks driving around out there to look at buying some of this "My way of Life" property for upcoming retirement. Saw a few people that had nice places, but by and large it was methbilly property.
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found the video. its pretty interesting if you have 30 minutes to kill. It gives a little insight on the people who lost land for the lake

Tagged to watch later. Russell Graves used to be a TBH'er. Not sure if he's still on here.
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Old 05-06-2021, 01:34 PM   #45
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Funny how all of those Land Owners want 40K/acre now. Spent the last 3-4 weeks driving around out there to look at buying some of this "My way of Life" property for upcoming retirement. Saw a few people that had nice places, but by and large it was methbilly property.
Look in California, probably more your style.
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Look in California, probably more your style.
Actually about to put in an offer on some of it... not lakefront, but near enough for me.
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*deletes original paragraph* it truly sucks for those who lost family property to it, and those who will lose family property in the future to other lakes/railways/etc...I'll leave it at that

OP, I haven't heard anything on the plans for marinas/ramps/lake access. I will say that the lake is here, it isn't going away, so from this point forward I look forward to seeing the progress of the fishery side of it
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Old 05-06-2021, 01:56 PM   #48
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I also saw a show that TPWD had been stocking soil conservation lakes in the watershed with florida strain large mouths for the last couple of years so there will be some decent size fish when the lake fills. It may have actually been on lone star law. Saw it somewhere anyway. It may be the next big fish lake in Texas
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Old 05-06-2021, 01:57 PM   #49
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This is from the NTMWD website in the FAQs section for the new reservoir:

"NTMWD will build three public boat ramps as well as picnic areas and restrooms. One boat ramp will be located near FM 897 on the south shore of the lake. Another will be located on the lake’s north shore where it intersects with FM 1396 and the other on the south shore of FM 1396 where the road and the lake intersect."

Not sure when the last time this was updated or if there are plans for a full-service marina or not.
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Govt took it from the Indians, now they're taking it from the "white man"
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