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Old 11-08-2019, 11:29 PM   #1
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So this is my 3rd year on my lease and have to say it's getting a little challenging. There are 6 of us on 900 acres and it just seems like they have a completely different hunting style.

I am a quiet, get in the stand early and sit kind of guy and all these guys do is ride around in UTVs looking for deer pushing everything all over. Then come back to camp and complain that they see nothing.

Last year I put my time in and shot a nice 11 point buck. Biggest the camp has seen in years so I am told. Now all these guys want to do is drive near where I setup and look for a big one. I voice my opinions and am told to "take it easy we are all just having fun" I get in hours before sunrise then see them drive by my stand at 8:30......

We just brought on a new member on and he is looking to setup a blind.......400 yards from my setup. since thats "where the big ones are"

Rut is here and I am trying to plan my hunts and it's super difficult with this scenario. Our property has adjacent leases and all I do is hear shots going off like crazy since my members are pushing them all off.

So rant over. Next year I guess I will setup a little closer to the property line and not say anything.

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Old 11-08-2019, 11:43 PM   #2
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I feel your pain...last year I was on a lease with good potential. Unfortunately, the SxS convoy was a nonstop day and night, music blaring, drunken cruise up and down the road. Apparently the rules meant nothing to anyone...I don’t give a hoot how much someone drinks at the lease, but the SxS riding while drunk and blaring music was nonsense. I decided to take a break this year and I’m hunting at my in-laws farm. Next year I may give it a shot again, I just hope I can find a place where they at least respect other lease members
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:45 PM   #3
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We have rules that donít allow you to ride around during peak hunting times.


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Old 11-08-2019, 11:48 PM   #4
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So this is my 3rd year on my lease and have to say it's getting a little challenging. There are 6 of us on 900 acres and it just seems like they have a completely different hunting style.

I am a quiet, get in the stand early and sit kind of guy and all these guys do is ride around in UTVs looking for deer pushing everything all over. Then come back to camp and complain that they see nothing.

Last year I put my time in and shot a nice 11 point buck. Biggest the camp has seen in years so I am told. Now all these guys want to do is drive near where I setup and look for a big one. I voice my opinions and am told to "take it easy we are all just having fun" I get in hours before sunrise then see them drive by my stand at 8:30......

We just brought on a new member on and he is looking to setup a blind.......400 yards from my setup. since thats "where the big ones are"

Rut is here and I am trying to plan my hunts and it's super difficult with this scenario. Our property has adjacent leases and all I do is hear shots going off like crazy since my members are pushing them all off.

So rant over. Next year I guess I will setup a little closer to the property line and not say anything.
There are hunters.............then there are these guys..........unfortunately.....
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:48 PM   #5
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I'm with you the three of us ought to find us one.lol
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:51 PM   #6
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That can be extremely frustrating, but it doesn't sound like you can get them on your same wavelength. Good luck to you.
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:55 PM   #7
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all reasons that I bought my own place. nothing but foot traffic except after dark or on the county road while I'm hunting
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:24 AM   #8
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Yup that's tough. I think the right like minded group is just as important as the quality of the lease itself. I took a 3yr break and just got on 1200ac in Rocksprings this year. There are only 4 of us and one extra spot that is just paid for by another hunter. The rules are strict and include no joy riding through the woods during hunting hours. The last group broke the rules I think. These multiple strict rules made this place a **** zoo now. It is incredible! Good luck to you
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:38 AM   #9
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One of the many reasons I bought my Slice of Texas. Told the wife that our place would be a non-gun hunting place so she needed to get either a bow or a Xbow. She opted for the Xbow. We dont ride around, we walk at our place. We dont shoot guns or play loud music.....ever. I can't control what my neighbor does, but I can control what happens at my place. Best of luck
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Old 11-09-2019, 01:10 AM   #10
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Another pet peeve is that magically, opening day everyone needs to drive out to their blind and swap cards, fix feeders, scout new spots, repair blind windows, etc. You literally have months to do this but wait until I'm in the woods hunting to do so.

Another one is night hunting hogs. I don't care if there is a dedicated spot to do so, but to rip through the fields at 12 am cruising for pigs is just pushing our AM deer off the land. Once again, do this during the off season.

I really don't have any place else to hunt. Would love to buy my own place but can only afford a 30-40 acre parcel and just feel like thats not large enough.
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Old 11-09-2019, 05:13 AM   #11
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There are hunters.............then there are these guys..........unfortunately.....


X2. Sounds the guys I have hunted with before. Drink all day and just shoot from the road. Take a picture and tell a big story.

There are true hunters and then the guys who do this.


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Old 11-09-2019, 05:31 AM   #12
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[QUOTE=Turbo6;14495939]Another pet peeve is that magically, opening day everyone needs to drive out to their blind and swap cards, fix feeders, scout new spots, repair blind windows, etc. You literally have months to do this but wait until I'm in the woods hunting to do so.

Another one is night hunting hogs. I don't care if there is a dedicated spot to do so, but to rip through the fields at 12 am cruising for pigs is just pushing our AM deer off the land. Once again, do this during the off season.

I really don't have any place else to hunt. Would love to buy my own place but can only afford a 30-40 acre parcel and just feel like thats not large enough.[/QUOTE

30 acres in the right spot is plenty, believe me
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Old 11-09-2019, 05:35 AM   #13
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ugh all of that sounds awful. Maybe tell the lease owner? Really there should be some basic rules since there are probably guys that don't know any better. That should be on the lease owner though. They should spell them out real clearly so that all of their tenants are happy.
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Old 11-09-2019, 07:00 AM   #14
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Good lease’s and people are out there, you just gotta shop around. The lease your on is not going to change, time to start shopping. It’s like some jobs, that lease will work until something better comes along.
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Old 11-09-2019, 08:24 AM   #15
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Then there are those that like to ride around all night drinking beer and spotlighting varmints and coons at everybody else's feeders. They don't seem to think that this activity pushes the deer out or affects other peoples daylight hunting. Aw, we just shooting .22 rifles that don't make no noise. There's a reason for having lease rules and one strike your out!
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Old 11-09-2019, 08:49 AM   #16
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Then there are those that like to ride around all night drinking beer and spotlighting varmints and coons at everybody else's feeders. They don't seem to think that this activity pushes the deer out or affects other peoples daylight hunting. Aw, we just shooting .22 rifles that don't make no noise. There's a reason for having lease rules and one strike your out!

......and then...........there are even THOSE clowns......... and a LOT em nowadays.


Last year I got pictures of guys walking by one of my spots with miners lights on their heads. A few hours after I walked out. Obviously running dogs and trespassing of course. It's a darn good spot too.....

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Old 11-09-2019, 08:54 AM   #17
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So rant over. Next year I guess I will get off and find a new lease without this BS


FIFY...
We got off our last lease (with family) because of BS like this...
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:06 AM   #18
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How about those F ing screamers ??? I was over 350 yards away on a spot and this fool let’s loose this loud scream in celebration because he just stuck a pig. Really??? You’ve got to let whole lease know every time you shoot. Then at night drinking and yelling , its mind blowing how some immature grown men act. Screamers I can’t stand em!!!
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:16 AM   #19
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Everyone is always manage minded until it come to actually hunting. Move on might get lucky at another place. 6 hunters on 900 ac is stupid.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:17 AM   #20
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Sounds like you’re the odd man out on your lease so you should leave.

Leases have to be a team effort to work. The rest of the group isn’t on the same page as you are, so I’m guessing even if you tried to put in rules, it wouldn’t go your way.

Get a new place.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:32 AM   #21
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I bought a little 40 acre tree farm 1hr 40min from the house. Killed this guy Tuesday. You have NO idea how much nicer it is when you do your own thing. I used to lease close to where I bought land and was sick of the rules only applying to certain people and all the BS. You better believe staying quiet and stealthy helped me get this guy.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:32 AM   #22
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You are on a vacation lease, ain’t none of them fellers care about hunting. They just out there escaping work and home life.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:33 AM   #23
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I think that's a big reason I've hunted National Forest land for the last 33 years. I do agree if you were on a lease with like minded hunters it would be nice. Good luck.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:34 AM   #24
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I bought a little 40 acre tree farm 1hr 40min from the house. Killed this guy Tuesday. You have NO idea how much nicer it is when you do your own thing. I used to lease close to where I bought land and was sick of the rules only applying to certain people and all the BS. You better believe staying quiet and stealthy helped me get this guy.
Dang!!
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:51 AM   #25
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Get off and move on. Not a chance in hell would someone drive by my stand late or set up close to you after you have your area set up. To many other places for that. Let them replace you with one of there own kind
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:55 AM   #26
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I bought a little 40 acre tree farm 1hr 40min from the house. Killed this guy Tuesday. You have NO idea how much nicer it is when you do your own thing. I used to lease close to where I bought land and was sick of the rules only applying to certain people and all the BS. You better believe staying quiet and stealthy helped me get this guy.


We need better pictures of that buck!!!!


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Old 11-09-2019, 10:04 AM   #27
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Hope you get to acquire your own slice of Texas. Your situation sounds very frustrating.
No matter how big the land parcel. It is all location location location. I hunt a friends 8 ac tract that has produced literally hundreds of free range Axis throughout the years for me and many others. Some have been 30" +..good whitetail also.
I also own a small 6.5 ac tract that produced great whitetails, axis and a world record muntjac...I am surrounded by large ranches, most, low fence. I make a effort NOT to take too many whitetail on one property. Axis and exotics are fair game always.
Hope you get to have you land dream come alive.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:00 PM   #28
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Old 11-09-2019, 01:57 PM   #29
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I really don't have any place else to hunt. Would love to buy my own place but can only afford a 30-40 acre parcel and just feel like thats not large enough.
Donít fall for that mentality bud. 20ac in the right place is better than 900ac with a bunch of morons breaking all the lease rules. We have elk, Sika, hogs, WT, aoudads, fallow, blackbuck and Axis running around at our small Slice of Texas. Itís all about location location location. Best of luck in your endeavors.
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Old 11-20-2019, 09:43 AM   #30
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Well Iím off the lease.

Turns out they gave me the boot because I ďtake this too seriouslyĒ and they are just looking to hang out and have a good time. Aka drink and shoot deer from camp.

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Old 11-20-2019, 09:49 AM   #31
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Turns out they gave me the boot because I ďtake this too seriouslyĒ and they are just looking to hang out and have a good time. Aka drink and shoot deer from camp.

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Yeah, it goes both ways. I can see their side of the argument too. We have a group that hunts together at a buddy's place every year, and I don't think a super serious hunter would fit in there either.

Just gotta pick a lease that fits your personal expectations/style and that one clearly wasn't it.
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Old 11-20-2019, 09:55 AM   #32
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Well Iím off the lease.

Turns out they gave me the boot because I ďtake this too seriouslyĒ and they are just looking to hang out and have a good time. Aka drink and shoot deer from camp.

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Hate to hear that...good luck in finding a place that has like minded people

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Yeah, it goes both ways. I can see their side of the argument too. We have a group that hunts together at a buddy's place every year, and I don't think a super serious hunter would fit in there either.

Just gotta pick a lease that fits your personal expectations/style and that one clearly wasn't it.
Agreed...I've found enjoyment on every lease I've been on, I just enjoyed some more than others and mainly because the ones I didn't enjoy as much involved all of this stuff. More power to you if you like to drink and run around the lease...it just isn't what I'm there for and I'm better off heading elsewhere
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Old 11-20-2019, 09:56 AM   #33
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Yup that's tough. I think the right like minded group is just as important as the quality of the lease itself. I took a 3yr break and just got on 1200ac in Rocksprings this year. There are only 4 of us and one extra spot that is just paid for by another hunter. The rules are strict and include no joy riding through the woods during hunting hours. The last group broke the rules I think. These multiple strict rules made this place a **** zoo now. It is incredible! Good luck to you
All the reason to have guidelines/rules on any lease and enforce them. I always laugh about the folks who post that they will not be on a lease with a "bunch of rules" - that is the red flag for any serious hunter or serious hunting lease
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Old 11-20-2019, 09:58 AM   #34
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Turns out they gave me the boot because I ďtake this too seriouslyĒ and they are just looking to hang out and have a good time. Aka drink and shoot deer from camp.

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Sorry bud. Tough luck.

Family has their own land in an area thats heavily pressured so if you do look into getting your own property the situation is not always that much better.

But, one thing I've learned is that you can use the pressure to your advantage. Locating bedding areas in the thick stuff is always a great plan. Rubs often mark buck bedding areas and as the pressure heats up the bucks will be near their bedding all day and wont travel too far from them normally.

Just my two cents.
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:00 AM   #35
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Yeah, it goes both ways. I can see their side of the argument too. We have a group that hunts together at a buddy's place every year, and I don't think a super serious hunter would fit in there either.

Just gotta pick a lease that fits your personal expectations/style and that one clearly wasn't it.
This too is accurate - issues arise when folks get on the wrong type of lease for them. If it is a get some meat and party set up or a well managed structured set up the hunter needs to pick the one that they are looking for - otherwise there will be issues for sure
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:08 AM   #36
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All the reason to have guidelines/rules on any lease and enforce them. I always laugh about the folks who post that they will not be on a lease with a "bunch of rules" - that is the red flag for any serious hunter or serious hunting lease
Being a serious hunting lease isn't the only reason rules make sense...I used to hunt a buddies property 10-15 years ago, where I was pretty much the only guy who regularly hunted. It was, to say the least, a place to party and not hunt. But there were strict rules in place anyways, so that anyone who showed up for the first time knew the do's and don't's from the moment they arrived, for the safety of everyone there. You would think that common sense stuff wouldn't need to be addressed, but common sense isn't very common anymore
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:18 AM   #37
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Well Iím off the lease.

Turns out they gave me the boot because I ďtake this too seriouslyĒ and they are just looking to hang out and have a good time. Aka drink and shoot deer from camp.

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You might be surprised how many good deer are killed off places of around 50 acres...might want to consider buying instead of leasing but I wish you well sir!
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:22 AM   #38
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ugh all of that sounds awful. Maybe tell the lease owner? Really there should be some basic rules since there are probably guys that don't know any better. That should be on the lease owner though. They should spell them out real clearly so that all of their tenants are happy.
A lot of the times the lease owner doesnít want to hear that drama. If I own land, and you come to me crying because you canít get along with grown men then I know who Iím getting rid of first. Our lease owner is that way. We have a lease manager specifically so the owner doesnít have to deal with lease drama. The owner made it clear of that.

Everyone on our place deer hunts but me. Iím a hog and varmint hunter. I sit back at camp and drink beer during deer season most of the time. The day season is over Iím running around killing **** again. No night hunting at all during deer season, and limited day calling only if no one else is around that weekend. But I enjoy being out regardless if I get to hunt, so I still go out even when I have to just sit back and watch. I usually end up helping top off feeders, or some other chores around camp just for entertainment though. Still beats being in town.
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:24 AM   #39
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Well Iím off the lease.

Turns out they gave me the boot because I ďtake this too seriouslyĒ and they are just looking to hang out and have a good time. Aka drink and shoot deer from camp.

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Man, did they give you the boot and your season is gone or are they allowing you to finish the season out? Seems a bit harsh but, itís going to work out better for you in the end. Good luck with the lease hunt, Iím right there with you for the Ď20-Ď21 season lease hunt.

Whereís ol boy that use to have a lease thread, I know they banned him!!!
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:27 AM   #40
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I need my own place too. Lets get a place together and I'll only hunt your area when you're not there ! Deal ?
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:28 AM   #41
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We just brought on a new member on and he is looking to setup a blind.......400 yards from my setup. since thats "where the big ones are"
I have a couple of those guys on my lease. Funny thing is, my spot was open for the taking before I got on the lease.
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:37 AM   #42
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This is where lease rules are necessary to keep guys like that looking elsewhere. Sucks man.

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Old 11-20-2019, 10:38 AM   #43
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I bought a little 40 acre tree farm 1hr 40min from the house. Killed this guy Tuesday. You have NO idea how much nicer it is when you do your own thing. I used to lease close to where I bought land and was sick of the rules only applying to certain people and all the BS. You better believe staying quiet and stealthy helped me get this guy.
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:42 AM   #44
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I run a lease in Harper and I feel your pain. We have had guys leave the lease because I hunt the way you do and I kill good deer. They drive to their stands, hunt the wrong winds, get there late and leave early but I am somehow cheating and keeping all of the good deer on my side.....LOL. Good luck in the future.

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Old 11-20-2019, 10:47 AM   #45
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You can find lots of small places that have good setups naturally built in. My place is also only 40 acres, but there are close to 500 acres around me that aren't hunted and it's a very high density deer area (hill country). 500 acres like like 80 animals on average. I get begged to shoot more deer or bring friends by all my neighbors and have shot some very nice bucks.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:23 AM   #46
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You are on a vacation lease, ainít none of them fellers care about hunting. They just out there escaping work and home life.
My thoughts exactly. Just an escape from their own miserable home lives.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:54 AM   #47
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I had a lease MANAGER that would sleep in late and then zoom by my stand at 7:45, after I had been on the stand for 1.5 hours....

When I finally got sick of it, he got all butt hurt and tried to defend himself.....

We bailed on that lease fast.....and the deer were scarce anyway
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Old 11-20-2019, 12:35 PM   #48
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So this is my 3rd year on my lease and have to say it's getting a little challenging. There are 6 of us on 900 acres and it just seems like they have a completely different hunting style.

I am a quiet, get in the stand early and sit kind of guy and all these guys do is ride around in UTVs looking for deer pushing everything all over. Then come back to camp and complain that they see nothing.

Last year I put my time in and shot a nice 11 point buck. Biggest the camp has seen in years so I am told. Now all these guys want to do is drive near where I setup and look for a big one. I voice my opinions and am told to "take it easy we are all just having fun" I get in hours before sunrise then see them drive by my stand at 8:30......

We just brought on a new member on and he is looking to setup a blind.......400 yards from my setup. since thats "where the big ones are"

Rut is here and I am trying to plan my hunts and it's super difficult with this scenario. Our property has adjacent leases and all I do is hear shots going off like crazy since my members are pushing them all off.

So rant over. Next year I guess I will setup a little closer to the property line and not say anything.

Hard pass on that setup lol. Good luck
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Old 11-20-2019, 12:55 PM   #49
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Leases blow
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:00 PM   #50
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One of the best things I have ever done in my life is buy my own hunting property! Wasn't the easiest thing to do but well worth the trouble!
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