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Old 12-20-2018, 10:23 AM   #1
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Cool Secretary Zinke Out!

Geezus.........not even 18 months! I saw this earlier this week forgot to post it.
I really thought we (outdoorsman) had found our man to secure our hunting heritage. He definitely checked the box in every category. I guess the glam & glitter of DC got to him. Honestly, he was not helping himself in that sewer!
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:59 AM   #2
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Saw that. Seems to be a pattern of short-term employment with many high profile Trump hires/appointees.

I'm a member of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, and they issued a press release about Zinke's departure. I don't wholly agree with it. Anybody in that position is gonna have a hard team pleasing everyone.


News for Immediate Release
Dec. 15, 2018
Contact: Katie McKalip, 406-240-9262, mckalip@backcountryhunters.org

Missoula, Mont. - Following an announcement by the Trump administration of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke’s resignation, Backcountry Hunters & Anglers President and CEO Land Tawney offered the following response:

“Ryan Zinke came to the Interior Department with an ambitious vision for overseeing the nation’s great natural resources, but he ultimately broke his contract with the Americans people. His actions - such as undermining the federal Antiquities Act, diminishing good faith collaborative successes in sage grouse management, and pushing resource exploitation at the expense of conservation - eroded public goodwill.

“Our American public lands and waters are valuable beyond measure. Sportsmen and women have a special stake in enjoying them, conserving them and defending them. We do not want industrial interests dictating their management, and we will not stand for an administration that values the priorities of big business and a few deep pocketed individuals over the will of the citizenry.”
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Old 12-20-2018, 12:06 PM   #3
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Was a great dude for the position but I can only imagine what crap he dealt with in that crap hole...
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Old 12-20-2018, 02:05 PM   #4
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He had some conflicts of interest that were impairing his ability to remain independent and objective.

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The Democrats coming into the House in January were going to tear him up.

This is one, while I like the guy, is in the best interest for the cause of integrity for him to depart.
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Old 12-20-2018, 03:50 PM   #5
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Saw that. Seems to be a pattern of short-term employment with many high profile Trump hires/appointees.

I'm a member of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, and they issued a press release about Zinke's departure. I don't wholly agree with it. Anybody in that position is gonna have a hard team pleasing everyone.
I'm a member as well. Seems like anything he did was a negative to that group, but he was popular on most of the hunting forums I visit that didn't have to do with western hunting. You can say the same about Republicans in general.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:13 PM   #6
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Saw that. Seems to be a pattern of short-term employment with many high profile Trump hires/appointees.

I'm a member of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, and they issued a press release about Zinke's departure. I don't wholly agree with it. Anybody in that position is gonna have a hard team pleasing everyone.


News for Immediate Release
Dec. 15, 2018
Contact: Katie McKalip, 406-240-9262, mckalip@backcountryhunters.org

Missoula, Mont. - Following an announcement by the Trump administration of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke’s resignation, Backcountry Hunters & Anglers President and CEO Land Tawney offered the following response:

“Ryan Zinke came to the Interior Department with an ambitious vision for overseeing the nation’s great natural resources, but he ultimately broke his contract with the Americans people. His actions - such as undermining the federal Antiquities Act, diminishing good faith collaborative successes in sage grouse management, and pushing resource exploitation at the expense of conservation - eroded public goodwill.

“Our American public lands and waters are valuable beyond measure. Sportsmen and women have a special stake in enjoying them, conserving them and defending them. We do not want industrial interests dictating their management, and we will not stand for an administration that values the priorities of big business and a few deep pocketed individuals over the will of the citizenry.”
Yep. That group has been on SCIs radar as it appears there funding is coming from a greenie leaning towards ANTI group. It was a odd alliance that i hope to learn more about very soon.
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He had some conflicts of interest that were impairing his ability to remain independent and objective.

AP Article

The Democrats coming into the House in January were going to tear him up.

This is one, while I like the guy, is in the best interest for the cause of integrity for him to depart.
Thx as i did not want to be negative as he was a good fit but some of those decisions were downright BAD.
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I'm a member as well. Seems like anything he did was a negative to that group, but he was popular on most of the hunting forums I visit that didn't have to do with western hunting. You can say the same about Republicans in general.
And that is what i noticed also. Anything western was always a negative battle. That group really intrigues me.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:40 PM   #7
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He was a fox guarding the hen house.

Y'all don't remember White Fish energy?

https://www.businessinsider.com/300-...-zinke-2017-10


Y'all see no issue or have a problem with this?

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Old 12-21-2018, 01:07 PM   #8
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He was a fox guarding the hen house.

Y'all don't remember White Fish energy?

https://www.businessinsider.com/300-...-zinke-2017-10


Y'all see no issue or have a problem with this?
Yes, that was one of the things that was discussed. Very odd agreements and associations.

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Old 12-23-2018, 11:18 AM   #9
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Some good discussion from our bow shooting brothers outside of Texas.

https://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforu...rum=36#4708553
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Old 12-23-2018, 12:57 PM   #10
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Some good discussion from our bow shooting brothers outside of Texas.

https://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforu...rum=36#4708553
Indeed it is!!!! I have read about half of that and will definitely READ IT ALL!!! The BHA group has a lot of folks paying attention to how they are evolving. They only have about 12 or 13K members as compared to SCI with over 50k but they definitely have social media savvy. Thanks a ton for sharing that as I will forward to about 7 non TBHers.
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Old 12-23-2018, 04:15 PM   #11
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Heck, I ended up commenting on that link you sent from Bowsite.
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Old 12-23-2018, 07:16 PM   #12
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Some good discussion from our bow shooting brothers outside of Texas.

https://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforu...rum=36#4708553
Good thread. Bowsite makes for an interesting discussion since the membership isn't regional.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:57 AM   #13
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Do you think breathing in burned mercury is harmful to your lungs?

Trump & Zinke thinks it is OK and is allowing you and your kids to breathe in more burned mercury.

Are you OK with that?
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Old 12-29-2018, 09:55 AM   #14
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Do you think breathing in burned mercury is harmful to your lungs?

Trump & Zinke thinks it is OK and is allowing you and your kids to breathe in more burned mercury.

Are you OK with that?
Huh?
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:16 AM   #15
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Being that I have a job that works closely with the National Park Service I actually thought that Zinke's early moves were good and spot on. He split the Service into regions that corresponded with the major watersheds of the US. The idea was to get these regions coordinating on conservation issues and practices. He then moved many Park Supervisors to new regions in order to get some folks out of roles that they were way to comfortable in. I really had high hopes for the guy but he really did not have enough time in the seat to see what he could get done.
I got to meet Sally Jewel. She didn't do a terrible job but her focus had nothing to do with hunting and access issues. She was a little too REI for my tastes.
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Being that I have a job that works closely with the National Park Service I actually thought that Zinke's early moves were good and spot on. He split the Service into regions that corresponded with the major watersheds of the US. The idea was to get these regions coordinating on conservation issues and practices. He then moved many Park Supervisors to new regions in order to get some folks out of roles that they were way to comfortable in. I really had high hopes for the guy but he really did not have enough time in the seat to see what he could get done.
I got to meet Sally Jewel. She didn't do a terrible job but her focus had nothing to do with hunting and access issues. She was a little too REI for my tastes.
How do you feel about his wife traveling for free on taxpayers dime and then Zinke lieing about it and trying to cover it up?
DOJ is looking at indicting him over that right now.
They are libtards I know.
Who is the head of/runs the DOJ again?


Why would this Republican lead administration feed one of their own to the wolves?
Was Zinke actually Swamp Bait?
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Old 01-03-2019, 06:59 PM   #17
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I’m still waiting on the burned mercury comment.
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I’m still waiting on the burned mercury comment.
https://www.laboratoryequipment.com/...ry-regulations
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:53 AM   #19
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I’m still waiting on the burned mercury comment.
The dems want to eliminate the coal-fired power plants that make the cheapest electricity because of miniscule amounts of mercury but they also protest fracking which makes natural gas a viable, cost-effective alternative to coal. They sue to prevent pipelines from being built that deliver energy commodities like natural gas and crude to refineries and markets safely and efficiently. Don't even mention nuclear or they get hysterical.

Ironically, they do this while encouraging everyone to drive a Prius to reduce global warming and pushing legislation that props up unreliable renewables like solar and wind despite the higher cost and the fact that Prius batteries require tons of rare-earth minerals that are mined in 3rd world countries who don't care about mining damage to the earth.

The net result is they want to restrict your use of power, greatly raise the cost, and reduce your standard of living. All so they can feel good about themselves and that they are "doing something for the environment".

Idiots.
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:38 AM   #20
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How do you feel about his wife traveling for free on taxpayers dime and then Zinke lieing about it and trying to cover it up?
DOJ is looking at indicting him over that right now.
They are libtards I know.
Who is the head of/runs the DOJ again?


Why would this Republican lead administration feed one of their own to the wolves?
Was Zinke actually Swamp Bait?
He dug his own hole. He is out. What more is there to say. Doesn't change the fact that I would have liked to see where he was headed in the office. I'm over it.
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:50 PM   #21
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I don't feel as bad about him lying as I do about Hillary and Obama lying thousands of times and the justice department not doing any thing about it.
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