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Old 12-20-2018, 08:06 PM   #101
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House just approved 5.7b for wall
Thx for update.............SENATE is on the clock!!!!
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Thx for update.............SENATE is on the clock!!!!


Curious to see how that shakes out. Interesting times for sure
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Senate better pass the **** thing
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Senate better pass the **** thing
For the best of our country i agree. Gridlock and separation of Americans is only going to embolden our REAL enemies.........which are many!
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Lol....Trump crawfished on his crawfish!

Wait till the last minute, then pull the plug!
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For the best of our country i agree. Gridlock and separation of Americans is only going to embolden our REAL enemies.........which are many!
And their puppets work in DC.
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They need 60 votes that would mean democrats would have to vote across party lines ??
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:38 PM   #108
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$9,118,868 Raised by 150,154 people in 3 days

This thing is gonna be over $10 mil tonight
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Exactly, thus somewhere along the lines the amount money and miles have gotten convoluted. Does someone have the EXACT number this BARRIER would cost?
Well amigo, just think about how our govt spends $$$ vs what the private sector could build it for...we know mas/menos what it costs per mile for a basic HF set up!!

Obviously each area is going to have her own challenges & costs but gonna be substantial regardless & IMHO $5b doesn't seem crazy if placed in the areas where it does the job. I did a quick search on the cost & it's all over the place / covers a big window so who knows for sure. Some guessed $70b to do most of the 3k miles where feasible & saw another estimate of $3.1mm per mile??

5 billion he is asking for was less than 1% of the budget...honestly, when we get into the multi trillion budgets, it's beyond me getting into that sort of jack.
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$9,118,868 Raised by 150,154 people in 3 days

This thing is gonna be over $10 mil tonight
They already are figuring ways around it.

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Well amigo, just think about how our govt spends $$$ vs what the private sector could build it for...we know mas/menos what it costs per mile for a basic HF set up!!



Obviously each area is going to have her own challenges & costs but gonna be substantial regardless & IMHO $5b doesn't seem crazy if placed in the areas where it does the job. I did a quick search on the cost & it's all over the place / covers a big window so who knows for sure. Some guessed $70b to do most of the 3k miles where feasible & saw another estimate of $3.1mm per mile??



5 billion he is asking for was less than 1% of the budget...honestly, when we get into the multi trillion budgets, it's beyond me getting into that sort of jack.
Very sobering numbers sir, very sobering indeed!

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Well amigo, just think about how our govt spends $$$ vs what the private sector could build it for...we know mas/menos what it costs per mile for a basic HF set up!!

Obviously each area is going to have her own challenges & costs but gonna be substantial regardless & IMHO $5b doesn't seem crazy if placed in the areas where it does the job. I did a quick search on the cost & it's all over the place / covers a big window so who knows for sure. Some guessed $70b to do most of the 3k miles where feasible & saw another estimate of $3.1mm per mile??

5 billion he is asking for was less than 1% of the budget...honestly, when we get into the multi trillion budgets, it's beyond me getting into that sort of jack.
For many parts of the Border geography acts as a natural border, i.e. falcon , Amistad. ... But some parts in Texas and Arizona and Cali is as simple as crossing a downed.. We have secure the most vulnerable crossings.

I had a Client tell me we should build the American Canal connecting the gulf with Pacific. Long term that might be a good idea.

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Old 12-20-2018, 10:20 PM   #113
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So you are saying there IS a wall going up currently that Mexico IS paying for, Kavanaugh's name IS on the original judges list, and issuing an executive order banning bumpstocks IS pro Second Amendment. Hmmm, seems like it depends on what the definition of IS, is. I think Bill Clinton may be looking for a staff member, you should apply
Yep all of the above is true.
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He's on Ingraham Angle right now!!

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Yep all of the above is true.
Yep your Bill's kind of guy alright
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Old 12-21-2018, 06:21 AM   #116
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Seen an article this morning that says the gofundme money will not get released to the government unless a bill is passed before January to accept it.

After January, Democrats will not approve a bill to use donated money to build the wall.

I hope Trump starts talking about this soon. The media does not want to hear about it.

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Old 12-21-2018, 06:25 AM   #117
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Old 12-21-2018, 08:03 AM   #118
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There sure seems to be a lot of negativity regarding this effort. Does no one feel or believe that Trump has made good on lots of his promises? I couldnít imagine being where that guy is right now. Heís fighting everyone and it seems like his own people will throw him under the bus. I admire the veteran for undertaking such a task and Iíll support his effort in every way I can. Sure, Trump has spouted off and claimed he will have the Mexican govít build the wall, but we all know that ainít gonna happen. Congress isnít going to support it because there are millions of prospective Democrats just chomping at the bits to cross the border and hop on the gravy train. If itís gonna be done, thereís gonnna have to be a strong show of support from ďWe The PeopleĒ. As of just a little bit ago, the page had already raised $1,807,729 and itís only been up for a couple of days. If everyone would stop complaining about the problem, and start being part of the solution, our kids and grandkids will be able to enjoy a life like we have. God bless us all and Merry Christmas
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Seen an article this morning that says the gofundme money will not get released to the government unless a bill is passed before January to accept it.

After January, Democrats will not approve a bill to use donated money to build the wall.

I hope Trump starts talking about this soon. The media does not want to hear about it.
That money does not need to actually go to the gov. Because it will disappear never to be seen again
It needs to be used to purchase wall easements from current land owners if the gov. Has not already gotten that done. This money if actually given to gov will likely be used for maps and water stations for the illegals and not used to stop them.
Government has no desire to stop these people.
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Yep your Bill's kind of guy alright
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Kavanaugh was on the list, bump stocks ban is not a infringement on the 2nd admendment, and one way or the other Mexico WILL pay for the wall!!!
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Old 12-21-2018, 03:39 PM   #121
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That money does not need to actually go to the gov. Because it will disappear never to be seen again
It needs to be used to purchase wall easements from current land owners if the gov. Has not already gotten that done. This money if actually given to gov will likely be used for maps and water stations for the illegals and not used to stop them.
Government has no desire to stop these people.
Lotta truth to that. Once the Gubmint gets thru skimming off the cream there won't be enough left for a 3 ft picket fence.
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Old 12-21-2018, 06:11 PM   #122
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Looks like Pence broke the tie for the bill to pass the Senate.
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Old 12-21-2018, 06:20 PM   #123
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Looks like Pence broke the tie for the bill to pass the Senate.
Well I be dang. Bipartisanship still exists???

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Looks like Pence broke the tie for the bill to pass the Senate.
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what happens with all of this money for go fund me WALL if the db's in D.C. don't approve a wall being built at all?
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Guess that did not happen. 4 1/2 hours till shutdown.....

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Guess that did not happen. 4 1/2 hours till shutdown.....

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Yeah I couldnt find anything, that's why I was asking for a souce to his statement.
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Thereís plenty of footage showing Democrats a few years ago talking about how we need better border security etc etc etc. My how their tune has changed since Trump was elected... so donít bring that bipartisanship bs around here!
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:15 PM   #130
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Looks like a false alarm. I got an update saying this but I canít find it anymore. Looks like someone reported it wrong and then redacted it.


Edit: I had my facts wrong

Pence breaks Senate tie in favor of moving forward with consideration of House-passed funding bill

On Friday, Vice President Mike Pence broke the tie in the U.S. Senate in favor of moving forward with consideration of House-passed funding bill.


https://globalnews.ca/video/4787563/...d-funding-bill

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Thereís plenty of footage showing Democrats a few years ago talking about how we need better border security etc etc etc. My how their tune has changed since Trump was elected... so donít bring that bipartisanship bs around here!
U might want to read the entire conversation in context......my ? was sarcasm!

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Kavanaugh was on the list, bump stocks ban is not a infringement on the 2nd admendment, and one way or the other Mexico WILL pay for the wall!!!
Fact Kavanaugh was not on the first list of 11, he was added later, Bump stocks being banned is definitely an infringement on the Second amendment, and what do you think Mexico is gonna pay for the wall out of the 10 or so billion we are giving them in aid? That is not really Mexico paying for the wall. I think the phone is ringing and Bill is returning your call for a job hahaha

PS I notice Hillary ain't in jail and we still have Obama care, both of which Trump lied about too. And don't give me the its congresses fault, if he would have pushed it hard enough and played it right those things would have happened. He is a liar, just like the rest of them. He just happens to be our liar.....which sucks

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Old 12-21-2018, 11:41 PM   #133
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Old 12-22-2018, 01:04 AM   #134
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How many years have we heard about “technology” as a solution. Governor Perry wouid say that when people wouid bring up a wall / fencing.

Exactly what magical technology is going to stop illegal crossings? Nothing!
More drones so we can have video?

I’m sick of hearing the word “technology” thrown out as the talking point.

If the money raised doesn’t go for the wall it should be used for charter buses to take the people crossing illegally to the politician’s houses that voted against a wall. Then use it to buy tents and they can stay in their yards. Of course they will need ladders as well to get them over their walls and fences!
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That money does not need to actually go to the gov. Because it will disappear never to be seen again
It needs to be used to purchase wall easements from current land owners if the gov. Has not already gotten that done. This money if actually given to gov will likely be used for maps and water stations for the illegals and not used to stop them.
Government has no desire to stop these people.
^^^This!!^^^

Over 14 million now with an average of $60 per donation. If it got any media attention the money would really pour in.
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I'm watching NBC news this morning and they are saying no such thing. Shutdown started last night at midnight.

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I am in for $100.
This may not reach its $1B goal, but if it gets to $50M, I bet it will make some politicians rethink their position on the wall/border security.
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I am in for $100.
This may not reach its $1B goal, but if it gets to $50M, I bet it will make some politicians rethink their position on the wall/border security.
50 mil will make any politician try to figure a way to skim some of it off the top. Once the pot sweetens to their liking they will be all over it.
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Fact Kavanaugh was not on the first list of 11, he was added later, Bump stocks being banned is definitely an infringement on the Second amendment, and what do you think Mexico is gonna pay for the wall out of the 10 or so billion we are giving them in aid? That is not really Mexico paying for the wall. I think the phone is ringing and Bill is returning your call for a job hahaha

PS I notice Hillary ain't in jail and we still have Obama care, both of which Trump lied about too. And don't give me the its congresses fault, if he would have pushed it hard enough and played it right those things would have happened. He is a liar, just like the rest of them. He just happens to be our liar.....which sucks
Well thereís no use in arguing with you, weíre all on the same side. Just hope for the best moving forward.
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50 mil will make any politician try to figure a way to skim some of it off the top. Once the pot sweetens to their liking they will be all over it.
Beto may even start to be for the wall haha
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Fact Kavanaugh was not on the first list of 11, he was added later, Bump stocks being banned is definitely an infringement on the Second amendment, and what do you think Mexico is gonna pay for the wall out of the 10 or so billion we are giving them in aid? That is not really Mexico paying for the wall. I think the phone is ringing and Bill is returning your call for a job hahaha

PS I notice Hillary ain't in jail and we still have Obama care, both of which Trump lied about too. And don't give me the its congresses fault, if he would have pushed it hard enough and played it right those things would have happened. He is a liar, just like the rest of them. He just happens to be our liar.....which sucks
I figured that out concerning politicians awhile ago also. The FIX is IN and the American middle class is the biggest pawn. For some reason we keep hoping it changes for the better...Ö.or the worse in some circles. Politics is a business and has been for decades.
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Hope the money is used for private land owners that are tired of the traffic. No need for government approval.


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18 million and counting! We The People have spoken!


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If they call JJW they'll top $100M before the new year
He did $40M on his own for Harvey
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Co-worker and I were discussing starting a GoFundMe crusade to buy Greyhound bus tickets for all the illegals that were dumped in El Paso. Tickets from El Paso to San Francisco are around $250 one way. We figured we'd put a $700K goal to have enough money to send 2500 illegals to Nancy Pelosi's 12th District in San Francisco.

She wants open borders, loves illegals and gets them out of Texas. Win/Win
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Co-worker and I were discussing starting a GoFundMe crusade to buy Greyhound bus tickets for all the illegals that were dumped in El Paso. Tickets from El Paso to San Francisco are around $250 one way. We figured we'd put a $700K goal to have enough money to send 2500 illegals to Nancy Pelosi's 12th District in San Francisco.

She wants open borders, loves illegals and gets them out of Texas. Win/Win


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He is supposed to be making some sort of "major" announcement this week.
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Looks like people will get their money back.


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