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Old 11-08-2018, 07:01 AM   #51
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I can agree with this to the point that only works on the ignorant. I could run on free healthcare, fee higher education for everyone with a masters in 6 months, all immigrants welcome, and free gas for everyone. It sounds great and absolutely would be until I have to explain how all this ďfreeĒ stuff is going to be paid for. Ahhhhhh, itís not free after all. But Iíll just tax big business and all successful people to death. Until their dead. Oh, and letís not forget all Republicans ar wold white racist males, never mind the most liberal cities Iíve been to are the most segregated places Iíve ever seen.
Nobody ever explained how Mexico will pay for that wall.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:35 AM   #52
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I am all in for a competency test before you can vote. Standard 10 question test..


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Old 11-08-2018, 08:09 AM   #54
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:06 AM   #55
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:07 AM   #56
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I have always liked to Starship Troopers idea of National Service for voting rights.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:28 AM   #58
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Im fortunate both of my millenial sons are staunch conservatives. They shake their heads at most of their generation.
Iím a millennial by birthdate but not at all by my views. Iím with your kids!
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:29 AM   #59
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Nobody ever explained how Mexico will pay for that wall.
Ironic don't you think....considering you refuse to explain how "free college for all" will not use nor raise our tax money.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:29 AM   #60
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Nobody ever explained how Mexico will pay for that wall.
Pay for the wall by cutting all US aid to Mexico. Restrict US tourism. The United States drives their GDP and economy.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:30 AM   #61
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If you want an educated electorate you can start by removing any and all party affiliations from the ballot. Just names...and no straight party voting. Make people research their candidates and I guarantee:
1. There will (unfortunately) be much fewer votes (at least for the first few elections)
2. Elections won't be as tightly split along the 2 party system
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:30 AM   #62
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I, unfortunately, am lumped in with millennials by default. It really chaps my arse when folks remind me of that. I don't share anything in common with a stereotypical millennial.

Me and you both brotha. It wears me out every single time I hear it, but it does make me laugh when itís the generation about us making fun of millennials. Who raised us? Nobody seems to want to take the blame for it.


I grew up in the age of participation trophies, but I never once was allowed to keep one. My dad made sure they went away and that i got a little talk every time I received one.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:04 AM   #63
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If you want an educated electorate you can start by removing any and all party affiliations from the ballot. Just names...and no straight party voting. Make people research their candidates and I guarantee:
1. There will (unfortunately) be much fewer votes (at least for the first few elections)
2. Elections won't be as tightly split along the 2 party system
I like this idea, although I don't ever see it happening. I just read a statistic that 75% of Harris County voters straight ticket (of those, 55/45 D/R split).

Also, I personally think that blaming the education system for "brainwashing" students is a bit of a stretch. I'm interested how many folks that believe this actually attended college.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:15 AM   #64
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Also, I personally think that blaming the education system for "brainwashing" students is a bit of a stretch. I'm interested how many folks that believe this actually attended college.
Way too much evidence to the contrary. Reports abound of students' parents clashing with teachers who try to indoctrinate the kids and even give failing grades to those who don't see it their way. Happens from grade school all the way through college. I have grandkids in college and one who is now a school teacher that I hear it from as well. They just keep a low profile in order to get along since they are on the conservative side. Sad that they have to do this but it's real.
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Also, I personally think that blaming the education system for "brainwashing" students is a bit of a stretch. I'm interested how many folks that believe this actually attended college.
I never felt like I was indoctrinated (politically) when I was going through school. I canít recall even a single time that I felt like someone was preaching to me. Yes, some teachers and professors had views that were different than mine, but that was never an issue. Thatís just life?

Iím a millennial and I consider myself a moderate. I vote for the candidate that I feel best represents my community and myself. I believe that both of the parties have & will give us about the same result. The left would get rid of guns about as fast as the right would get rid of abortion. They know those types of issues polarize uninformed, single issue voters and theyíre not going to touch them.

Iíve worked and paid taxes under two republican administrations and one democratic administration and I can tell right around zero difference in my daily life. I think millennials are a lot more in tune with sniffing out ďfake newsĒ than older generations that really have a hard time differentiating or looking at things without considering the bias.
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:04 PM   #66
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2. Elections won't be as tightly split along the 2 party system
This seems to be a reasonable idea. Doubt it ever happens though.
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:23 PM   #67
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Nobody ever explained how Mexico will pay for that wall.
Pivot much?


Iíll tell you how we can pay for the wall, but itís going to take some giving from you. We set up a couple national registries, one to build the wall. Everyone who wants the wall built can sign up to donate or pay $X amount more in taxes a year to build the wall. The second registry will be for your kind, you sign up to take full responsibility for anyone here or coming here illegally. You fund their housing, schooling, medical, insurance, taxes and any other needs that may arise. Iím willing to pay more for the wall, are you willing to pay for open borders? Iíd bet that wall would get built, rust, and rebuilt 3 times before your like minded people pooled enough together to fund 10 illegals.
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Just have the Mexicans pay for the wall. Slap a 5% tax on every money wire transfer that goes from the US to Mexico.... 2017 $26B was headed south, 2016 $24B went south...
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:58 PM   #69
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This seems to be a reasonable idea. Doubt it ever happens though.
Not with that attitude

Seriously though, I've brought this idea up to a few dozen people spanning a wide political spectrum and every single person seems to think it a reasonable idea. The only problem is our 2 party system would torpedo it in a heart beat...too much money tied up in keeping things divided

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Old 11-08-2018, 04:46 PM   #70
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So I normally don't weigh in on these things but its my bday and I don't want to work right now.... lol

I am an older Millennial ('85) and I feel like I am surrounded by libs that are my age and younger.

I think the main reason (not all) are just ignorant and get hung up on a few issues that touch them and then they jump on the dem bandwagon. Think about it, most young people have huge school debt, the libs use this and a tactic to lure. Nothing wrong with weed, right, well those old crusty conservative want to tell you, you can't have it.

The dems paint the republicans out to be old money that just gets richer while you struggle and they get all the breaks. SO many buy into this. SO many do not understand that all the promisses from the lib side CANNOT come true without a socialist style government. The problem is MOST cannot describe what a socialist government is. I'm serious.... I have been told its LESS government and more money in MY pocket.

I truly believe this is why so many young are falling into the dem crowd, they just simply do not understand what more government means, what it takes to support handouts. They buy into feel good lip service from the dems and it is a **** shame they cannot see past this and apply simple economics to the BS that is always promised.

Anyhow, back to work I GUESS. Carry on
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Nobody ever explained how Mexico will pay for that wall.
well we can start with cutting off their foreign aid and using it, along with the other s holes to the south of them that are purging their countries of their derelicts.
it would probably build a few miles of the wall. you reckon?
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:53 PM   #72
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Just have the Mexicans pay for the wall. Slap a 5% tax on every money wire transfer that goes from the US to Mexico.... 2017 $26B was headed south, 2016 $24B went south...
Slap a 50% tax
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:58 PM   #73
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So I normally don't weigh in on these things but its my bday and I don't want to work right now.... lol

I am an older Millennial ('85) and I feel like I am surrounded by libs that are my age and younger.

I think the main reason (not all) are just ignorant and get hung up on a few issues that touch them and then they jump on the dem bandwagon. Think about it, most young people have huge school debt, the libs use this and a tactic to lure. Nothing wrong with weed, right, well those old crusty conservative want to tell you, you can't have it.

The dems paint the republicans out to be old money that just gets richer while you struggle and they get all the breaks. SO many buy into this. SO many do not understand that all the promisses from the lib side CANNOT come true without a socialist style government. The problem is MOST cannot describe what a socialist government is. I'm serious.... I have been told its LESS government and more money in MY pocket.

I truly believe this is why so many young are falling into the dem crowd, they just simply do not understand what more government means, what it takes to support handouts. They buy into feel good lip service from the dems and it is a **** shame they cannot see past this and apply simple economics to the BS that is always promised.

Anyhow, back to work I GUESS. Carry on
Your right in much of this. They. Ant understand the economics of it because they have never been told or taught anything about economics....by design. Keeping them ignorant keeps them falling for pure stupidity. Parents are not doing a good enough job teaching their kids, gov. Schools are absolutely not going to or are not allowed to teach these young people.. I work with a lot of 20' and 30 something folks and not one is interested in politics in the least. I always tell them that political decisions will always touch their wallet....they still dont care.
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Your right in much of this. They. Ant understand the economics of it because they have never been told or taught anything about economics....by design. Keeping them ignorant keeps them falling for pure stupidity. Parents are not doing a good enough job teaching their kids, gov. Schools are absolutely not going to or are not allowed to teach these young people.. I work with a lot of 20' and 30 something folks and not one is interested in politics in the least. I always tell them that political decisions will always touch their wallet....they still dont care.
Back in the 2016 Bernie day, I asked a simple question to many of my facebook friends (libs). I asked: "Are you ok with a FIFTY PERCENT income tax?? Because that is what it will take to fund what he promises" Not one response.

And to those that really are ok with that and want everyone equal and free this and that, to each their own, but at least know what the eff you are voting for/stand for.
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Iíll tell you how we can pay for the wall, but itís going to take some giving from you. We set up a couple national registries, one to build the wall. Everyone who wants the wall built can sign up to donate or pay $X amount more in taxes a year to build the wall. The second registry will be for your kind, you sign up to take full responsibility for anyone here or coming here illegally. You fund their housing, schooling, medical, insurance, taxes and any other needs that may arise. Iím willing to pay more for the wall, are you willing to pay for open borders? Iíd bet that wall would get built, rust, and rebuilt 3 times before your like minded people pooled enough together to fund 10 illegals.
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:37 PM   #76
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Well, why not get educated and ****in vote next time.
I'll give you a little education right now.
Every decision made in D.C has either a positive or negative impact on your personal bank account.
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Iíll tell you how we can pay for the wall, but itís going to take some giving from you. We set up a couple national registries, one to build the wall. Everyone who wants the wall built can sign up to donate or pay $X amount more in taxes a year to build the wall. The second registry will be for your kind, you sign up to take full responsibility for anyone here or coming here illegally. You fund their housing, schooling, medical, insurance, taxes and any other needs that may arise. Iím willing to pay more for the wall, are you willing to pay for open borders? Iíd bet that wall would get built, rust, and rebuilt 3 times before your like minded people pooled enough together to fund 10 illegals.
Ouch! Hit em where it hurts. Right on their truth nerve.
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Everyone keeps talking about libetals moving into the state but I believe the Millennials are the largest liberal voting block. Many youngsters I know were born and raised in Texas with conservative parents are voting liberal.

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Yes, agree..
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Young people are voting liberal because of how poorly the baby boomers and generation X managed the wealth of post world war 2 America. If you want to more young conservatives, become the party of regan and unity, instead he f what the party is today. Also I vote red in case anyone is going to call me a liberal.
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Young people are voting liberal because of how poorly the baby boomers and generation X managed the wealth of post world war 2 America. If you want to more young conservatives, become the party of regan and unity, instead he f what the party is today. Also I vote red in case anyone is going to call me a liberal.
I dont see how any of that makes since^^^^^^^
I think a slightly better reason might be that liberals of the last 50 years have slowly created an atmosphere of
1. There is no right or wrong
2. There is no morality....its what you want it to be
3. Compitition is only good when everyone win's
4. Everyone has a right to free.......and you can name anything you want from here
5. Like Limbaugh says, it's hard to compete with Santa Clause^^^^^^^^^^^^
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This is the problem with people of bias ...
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My GF's son 23 is staying with us has been here for 7 months I gave him until end of Dec to get his crap sorted out ( going to EMT school right now) . he moved from OR .

The stuff he says just makes me shake my head .. To the point on the way back from the Lease in Cisco I told him to STFU or I was dropping him on I -20 This was right about the smoke stack area .

The opinions they have make no sense , what they want for free makes no sense the world is against them I know I could listen more and try to explain it but the attitude you get back and their source of info is so skewed its not funny .

They see a tiny little FB post and they are all over it they NEVER research anything , or they just google something and after 2 minutes they know it all .


Everything is stupid if it does not go alone with free ,

after me loosing my cool it Was a nice quiet drive from then on . But he did learn from that . I can give him that . what he learned well I do not even ask .


less than 17 days and he is out of my house HA HA
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This is the problem with people of bias ...
Does this happen with anybody else?

First pic is a screen shot of JJ's post, second one is a screen shot of the video.

Anybody else notice a difference in Barrys shirt? Not that he tucked it into his sweet pants, like a ****, but something else. Say the words on the shirt. Great that we can dig up Barry playing hoops with high school kids, one has a pony tail, maybe they can find his transcripts now.
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I never felt like I was indoctrinated (politically) when I was going through school. I canít recall even a single time that I felt like someone was preaching to me. Yes, some teachers and professors had views that were different than mine, but that was never an issue. Thatís just life?



Iím a millennial and I consider myself a moderate. I vote for the candidate that I feel best represents my community and myself. I believe that both of the parties have & will give us about the same result. The left would get rid of guns about as fast as the right would get rid of abortion. They know those types of issues polarize uninformed, single issue voters and theyíre not going to touch them.



Iíve worked and paid taxes under two republican administrations and one democratic administration and I can tell right around zero difference in my daily life. I think millennials are a lot more in tune with sniffing out ďfake newsĒ than older generations that really have a hard time differentiating or looking at things without considering the bias.


You are sadly mistaken about the guns vs abortion issue.

If Democrats has enough control they would do everything they could to limit access to weapons.

I donít think they will come forcibly take them en massť but they will incrementally pass and enforce more regulations and taxes to make it more difficult. Not to mention the population as a whole is being indoctrinated that guns are evil and only crazy people want or have them. Then thereís the ďred flagĒ laws. Thereís already been people killed by LE when they refused to turn over their guns.


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This seems to be a reasonable idea. Doubt it ever happens though.


It wouldnít matter. All they hear is what they can get for free. They donít care whoís mouth itís coming from.


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Young people are voting liberal because of how poorly the baby boomers and generation X managed the wealth of post world war 2 America. If you want to more young conservatives, become the party of regan and unity, instead he f what the party is today. Also I vote red in case anyone is going to call me a liberal.


The inconvenient truth about Reagan is he was a moderate at best. He was good for the economy overall; kinda like Trump donít you think?


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Does this happen with anybody else?

First pic is a screen shot of JJ's post, second one is a screen shot of the video.

Anybody else notice a difference in Barrys shirt? Not that he tucked it into his sweet pants, like a ****, but something else. Say the words on the shirt. Great that we can dig up Barry playing hoops with high school kids, one has a pony tail, maybe they can find his transcripts now.
Just furthering the point - I know it doesnt seem like it, but he played more than one game of basketball. Multiple photos/videos exist.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2008/4/25/503705/-

They werent even HS kids. Not that it matters.
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The game unfolded for about 20 minutes, with every rebound, dribble and shot of Mr. Obamaís being captured on camera. (And, if the campaign gets its wish, on front pages across Indiana tomorrow.) Several dozen fans watched from the bleachers, as well as a retinue of Secret Service and a couple paramedics from the Kokomo Fire Department.

Ha, so how many games did they splice together for to the 1:30 minute long highlight reel?

Talk about people with biases
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The game unfolded for about 20 minutes, with every rebound, dribble and shot of Mr. Obamaís being captured on camera. (And, if the campaign gets its wish, on front pages across Indiana tomorrow.) Several dozen fans watched from the bleachers, as well as a retinue of Secret Service and a couple paramedics from the Kokomo Fire Department.

Ha, so how many games did they splice together for to the 1:30 minute long highlight reel?

Talk about people with biases
Just when you think it's only a political bias - my reference to more than one game, was that he has played more than one game.

He in fact has played more than one game of basketball. Comprehension matters.
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Old 12-14-2018, 02:39 PM   #90
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I just watched the highlights again, the video starts with the below, and sure leads the viewer to believe that it is one game.

And there were high schoolers that he was playing -

The winner in the high school division, Blake Hancock, and in the college division, Kory McKay, brought along a few friends and played with Mr. Obama tonight. It was the first time during the presidential campaign that Mr. Obama has opened his basketball game up to network cameras, photographers and reporters.

I saw a few pretty blatant travels by Barry too, specifically at 0:27 and 1:02
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Yes maíam, unfortunately. My daughter is one I hate to say. For the life of me I cannot understand their ďlogicĒ behind it all.


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Youíre not alone man. She believes in social issues, but doesnít understand that bad goes along with good.


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What insurance company do you have? I pay $12K per year premium with a $3K family deductible. My cost has tripled since barakcare was forced on us.


I pay $600/month for family if 6, but deductible is $6000. We donít hit $6k and just throwing money out the window!


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Yep, most our age voted for Obama because he played basketball, was cool, and most importantly knew how to sound smart talking about nothing.


and they voted for Clinton cuz he played the sax on Arsenial Hall


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Millennial checking in and I donít vote. Iíve got better **** to do than vote.



Before anyone gets their tits in a bunch I donít watch the news or keep up with current events. If I donít catch it on TBH or tiger droppingís
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Millennial checking in and I donít vote. Iíve got better **** to do than vote.



Before anyone gets their tits in a bunch I donít watch the news or keep up with current events. If I donít catch it on TBH or tiger droppingís
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not voting is like an ostrich putting its head in the sand, ignoring anything does not make it go away,, take responsibility man up and cast a vote!

because you can be darn sure the stupid, uniformed and ignorant will go vote!! and they only vote one way,,, liberal... because they don't want to make a living and think it's the governments job is to take care of them,,, and not voting is electing to be a slave
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It's the schools. My oldest told me that she was voting for Clinton, in 2016. I asked her why, and she said because her govt teacher told her to. I told her that wasn't a good enough reason. I told her it was her decision on who she voted for, but she needs to have a better reason. We sat down and explained to her why I was voting for Trump. I don't know if I changed her mind, but I definitely gave her something to think about. Then she forgot and missed her change to vote anyway.
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I graduated high school in 1984 when I started my first real job my grandfather (who lived through the depression as a sharecropper) told me ďSon if youíre not a Democrat in your 20s you have no heart, if youíre not a Republican in your 50s you have no moneyĒ
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Millenial here just to say most kids that were in my age group were absolute idiots alot of the time, especially when it came to how they lacked the ability to think for themselves. I do think alot if it has to do with the baby boomer generation's handling of their kids onward and so how my generation's parents eventually taught kids. I mean nothing gets this way overnight. I remember being embarrassed about the way other parents and kids interacted. Those little things go togwther in forming how kids think. Add into that we've lost the ability for most kids to actually learn about a topic, they just google something and the fiest two articles they read are now irrefutable truth to them.

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How much do you pay for your auto insurance and how often do you make claims?
And how much are your insured vehicle(s) worth?
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Old 12-16-2018, 11:35 AM   #100
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How much do you pay for your auto insurance and how often do you make claims?
And how much are your insured vehicle(s) worth?
We pay enough to support the ones who dont have insurance very similar to health insurance!
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