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Old 01-12-2019, 07:53 PM   #1
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Drove up 287 to a funeral in Arlington today. Why is the area below Richland-Chambers so forbidden? I get no trepasing, but the signs made me think there is more to it???
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TCWB BS
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Think there is a WMA in there somewhere too.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:05 PM   #4
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Think there is a WMA in there somewhere too.
There is (or least thatís what I understand)? Is that it? The signs seem very serious! Lots of flooded timber behind those signs.
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If they have to open the flood gates on the resivoir that area can go under water quickly. They don’t have a warning system should someone be on the property.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:14 PM   #6
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If they have to open the flood gates on the resivoir that area can go under water quickly. They donít have a warning system should someone be on the property.

Makes sense. I was thinking there was something more to it, but that makes sense.
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The Trinity River also comes very close to the water release there at the dam. Not much room for sudden big-water releases.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:31 PM   #8
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The Trinity River also comes very close to the water release there at the dam. Not much room for sudden big-water releases.
Close is a relative term

Last time I was in that creek it was a good ways from the river until you hit the barrier and it is still a ways to the spillway gates past that


I imagine it has something to do with liability

WMA is a bit south of the forbidden zone and right up to the road on the nort side of 287

All I know for sure is you don't want to be caught there
Heard they don't give warnings if you are caught in there

You can sit on that pull off by the flood gates with a pair of binos or spotting scope and watch a lot of game. Sometimes catch a real good buck out there
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If they have to open the flood gates on the resivoir that area can go under water quickly. They donít have a warning system should someone be on the property.


This! And the zone backs directly up to the wma, that tree line in the back is border Of the wma


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Old 01-12-2019, 10:39 PM   #10
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Giants live there
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Some big deer there. I lived on RC for 8 years. Drove below thye **** there and saw some monstas there.
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I bet there is some GIANT deer in there.. I drove through there once and it looks like a likely place to hold some monster bucks.. Swampy..
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Not sure why they labeled it as the forbidden zone instead of just putting up No Trespassing signs. Anyrate, you dont want to get caught "trespassing" anywhere in the Forbidden Zone as it will cost you mucho dinero. I drove out behind the dam last weekend and have never seen that much water covering the Forbidden Area. All the gates were open on the dam and the whole place was under water. Like some others have already mentioned, there are some big azz deer walking the woods in that area
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:11 AM   #16
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I remember seeing that when the lake was new. Dissapointed me as I used to fish some other lakes tailraces for striper, hybrids, and sand bass. All the Ft. Worth lakes are cut off. Corps lakes aren't, but they are a lot more restricted after 9/11, than they used to be. Big fish in current is a lot of fun. 13 lb 12 oz. hybrid behind Lavon around 1990, my best hybrid, uncounted 30+ lb smallmouth buffalo. Orientals love to help you get those in. Give it to them and they pack their bucket and rod and go home.
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I'm convinced theres a missle silo or radioactive material buried back there Very Orwellian to have signs like that up in a free country, they should just change it to "the Verboten Zone"

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Old 01-13-2019, 01:52 PM   #18
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I've driven by there and seen LOTS of Nice bucks and huge hogs grazing out there.
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:05 PM   #19
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I used to fish RC a lot beginning back in the early 90’s. Don’t recall exactly the differences out there prior to 9-11. But there were no trespassing signs south of the dam.
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Thought you had fallen victim to the forbidden zone of the “hot/crazy matrix”....
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I've driven by there and seen LOTS of Nice bucks and huge hogs grazing out there.

Hey look. It's a gate to go through to get inside!


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It's a trap!

Way back when, when they had 2 weeks of archery at RC and 2 weeks at GE we would stay at GE in the screened shelters and drive back and forth to hunt RC

Many a night we saw some bruisers in the bar ditch between the river and FM488 headed back to camp

Been a few big bucks poached off of the forbidden zone over the years that made the news. Probably more that didn't get caught
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:40 AM   #25
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It's been a forbidden zone as long as Richland Chambers has been created. It does indeed flood when the Trinity is up, so there is a valid reason that it is deemed " Forbidden" . I was lucky enough to have 2 leases over the years that backed up to the WMA. When it flooded, deer over ran the surrounding deer leases and ranches like fire ants. What I dislike are the other fishing and wildlife viewing opportunities that were lost. For the first few years, fishing was allowed on the metal piers behind the gates, unless they had more than 3 gates open. Tarant County Water District quit leasing the pier out and shut down the fishing to the public. There was unbelievable fishing for hybrids and sandbass on the fast side and huge, barn door Crappie on the calm side. They shut it down because the novice fisherman kept knocking the lights out throwing heavy lead slabs and then there were the idiots that made campfires on the metal grates and damaged wiring. Up until a few seasons ago, they had a wildlife viewing off the side of the pavement on 488. It was a popular place to sit in your vehicle and watch the deer. With a spotting scope, you could get up close and personal to seeing true monster bucks and it was not uncommon to count hundreds of other deer. Spent a lot of fun times watching and was always shocked and awed. They quit mowing, supposidly for financial reasons and that pretty much shut down seeing any deer. Every time I pass by, I am reminded how much I dislike Tarrant County Water Management.
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I still see a "few selected" people fish behind there but never been invited.

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When I graduated college I interviewed for a job up there. It was for a research job with them to evaluate how different plants could filter and clean polluted water. There were "gardens" of these plants with water flowing through them in that Forbidden zone. With all the money they put into this research project they couldn't let the duck hunters walk through and destroy it. Also, the employees get to deer hunt the Forbidden zone.
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Also, the employees get to deer hunt the Forbidden zone.
Nope. Good friend of mine worked there for years. They have lots of land the employees and their guest get to hunt. But even the employees cannot go into the forbidden zone for recreation. This is why everyone talks about the giant deer there. No one hunts them.
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When I graduated college I interviewed for a job up there. It was for a research job with them to evaluate how different plants could filter and clean polluted water. There were "gardens" of these plants with water flowing through them in that Forbidden zone. With all the money they put into this research project they couldn't let the duck hunters walk through and destroy it. Also, the employees get to deer hunt the Forbidden zone.
Are you talking about the "North Zone" where all the duck marshes are or are you talking about the actual "forbidden zone"?

99% sure the only folks allowed in the forbidden zone are TCWD employees doing official work and oil company folks managing/maintaining the production wells.

I never heard of ANYONE having permission to hunt it. That does not mean there are not special folks that might.

Also that duck marsh is all set up to filter water before it is put back into the river. Not sure what it needs filtered for but that is what I understood And yes it is full of specific plants to do that work
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I am talking about the Forbidden Zone. I interviewed there and they showed me all the deer on the wall that were taken from the Forbidden zone. They said if I got the job, that was part of it. Maybe times have changed, but 20 years ago the employees got to hunt the forbidden zone.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:23 AM   #31
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I am talking about the Forbidden Zone. I interviewed there and they showed me all the deer on the wall that were taken from the Forbidden zone. They said if I got the job, that was part of it. Maybe times have changed, but 20 years ago the employees got to hunt the forbidden zone.
So, you interviewed to work for the Forbidden Zone? Besides the ability to shoot deer, what qualifications does one need to bring to the table to work there?
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I am talking about the Forbidden Zone. I interviewed there and they showed me all the deer on the wall that were taken from the Forbidden zone. They said if I got the job, that was part of it. Maybe times have changed, but 20 years ago the employees got to hunt the forbidden zone.
Man, I am not saying it wasnt true, but I have never heard of anyone being able to legally hunt in the FZ......anyone. Maybe a loooooong time ago it was different.
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Been a few big bucks poached off of the forbidden zone over the years that made the news. Probably more that didn't get caught
Never heard of a one making the news, there was that one big non-typical around 2000 that guy shot during the draw hunt but he was not drawn, he just slipped in there and hunted during it with everyone else (I've heard of this happening at hagerman too). When he took it to a taxidermist later that year someone noticed the buck, it was well known by the biologist on the WMA.
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There was one that was poached off the zone and they have him mounted and in the wma
The guy shot him from 488
Thatís what the guys (staff) told me at the wma. That deer was well known to all the locals and he was a hoss.

No one hunts the zone that I know for sure.

The water filtration project is on the north side and that water is filtered and then put back into the water supply at least that is what my understanding is.
The idea was that there is a lot of wasted water that simply flows out the trinity so why not use natural habitat to filter the water and at the same time get some recreational value from it. The water can be pumped into RC.
Could be wrong but I believe thatís what I remember reading on that project.


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A game warden took one with a bow that scored in the 170s. This was several years back. Not saying it was taken in the forbidden zone but just in general there are some good quality bucks in that WMA. I have a friend that used to bow hunt it back when it was walk in archery. He saw tons of deer & some good size bucks just never got a shot on one. There were too many hunters in there always pushing the deer on the move at least from his experience
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I drew GDE there about 5 years ago and missed the deadline to pay for my permit. 😢
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I am talking about the Forbidden Zone. I interviewed there and they showed me all the deer on the wall that were taken from the Forbidden zone. They said if I got the job, that was part of it. Maybe times have changed, but 20 years ago the employees got to hunt the forbidden zone.
It was not called the "Forbidden Zone" until after the lake filled up. Before then employees could hunt the property TCWB owned, which included RCWMA and the "Forbidden Zone". After it became the "Forbidden Zone" no one hunts there legally.

That might explain the statement above.

TCWB still owns land south of the RCWMA off Amerada Ranch Road in Freestone Co that employees hunt and a small piece of land north of RCWMA in Navarro Co. at the pump station and maybe a few more tracts in the area.

And yes there are some good bucks that stay on the 'Forbidden Zone". Right now they are on the levees or pushed up on private property because of the Trinity River being so high and the Forbidden Zone being under water.
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There was one that was poached off the zone and they have him mounted and in the wma
The guy shot him from 488
Thatís what the guys (staff) told me at the wma. That deer was well known to all the locals and he was a hoss.

No one hunts the zone that I know for sure.

The water filtration project is on the north side and that water is filtered and then put back into the water supply at least that is what my understanding is.
The idea was that there is a lot of wasted water that simply flows out the trinity so why not use natural habitat to filter the water and at the same time get some recreational value from it. The water can be pumped into RC.
Could be wrong but I believe thatís what I remember reading on that project.

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It was not called the "Forbidden Zone" until after the lake filled up. Before then employees could hunt the property TCWB owned, which included RCWMA and the "Forbidden Zone". After it became the "Forbidden Zone" no one hunts there legally.

That might explain the statement above.

TCWB still owns land south of the RCWMA off Amerada Ranch Road in Freestone Co that employees hunt and a small piece of land north of RCWMA in Navarro Co. at the pump station and maybe a few more tracts in the area.

And yes there are some good bucks that stay on the 'Forbidden Zone". Right now they are on the levees or pushed up on private property because of the Trinity River being so high and the Forbidden Zone being under water.
Have often wondered what happened to one of the biggest wild boars my eyes have ever beheld up close. It no doubt would frequent the Forbidden Zone. If I hadnít seen such a beast at such a short distance it would sound like a made-up or exaggerated story. Doubt heís still alive after all this time. He was too cocky to run away from vehicles.
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It was not called the "Forbidden Zone" until after the lake filled up. Before then employees could hunt the property TCWB owned, which included RCWMA and the "Forbidden Zone". After it became the "Forbidden Zone" no one hunts there legally.

That might explain the statement above.

TCWB still owns land south of the RCWMA off Amerada Ranch Road in Freestone Co that employees hunt and a small piece of land north of RCWMA in Navarro Co. at the pump station and maybe a few more tracts in the area.

And yes there are some good bucks that stay on the 'Forbidden Zone". Right now they are on the levees or pushed up on private property because of the Trinity River being so high and the Forbidden Zone being under water.
I've been down that ranch road, the gate at the end with all the locks on it to get into the back of the WMA is something else...
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