Vertix 29.5 inch draw 78 lbs .. the bow draws 30 inches on the draw board..
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Originally posted by jds247 View Postthe thing is that 1 ft per 3 grains stuff goes out the window too.. that arrow was still flying 254 fps.. my regular arrow which is 525 grains Flys 281 fps.. i don't normally shoot "heavy" arrows but i do experiment when im hunting a stand with a known distance.. speed of sound is 3 times faster than a bow, animals will jump the string no matter how fast your arrow is going..
And i will say that your bow is heavier than most people draw and your long draw also helps considerably. I bet most people shooting 640 grains are shooting quite a bit slower. Probably 220 or less just like the op.
Other than very heavy game or trad bows where speed is not an option, I am a firm believer in balance. But I am glad you are having good results.
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Originally posted by Black-N-Red View PostI’ll have to get my Full Throttle out & play with it now!! The last time I checked it, I was at 545gr @ 267fps at 64lbs & 29”.
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I guess what i don't get with the very heavy arrow craze, is that i get perfect arrow flight, with coc broad heads I get through an through penetration, even with expandable i generally shoot through deer and I do it all with decent but not blazing velocity of about 280 fps and moderate arrow weight of about 450 grains. And i only draw 67 pounds. I will use the same rig for elk this fall and have no concerns. Anyway that is one of the things I like about archery, we can all do it like we like
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Originally posted by jds247 View Postfor me there is but like hwy hunter said 30 yards and in you will be ok .. i prefer to stay about 270 ft a second for my bowtech that's a 500 grain arrow. For my mathews thats 550 .. any slower and the difference in 40 and 42 yards is too much for hunting
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Originally posted by sp-bow View PostWhat Mathews? Also dl and lbs? Looking at getting a new Mathews and wanted to be around 500 grain arrow. Just curious.
There's not much back wall with the 80% mods..Last edited by jds247; 07-11-2020, 10:26 PM.
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Originally posted by RJH1 View Postthat is a smoking fast rig. Also have you ever chroned a 450ish grain arrow out of it?
And i will say that your bow is heavier than most people draw and your long draw also helps considerably. I bet most people shooting 640 grains are shooting quite a bit slower. Probably 220 or less just like the op.
Other than very heavy game or trad bows where speed is not an option, I am a firm believer in balance. But I am glad you are having good results.
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Originally posted by Black-N-Red View PostI did some shooting today. Here’s the #’s I came up with
742gr 200fps Ke 65.83 Mo .6583
663gr 212fps Ke 66.09 Mo .623
625gr 218fps Ke 65.88 Mo .604
Can you if you guys explain the difference in the #’s of the 742gr & the 625gr arrow? I’ve tried to figure it out but my head hurts now!!
I think I’m gonna go with the 625gr arrow since it’s 18fps faster & only losing .05 of momentum. Would that be a good choice??
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I'm constantly tinkering and trying to learn .. I've changed setups several times.
Did one of the arrows shoot better than the others? If all the same I would just shoot them while you are practicing and see if one sticks out more than the other in terms of how they shoot..Last edited by jds247; 07-11-2020, 10:56 PM.
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Originally posted by jds247 View PostNot gonna lie that 78 lbs is pretty tough on the old shoulder. I enjoy shooting my bowtech at 73 much better.. the 80% mods on the vertix makes it feel like it doesn't have a valley. Dang near jerked my arm out of socket the other day..
Drop to 60 so you can enjoy archery longer.
My kill ratio has not suffered going from 73 to 55#
Heck I killed a pig with 30# about half way through my rehab
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Originally posted by cbd10pt View PostShoulder surgery sux.
Drop to 60 so you can enjoy archery longer.
My kill ratio has not suffered going from 73 to 55#
Heck I killed a pig with 30# about half way through my rehab
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Finished getting arrows together. Ended up with Xt Hunter shaft 30 7/8”, 100gr insert, 100gr Fact weight, 100gr German Kentic. 624gr, 21% foc, 218fps, 65.8Ke & .604Mo. 60lb Elite Victory X.
Had to do some nock tuning one it was about 2” to the right. Got it within 1/2” & then started turn the point. Got the 1/2” out it & arrow flight is great. Now I just got to start over & with broadhead tuning.
With setup I’m getting around 12” of drop from 20 to 30 yards. So I set my pins at 20,25 & 30. Most of the shot in my area are in the 20-25 range.
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Here are 3 arrow options I was experimenting with last weekend:
Option 1: 446 grain arrow, 300 FPS, 89.1 KE, .59 ME
Option 2: 513 grain arrow, 279 FPS, 88.6 KE, .63 ME
Option 3: 661 grain arrow, 247 FPS, 89.5 KE, .72 ME (4 vain setup).
I did build an option 4 that was around 556 that I have not chronographed yet, but it tuned super easy. Ill probably go with this one being around 270FPS. I will use this arrow for even western style spot and stalk mule deer hunting (long shots).
All of these builds were with blank Spartans different inserts. Bow specs: VXR 31.5, 82lbs, 29.5. Ill make 6 arrows of the 556 option, practice a lot, and start shooting 70-80 yards, and in between yardage. If the trajectory is to steep, then I will lighten the arrow.
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