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Old 10-12-2021, 09:28 AM   #51
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Coming to you from the same people that prefer the dumpster fire that is the Biden presidency because orange man has mean tweets! Remember the days when you may not have liked what someone said but you would fight for their right to say it? Remember when grandma taught you about sticks and stones? What a buncha of sissies!
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:28 AM   #52
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You can’t **** off the alphabet crew
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:33 AM   #53
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I'm actually sick of this cancel culture. I dare anybody anywhere to look back 12 years of things you've said or joked about and not find something that will hurt somebody's feelings.
I think they just wanted to get rid of him being old school and not one of these flashy smart 20 something wonder boy they want to coach their team.
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:48 AM   #54
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I could care less about any of it. However if I was using a work related email I would never say anything thats non-professional.

He was a decent coach sucks to see him go.

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Old 10-12-2021, 12:02 PM   #55
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I realize now my dreams of becoming a head football coach are gone thanks to all the f'd up things my buddies sent me in email.
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:02 PM   #56
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It all started with Jimmy the Greek. Although, many of you are probably not old enough to remember Jimmy being crucified.
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:19 PM   #57
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Yeah that's pretty American. Censoring someone and ruining their career just because you don't like their views. But you can be a homo and prance around in women's clothing and everyone is supposed to accept you for who you are. Yeah right, get real. He can't say anything to offend someone yet people can still kneel for the National Anthem and offend just as many people and they still have a job? What a joke.
I totally agree. This country has gone to crap.
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:20 PM   #58
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It all started with Jimmy the Greek. Although, many of you are probably not old enough to remember Jimmy being crucified.
Ol Jimmy he was a good and don’t forget Rush’s short but sweet stint in the booth
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:20 PM   #59
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John was at ESPN at the time this took place. Who was the coach at the Redskins at that time? Wasn't it his brother?
oh no, he said the 'R' word ..........
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:32 PM   #60
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It all started with Jimmy the Greek. Although, many of you are probably not old enough to remember Jimmy being crucified.
Sad part about Jimmy the Greek...everything he said was 100% factual

cringeworthy...but factual
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:33 PM   #61
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My guess is that Mark Davis the Raiders owner was all but sturdily told he had to do this and so he let Jon resign even though he did not want to have to let him go. NFL is woke and probably never will go broke but sure has lost a whole lot of fans and support over the last couple years

That being said, its not surprising he got let go for what he said. Heck Im sure i could get let go 100 times over for texts, and emails i have sent over the last 10 years.
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:42 PM   #62
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I haven’t seen the emails and don’t really care. All I want to know is how did we become such a nation of pansies?


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Old 10-12-2021, 01:22 PM   #63
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I had to google up that guy, I guess a don’t give 2 *’s , waste of time
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Old 10-12-2021, 01:34 PM   #64
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I had to google up that guy, I guess a don’t give 2 *’s , waste of time
Which part googling him or telling us about it?
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Superbowl 2022 Halftime performers.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...-headline/amp/

Fire all those that said anything masogonist, antihomo, n word, b word, honky, cracker, etc… in last ten years. Defamatory of any type they go. Who makes the cut?

Oh…oops NFL doesnt go both ways in equality…of marketing.
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Old 10-12-2021, 01:55 PM   #66
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Which part googling him or telling us about it?
Reading who he was why people care and what was leaked in the email, welcome to the new America
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Old 10-12-2021, 01:59 PM   #67
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The “e” in email stands for evidence.

And in the cloud, it lasts forever. For most people it will not matter. Anyone that might be in a public position in the future however…..
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:00 PM   #68
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Superbowl 2022 Halftime performers.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...-headline/amp/

Fire all those that said anything masogonist, antihomo, n word, b word, honky, cracker, etc… in last ten years. Defamatory of any type they go. Who makes the cut?

Oh…oops NFL doesnt go both ways in equality…of marketing.
100%
How about a 15 minutes of silence in morning for the death of the
USA as we knew it
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:02 PM   #69
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Had Gruden made these comments while rapping, rather than in an email, he'd still be coaching.
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:09 PM   #70
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I read some of it. I think a lot of what he says, a lot of us agree with. Probably shouldn’t have put it into an email lol.
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:10 PM   #71
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Reading who he was why people care and what was leaked in the email, welcome to the new America
Yes, it’s crazy but not really new. Now there’s just a lot more traceable evidence.

The OJ trial was almost 30 years ago. What hung it for the prosecution was detective Fuhrman making a comment that he had never use the N-word. Even if he had it was his word against someone else and he denied it.

Well, up until a woman had him on tape.

That tape using a racial slur was a major factor in OJ walking where he very likely committed a murder and Mark Fuhrman ending his career and being prosecuted for perjury.

The only difference between now and 30 years ago was that everything now is almost permanent. Everybody including small children are carrying around recorders, cameras and sending text messages and emails. Many if not most businesses now record everything inside and outside, people have cameras on the doorbell and other places around the house, etc.

Paula Deen lost her popular TV show eight years ago because of the same thing.

What has changed for the most part is privacy.

In my opinion …
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:24 PM   #72
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once coach O is let go, then LSU should hire him!
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Old 10-12-2021, 03:48 PM   #73
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Sad to see him gone!
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Old 10-12-2021, 04:31 PM   #74
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Any of the “offended” people can say or do anything they want to with ZERO reprecussions. This world is NUTS. The NFL is a joke. When Washington renamed their team because the word Redskin was offensive they lost me. I bet not one person of NATIVE AMERICAN heritage was offended. I do not understand today’s culture of “wokeness” whatever the hell that means, where everyone is offended at anything and everything, nor will I support or participate in it!!
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Old 10-12-2021, 04:53 PM   #75
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Garbage, he did nothing wrong. Every man has said something like this. Not to mention it was in a private email. This is a total joke. Gruden was right, no one should be told to draft queers, blacks, whites, trans whatever you are. The best guys should be drafted PERIOD. If it happens to be a queer so be it. Sickening what this country is becoming.
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:17 PM   #76
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:25 PM   #77
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The Tampa Bay Buccaneers announced on Tuesday that they will remove former Super Bowl-winning head coach Jon Gruden from their Ring of Honor after The New York Times reported that he made racist, misogynistic and homophobic comments directed at Commissioner Roger Goodell and NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith, among others.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:26 PM   #78
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**** shame^^^^^^^^
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Freedum of speech.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:57 PM   #80
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Man, can you imagine if they pulled years or our emails or work texts.....let em cast the first stone. I'll hold my judgements. haha.
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:33 PM   #81
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When enough people quit watching, buying merchandise and tickets, the nfl channel, etc., then it might change. Sad thing is, they won't. Too many people value their entertainment more than their freedom and their country.
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I have not really read into this, but weren’t these personal emails on a personal account? Not defending the action but ****! I can totally see these repercussions if they were on his work account. That would just be stupid.
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:24 PM   #83
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Cancel culture is not accountability. It's people's inability to process their own emotions.
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I have not really read into this, but weren’t these personal emails on a personal account? Not defending the action but ****! I can totally see these repercussions if they were on his work account. That would just be stupid.
Well he was that stupid as was the owner or gm of the then Redskins because he pushed the topless cheerleader pics to gruden, both on official nfl email accounts
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:28 PM   #85
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I have not really read into this, but weren’t these personal emails on a personal account? Not defending the action but ****! I can totally see these repercussions if they were on his work account. That would just be stupid.
They were from the former president of the Washington Redskins work email.
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Well he was that stupid as was the owner or gm of the then Redskins because he pushed the topless cheerleader pics to gruden, both on official nfl email accounts
Well now that's just hear say. I'd have to see that for myself to believe it. Naked cheerleader photos sounds like a myth.
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Well now that's just hear say. I'd have to see that for myself to believe it. Naked cheerleader photos sounds like a myth.
Hold on, I’ll send em to ya from my work email. What is your work email? 😜
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Freedum of speech.
Yep, he has it and he used it.
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I have not really read into this, but weren’t these personal emails on a personal account? Not defending the action but ****! I can totally see these repercussions if they were on his work account. That would just be stupid.
I think the uproar was over what he said, not in what venue he said it.
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If you wouldn’t want to read what you said on a billboard don't put it on the internet
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Sad world we live in!

2021, people are offended by words
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:42 AM   #92
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I believe Roger Goodell was responsible for the Gruden leaked emails. Goodell is smart enough to realize he couldn’t respond or reply to Gruden for insulting him. The only way he could get back at Gruden would be to make the emails go public. This situation only became apparent due to the NFL looking into sexual harassment allegations within the Redskins organization.

How ironic that after League investigators reviewed 650,000 emails and correspondence, only 1 person was called out and their name leaked with specifics. Was there not any other correspondence from individuals expressing their opinions towards another person ?
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Well he was that stupid as was the owner or gm of the then Redskins because he pushed the topless cheerleader pics to gruden, both on official nfl email accounts

Are those pictures released??
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If you wouldn’t want to read what you said on a billboard don't put it on the internet
This right here... I work for a smaller company and make a lot less than 10 million bucks a year, and I'm smart enough to keep the e-mails clean and professional. If you wanna shoot the bull and call each other names you'll call me. lol
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Old 10-13-2021, 10:29 AM   #95
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x10 .
Would love to see the NFL go bankrupt and fold altogether.
Pitiful organization.
Amen to this! If it happened yesterday it wouldn’t be quick enough!
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I believe Roger Goodell was responsible for the Gruden leaked emails. Goodell is smart enough to realize he couldn’t respond or reply to Gruden for insulting him. The only way he could get back at Gruden would be to make the emails go public. This situation only became apparent due to the NFL looking into sexual harassment allegations within the Redskins organization.

How ironic that after League investigators reviewed 650,000 emails and correspondence, only 1 person was called out and their name leaked with specifics. Was there not any other correspondence from individuals expressing their opinions towards another person ?
Lot of people pushing this theory.

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When we made victimhood a virtue.

No one is American anymore. They are black, white, gay, straight etc.

Everyone is looking out for something that could make them a victim of the other.


Pathetic.
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When we made victimhood a virtue.

No one is American anymore. They are black, white, gay, straight etc.

Everyone is looking out for something that could make them a victim of the other.


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Freedum of speech.
yes, and the repercussions that come with the choice of exercising his freedoms in this manner.
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Today’s world is weak and pathetic period!
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