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Old 06-30-2022, 10:39 AM   #1
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Default Kansas outfitter busted

Anyone hear about this outfit?

https://news.postuszero.com/local/amp/99316

Some younger guides learned a tough lesson. Sounds like the outfitter really messed up access for lots of folks with his actions: https://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforu...ages=8&forum=7
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:42 AM   #2
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I don’t know why but the penalties sure seem light to me given the circumstances.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:47 AM   #3
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I agree but that 20 yr old bull rider better get busy to pay his fine, $45,000.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:48 AM   #4
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The fines are ridiculous! Looking at all of the Management area’s that are now off limits due to this atrocity- their hunting privileges should have been taken away for life.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:49 AM   #5
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Those young men did some serious poaching.

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Old 06-30-2022, 10:51 AM   #6
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My bil was involved with a guy in NW Kansas that was leasing land that wasn't his. I was thinking the link was going to be that case but it isnt.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:52 AM   #7
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I thought this was going to be the one about the duck hunting outfit that was busted... What's going on in Kansas??? Seem's like it's happening kind of often.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:56 AM   #8
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Amusing when poachers get their hunting privileges revoked. What's the point?

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Old 06-30-2022, 11:03 AM   #9
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Not just poaching but poaching monster bucks
Lifetime loss of hunting rights seems appropriate to me
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Old 06-30-2022, 11:11 AM   #10
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I am trying to find out whether the land owners knew about the activities and received any punishment on top of the loss of revenue?

State is not going to accept their WIHP applications, but nothing regarding leasing to another outfitter?

I'll keep looking.

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Old 06-30-2022, 11:59 AM   #11
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“Loss of hunting privileges” obviously isn’t going to affect their future poaching much anyway.
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:15 PM   #12
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These writers are pitiful. . .

"Sean Winter was charged with 18 counts and pleaded guilty to six. He will have to pay a $5,800 fine, will not be able to hunt for a year and will have to confiscate a firearm."

Can he confiscate anyone's firearm? :-)
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:21 PM   #13
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These writers are pitiful. . .

"Sean Winter was charged with 18 counts and pleaded guilty to six. He will have to pay a $5,800 fine, will not be able to hunt for a year and will have to confiscate a firearm."

Can he confiscate anyone's firearm? :-)
Yes, as part of his punishment he has to go to Chicago and take a gangster’s gun
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:37 PM   #14
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Someone please break this down, what did they do? Obviously it was illegal but??
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:59 PM   #15
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Second hand here, a guy on Bowsite from the area says the outfitter went around and offered landowners more than the state to lease their land, hunters lost thousands of acres of what was open to public hunting to the lease up.
His guides were then hunting archery season with rifles and in some cases never had permits for the deer taken, sounds like guides and paying hunters.
In all I find 9 people were charged but only names for the larger fines.

Nutshell, they took deer on archery permits with a rifle and poached some without a license at all.
And the ones named are pretty young, that is sad to see.
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:03 PM   #16
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Second hand here, a guy on Bowsite from the area says the outfitter went around and offered landowners more than the state to lease their land, hunters lost thousands of acres of what was open to public hunting to the lease up.
His guides were then hunting archery season with rifles and in some cases never had permits for the deer taken, sounds like guides and paying hunters.
In all I find 9 people were charged but only names for the larger fines.

Nutshell, they took deer on archery permits with a rifle and poached some without a license at all.
And the ones named are pretty young, that is sad to see.
"25 deer, most mule deer, one antelope and eight turkeys that had been illegally slaughtered."

From one of the articles.

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Old 06-30-2022, 01:20 PM   #17
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These writers are pitiful. . .

"Sean Winter was charged with 18 counts and pleaded guilty to six. He will have to pay a $5,800 fine, will not be able to hunt for a year and will have to confiscate a firearm."

Can he confiscate anyone's firearm? :-)
This was my thought as well.....

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Old 06-30-2022, 01:30 PM   #18
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It’s amazing what some people will do in order to tell a lie about a deer head.
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:54 PM   #19
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I was in NW Kansas pheasant hunting and the older ranch hand that was showing us around, offered to take me deer hunting the following year. He didn’t hunt, but he showed me some pics of huge mule deer that his son had killed. When i told him I’d really like to go, but the tags were difficult to draw. He said no problem, I’ll buy my license and you can do the shooting. I never called him. And, this was not a paid hunt, nor did he want any money….
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:10 PM   #20
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Amusing when poachers get their hunting privileges revoked. What's the point?


They will never be allowed to purchase a hunting license for the first time.
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:17 PM   #21
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I agree but that 20 yr old bull rider better get busy to pay his fine, $45,000.
I didn't see this part, who was it?
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Old 06-30-2022, 07:12 PM   #22
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These writers are pitiful. . .

"Sean Winter was charged with 18 counts and pleaded guilty to six. He will have to pay a $5,800 fine, will not be able to hunt for a year and will have to confiscate a firearm."

Can he confiscate anyone's firearm? :-)

The writers are garbage. The article says Tracy weeter is a she but it looks like it is actually his dad.


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Old 07-01-2022, 02:35 AM   #23
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I thought this was going to be the one about the duck hunting outfit that was busted... What's going on in Kansas??? Seem's like it's happening kind of often.
It’s all the time. Poaching is big in Kansas. Mostly done by locals.
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Old 07-01-2022, 06:54 AM   #24
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Now that is irony
Revoking a poachers hunting privileges.
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Old 07-01-2022, 09:51 AM   #25
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I didn't see this part, who was it?
Sorry looks like the guy with the big fines is a bull fighter.
Take a look at Tracy Weeter's FB page, makes you wonder.
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Old 07-01-2022, 10:02 AM   #26
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In for pictures of the bucks!!
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Old 07-01-2022, 01:15 PM   #27
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Anybody know who the outfitter was? Looking for a bargain Kansas whitetail hunt.


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Old 07-01-2022, 02:33 PM   #28
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It’s all the time. Poaching is big in Kansas. Mostly done by locals.
You beat me to it, I almost typed a response extremely similar to yours yesterday. When I first started hunting Kansas many, many moons ago, before farmers knew what kind of commodity deer were, Texas did not have anything on Kansas as for as poaching/road hunting went, not even our eastern brothers!


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Old 07-01-2022, 07:59 PM   #29
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Amusing when poachers get their hunting privileges revoked. What's the point?
Very good point, they were not following the laws before. What's going to stop them from hunting with no license?
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Old 07-01-2022, 08:07 PM   #30
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“Loss of hunting privileges” obviously isn’t going to affect their future poaching much anyway.
Yep, baffles me when they take hunting privileges away from a poacher.
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Old 07-01-2022, 08:38 PM   #31
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You beat me to it, I almost typed a response extremely similar to yours yesterday. When I first started hunting Kansas many, many moons ago, before farmers knew what kind of commodity deer were, Texas did not have anything on Kansas as for as poaching/road hunting went, not even our eastern brothers!


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Yeah, road hunting is quite popular up there.
I remember one year I was in SW Kansas pheasant hunting with some friends. Opening day was on a Saturday and by Sunday afternoon, most of the group had left. Think there was 6 of us left so we all paired up in trucks and started riding the roads. I wasn’t hunting, just riding along. But I remember there was a older model car coming towards us. There was a little old lady driving and a old man riding shotgun, literally!!! He had the barrel sticking out the window, ready for any pheasant they saw in the bar ditch!!!
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Old 07-01-2022, 09:32 PM   #32
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“Loss of hunting privileges” obviously isn’t going to affect their future poaching much anyway.
Yea first thing I thought was dang that 45G is gonna be a booger. But taking away hunting privileges from a poacher as part of the punishment is comical.
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Old 07-02-2022, 06:55 AM   #33
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173” average !
They should be tarred and feathered too.
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