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Old 06-01-2022, 03:59 PM   #1
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I currently drive a F150 V6 ecoboost. Very happy with the truck but was looking to get into a F250 diesel. Both 4WD.

How much more will the F250 cost me in upkeep, etc. I know how to calculate the difference in gas to diesel, but what else?

should I expect an extra 2-5 K per year to drive the 250? basic cost of the truck not included.

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Old 06-01-2022, 04:04 PM   #2
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Fuel filters $180 every 20 k mikes
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Old 06-01-2022, 04:16 PM   #3
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I change my own oil and it costs a little over $100 with synthetic, now that I say that I havent bought oil in a long time but I used to get Rotella T6 on sale and I bought a ton a few years ago. I assume that cost has gone up. I send in an oil sample to get a diagnosis on the oil and they almost always tell me to run it to 10k-12k miles. Both of my fuel filters cost me $40 and I change them myself.

Tires, plan on spending $1600 when the time comes. The biggest unknown is when you have some sort of failure on the diesel. Nothing is cheap. Fuel system is probably the biggest risk, a complete new fuel system is $10k from what I hear. This can be avoided by using a good fuel additive and filling up at a reliable gas statation.
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Unless you are buying it specifically for towing, I would stick to a F150. I went from a F150 Ecoboost half ton, to a F250 diesel but needed to for towing our camper. I always thought I wanted an F250 until I got one. The F150 was so much smoother and easier to drive around town. The F250 is a tank, it looks good and tows well. I prefer the F150, having had both, other than towing.
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Old 06-01-2022, 04:34 PM   #5
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The yearly inspection is cheap. Aside from that...
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How long between oil changes versus a gas truck. I have to do mine every 5000 miles.
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Old 06-01-2022, 04:36 PM   #7
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Everything on the diesel motor is more expensive! Two batteries vs one and if one goes out you will find it very beneficial to replace Both at the same time with high quality batteries $600! Starters are a lot more expensive along with alternators especially if you want high output on that alternator. I felt safer in my 250 and 350 but if your not toting around a drag up tank full of diesel along with a heavy duty toolbox filled with tools you’ll think it has square tires on it! If your not pulling with it I would advise against it! If you do pull - the diesel is day over night on that half ton - I don’t care what motor and tranny you get in it! If you are going with the 6.7 I would advise to stay with Manu spec motorcraft , I tried RP, Amsoil, retella , delo and eventually went back to the multi- blend with better performance !
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Old 06-01-2022, 05:18 PM   #9
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I currently drive a F150 V6 ecoboost. Very happy with the truck but was looking to get into a F250 diesel. Both 4WD.

How much more will the F250 cost me in upkeep, etc. I know how to calculate the difference in gas to diesel, but what else?

should I expect an extra 2-5 K per year to drive the 250? basic cost of the truck not included.

Thanks for any help you can give.

If you do your own maintenance the diesel MIGHT cost you $700/yr more.

If you are willing to spend the money on a new F250 you shouldnít be worried about yearly driving costs. Kinda like buying a custom Holland and Holland double rifle and then asking about the cost of 450 NE ammunition.


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Old 06-01-2022, 05:22 PM   #10
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The biggest cost difference will be the $12000 difference for the diesel, which will take 8 plus years to make up pending how much you drive.
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Old 06-01-2022, 05:46 PM   #11
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Everything on the diesel motor is more expensive! Two batteries vs one and if one goes out you will find it very beneficial to replace Both at the same time with high quality batteries $600! Starters are a lot more expensive along with alternators especially if you want high output on that alternator. I felt safer in my 250 and 350 but if your not toting around a drag up tank full of diesel along with a heavy duty toolbox filled with tools youíll think it has square tires on it! If your not pulling with it I would advise against it! If you do pull - the diesel is day over night on that half ton - I donít care what motor and tranny you get in it! If you are going with the 6.7 I would advise to stay with Manu spec motorcraft , I tried RP, Amsoil, retella , delo and eventually went back to the multi- blend with better performance !
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Old 06-01-2022, 06:03 PM   #12
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DEF is $3.86 at the pump.....Travelers DEF at tractor supply is around $12 for 2.5 gallons.

5 gallons of DEF can last me 5k miles if I'm not towing or burning up the highway

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Old 06-01-2022, 06:06 PM   #13
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I can't tell you how much more a year a diesel will cost.....i would say $5k is a good number to expect.

But you get a premium when you sell it vs. a gas truck.

I like the 3/4 ton platform for its beefier componants but i will say a 1/2 ton Ford is a stoutly built truck.


The interior room is the same, where a diesel shines is towing, especially in hills. I was contemplating moving to a 1/2 diesel two weeks ago then had to pull my Tractor about 400 miles and at 10k lbs was glad i had the diesel going up the hills thru Kerrville.


If you are not towing anything heavy/towing long distances I would say stick to a half-ton, as you won't be gaining anything vs. getting a diesel.
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DEF is $3.86 at the pump.....Travelers Def. at tractor supply is around $12 for 2.5 gallons.

5 gallons of DEF can last me 5k miles if I'm not towing or burning up the highway
Not to mention the filters run about $48-50 and take 10 minutes at most to swap, and thatís if Iím enjoying a cold one while the separator drains.
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Old 06-01-2022, 06:08 PM   #15
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On the Def, don’t go cheap and with a knock- off brand !
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Old 06-01-2022, 06:10 PM   #16
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thanks for all the insight. I'm really not towing much. May just stick to the 150
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Old 06-01-2022, 06:14 PM   #17
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If you do your own maintenance the diesel MIGHT cost you $700/yr more.

If you are willing to spend the money on a new F250 you shouldnít be worried about yearly driving costs. Kinda like buying a custom Holland and Holland double rifle and then asking about the cost of 450 NE ammunition.


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I was just trying to see the overall cost. I understand the upfront cost is more, just trying to get a handle on the overall cost. thanks
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I was just trying to see the overall cost. I understand the upfront cost is more, just trying to get a handle on the overall cost. thanks
General maintenance isnít much more at all. Iíve had a half ton daily driver and a 17í 6.7 diesel at the same time, and driving both were similar costs daily. He biggest costs were upfront diesel price, any unexpected repairs, and tires. I can get 70K miles out of tires on a half ton every single time. Iíd be lucky to get 40K out of my diesel. Luckily I only drove it 10-15K a year while putting 80K+ on the half ton
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Old 06-01-2022, 06:35 PM   #19
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I miss my Diesel, but unless you need one, I say keep the 1500.

With fuel prices I'm keeping my f150. I also drive a lot.
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Old 06-01-2022, 06:43 PM   #20
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For what it's worth I recent got both my fuel filters for my '16 2500 Cummins for $40 via Amazon.
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Old 06-01-2022, 06:44 PM   #21
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I just went from a 250 to a 150. If you don’t have self esteem issues, The 150 wins 95% of the time. But in the 50 days I’ve owned the f150, 1 day I had to pull a heavy trailer and missed my f250. Just that 1 day though.
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I just went from a 250 to a 150. If you donít have self esteem issues, The 150 wins 95% of the time. But in the 50 days Iíve owned the f150, 1 day I had to pull a heavy trailer and missed my f250. Just that 1 day though.
Full disclosure, i myself had self esteem issues the first few days haha.
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Full disclosure, i myself had self esteem issues the first few days haha.
Myself- the first 3 months I was in Oh Snap mode!
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Old 06-01-2022, 06:56 PM   #24
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I went from F250 to F150 (both gas). One item I haven't seen mentioned is brakes. I seems to go through the brakes more often on the F250, even though I rarely towed much more than a utility trailer. Just the additional weight of the truck (and especially for the diesel) will wear on those pads and rotors.
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Old 06-01-2022, 08:44 PM   #25
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I have a 2014 F150 and a 2021 F250 diesel

I'd rather drive the 150, everyday all day. I'd never have a 250 as my daily driver.
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Old 06-02-2022, 06:29 AM   #26
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thanks. what ever truck I get, I would use as a daily driver. I have a 2018 F150 with 145K miles on it. I drive alot. The 250 would be my daily driver. Just never had one and was thinking I would enjoy something different. Not so sure now.
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:51 AM   #27
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Unless you are buying it specifically for towing, I would stick to a F150. I went from a F150 Ecoboost half ton, to a F250 diesel but needed to for towing our camper. I always thought I wanted an F250 until I got one. The F150 was so much smoother and easier to drive around town. The F250 is a tank, it looks good and tows well. I prefer the F150, having had both, other than towing.

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I have a 2014 F150 and a 2021 F250 diesel

I'd rather drive the 150, everyday all day. I'd never have a 250 as my daily driver.
This. I have a 3500 diesel and 1500 Ford gasser. The 1/2 ton is a pleasure to drive around. Smooth riding, easier to park, cheaper to fill up. You can put a small lift and bigger tires on it and have a bigger truck feel.
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In my 32 years of driving I have had one half ton. I traded it in after 23k miles and got back in a 3/4 ton.
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Stick with 150 in your situation.
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:59 AM   #31
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My father is going to sell his 2 F250s and order a new F150 Long bed with Tow mirrors. I am probably going to do the same. He is selling because he has a harder time getting in and out of the F250 in his age, he has never been satisfied with the ride comfort, and not satisfied with the fuel economy on the gasser.

He is selling a 1999 F250 7.3 (276k)
and a 2019 F250 Gas 6.2 (26k)
Both are Lariats for their respective year.

I enjoy my 2017 F250 6.7 Lariat, but there are many days when I miss my F150 Ecoboost. Comfort in driving mostly. My F250 rides like basketball.

I tow a 37í Camper and a 22í bay boat, cargo trailer or 10í utility trailer.

The F150 would handle them all from SPI To OK to LA. Just the weight of the camper was the worst issue on the F150. Iíd bag the next one in the future.

Other then fuel. Servicing can be few hundred bucks.
Now, when repairs on that diesel are in order, those cost can change your mind really quick.


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I like my F250 and haven’t seen the ride issues some are talking about, but I also don’t have factory shocks. I like the ability to tow/haul more when I need to. Service costs don’t seem to be outrageously more.
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Have driven 1/2 ton chevy for 20 years. Made the swap to F250 w/ 6.7 and wont be going back.
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I've owned both and currently drive a F250. Both are great vehicles. IMO the F250 is worth the extra expense. If I ever go back to a F150 and it will be HARD, it will prob have to be a Raptor (something with balls!).
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I have a ‘19 F150 and my dad has a ‘18 f250 gas.

The ride is night and day between them. The F150 rides much better. You sit higher in the F250 though.

He doesn’t tow hardly at all, and when he got rid of his 2001 chevy 2500hd gas for the F250 I asked why he was getting the F250 over an F150. “I like the ride of a 3/4 ton”. I feel he is in a small percentage of people that actually prefers the ride of a 3/4 ton over a 1/2. If you are not towing, I don’t think there is any reason to have a 3/4 over a 1/2. If you do tow, dealing with the stiff ride is just something you have to do to get the performance.

You said it will be a daily driver and you don’t tow much. Personally, no way I’d go to a 3/4 ton in that situation. Obviously my dad would say different. Haha.
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If yall quit buying them little short box trucks that look really cool and buy a man's truck with a 8ft bed. The ride would be much better

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I've owned both and currently drive a F250. Both are great vehicles. IMO the F250 is worth the extra expense. If I ever go back to a F150 and it will be HARD, it will prob have to be a Raptor (something with balls!).

Can you tow as much with a raptor as a regular 150 due to the raptor having ind rear suspension? It might have more hp but less payload and towing capacity?
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If yall quit buying them little short box trucks that look really cool and buy a man's truck with a 8ft bed. The ride would be much better

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My next 150 will have the longer bed.
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Old 06-02-2022, 10:21 AM   #39
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Can you tow as much with a raptor as a regular 150 due to the raptor having ind rear suspension? It might have more hp but less payload and towing capacity?
Not sure I don't tow enough to worry about that. I'm just talking about hauling azz
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It’s a give and take. I drive a lot but when I’m not working I’m typically hauling some toy and there is just no comparison in the comfort of towing with the 250. I probably only tow more than a 150 “could” handle half a dozen times a year, but I say just because it can doesn’t mean it’s comfortable. If I didn’t tow so much a 150 would be just fine.

At the end of the day it’s your money and you can spend it how you like. I would recommend driving a 250 and hit some bumps. They have come a long way, but it’s still not the same ride as a 1/2 ton truck.
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Not sure I don't tow enough to worry about that. I'm just talking about hauling azz
A guy at my gym just bought a new raptor... this will be his second. Its a sweet looking rig!
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A guy at my gym just bought a new raptor... this will be his second. Its a sweet looking rig!
They're a dime a dozen in Midland and most don't ever get engaged in 4 wheel drive. They'd be the ideal truck to purchase used.
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I have a 2015 diesel 4x4 crew cab LWB that I have tracked all expenses. A year ago, it was costing me just under $0.17/mile to operate. Now it is up to $0.36/mile. I'm at 102k miles and have not had any major repairs. I did have an injector go out $6k miles ago but, it was covered under warranty. My expenses have been pretty much limited to oil, filters (including fuel), DEF, fuel and tires.
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DEF is $3.86 at the pump.....Travelers DEF at tractor supply is around $12 for 2.5 gallons.

5 gallons of DEF can last me 5k miles if I'm not towing or burning up the highway
DEF cost is nil

But DEF heater pumpÖ thatís a different story, itís not if but when and when again
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Old 06-02-2022, 12:34 PM   #45
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I've got a '20 Duramax, but was always under the impression things were gonna be much more expensive. I change my own oil on 5k intervals (costs me about $70 with T4 and a 10k mile filter which I swap every other change), do my own fuel filter (was quoted $170 for that, able to do it for the cost of the filter and a huge socket (35mm) roughly $20 every 20k miles). Tires are tires but for some BFGs it was around $1800. You can easily spend that on an F150 depending on your setup.

I really enjoy having a bigger ride and it pulls the 5th wheel great. Not here to argue with bean counters on gas vs diesel values/payoff periods, but I'd say if you handle the basics outlined above it's not much different outside of the fuel cost.
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Old 06-02-2022, 01:02 PM   #46
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I really like my F350. I tow a 5th wheel about once every 2-3 months. If I didn't have the 5th wheel, who knows...
I'd have to drive a F150 for a few days to decide. Likely, I'd get into a supped up raptor or one of the Shelby F150s. Something fun.
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But DEF heater pumpÖ thatís a different story, itís not if but when and when again

Yup, exactly!
I replaced mine the first time just after filling it completely, the second time it went out was after refilling it again. I wasnít about to replace it again with a full tank so I deleted. Itís not a hard job to replace it just not fun by yourself.


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Old 06-02-2022, 01:48 PM   #48
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Half ton: Cheaper fuel. Rides a lot better. Easier to park and get around town. Easier to crawl in and out of. Cost less up front.

3/4 Ton Diesel: Bigger, better visibility, tows better, better resale.

There's no real difference in maintenance costs. Repairs and initial cost for the engine is the big difference. Personally I couldn't justify a bigger, rougher riding, more expensive truck if I wasn't towing or needed the hauling capacity, so I went to a 1/2 ton and never looked back.
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Old 06-02-2022, 02:29 PM   #49
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the F150 really does all I need. I have a 5th wheel moved only once every few years if I have to change leases. Usually have a friend move it. I just saw that nice white 250 in the classifieds and got me tempted to get a 250. Always have been tempted every time I get a new truck. Its definitely a want and not a need...
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Old 06-02-2022, 05:58 PM   #50
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Unless you are buying it specifically for towing, I would stick to a F150. I went from a F150 Ecoboost half ton, to a F250 diesel but needed to for towing our camper. I always thought I wanted an F250 until I got one. The F150 was so much smoother and easier to drive around town. The F250 is a tank, it looks good and tows well. I prefer the F150, having had both, other than towing.
I 100% agree with this.
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