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Old 01-10-2019, 12:39 AM   #501
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All I can say is WOW! Working lots of OT to pay for a wedding and hopefully one of these.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:30 AM   #502
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So Robert what is your ideas on a 300 PRC we talked about the 7mm 300 300 Wm but if I am going to add a 30 cal into the mix and factory ammo for it now .. if the data I looked up is correct 1000 lb mark is out near 1250-1300 Now that does what the 300 WM does and better as well staying with the 30 cal bullet new loads will be coming for sure and in lighter bullet weights as well .

Still looking back the 6.5 PRC is yes going to roll that 1000 mark back to 900 however much less recoil in a ultra light weight rig . and not sure when I will get the chance to hunt beyond the 1000 very often .

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Old 01-10-2019, 10:41 AM   #503
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just a suggestion, Robert will put out the official order form as soon as he in convinced these rifles will do what they are supposed to do. He WILL NOT build anything unless it will go out of the shop with the Alamo Precision Brand on it.

as far as cartridges, Go to these forums, join them and ask questions. Accurate Shooter.com, Long Range Hunting.com, 24 Hour Campfire.com, Snipershide.com You will learn all about EVERY option out there. Give Robert time to make these rifle's shoot like we want them to.

This is MY opinion only but I would stay with the more common calibers re: 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm mag.270, .300 Win Mag, again in MY opinion only, the RUM Magnums, Big, Heavy calibers might be better built off a different set up. Discuss this with Robert when the order sheet is put out.

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So Robert what is your ideas on a 300 PRC we talked about the 7mm 300 300 Wm but if I am going to add a 30 cal into the mix and factory ammo for it now .. if the data I looked up is correct 1000 lb mark is out near 1250-1300 Now that does what the 300 WM does and better as well staying with the 30 cal bullet new loads will be coming for sure and in lighter bullet weights as well .

Still looking back the 6.5 PRC is yes going to roll that 1000 mark back to 900 however much less recoil in a ultra light weight rig . and not sure when I will get the chance to hunt beyond the 1000 very often .

I know waffle waffle HA HA HA
The only 2 issues I can see with the 300PRC is the fact that you are stuck with Hornady brass (which is also true of the 6.5 and has not been an issue so far), but at least there are other options in the works for it - not so sure about the 300 version. The other issue is you have to be mindful of mag constraints when planning your build. No issues going with a BDL set up, but it will not fit in a standard magnum AICS patterned mag. You'll need to go CIP length if going DBM.
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just a suggestion, Robert will put out the official order form as soon as he in convinced these rifles will do what they are supposed to do. He WILL NOT build anything unless it will go out of the shop with the Alamo Precision Brand on it.

as far as cartridges, Go to these forums, join them and ask questions. Accurate Shooter.com, Long Range Hunting.com, 24 Hour Campfire.com, Snipershide.com You will learn all about EVERY option out there. Give Robert time to make these rifle's shoot like we want them to.

This is MY opinion only but I would stay with the more common calibers re: 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm mag.270, .300 Win Mag, again in MY opinion only, the RUM Magnums, Big, Heavy calibers might be better built off a different set up. Discuss this with Robert when the order sheet is put out.

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So Robert what is your ideas on a 300 PRC we talked about the 7mm 300 300 Wm but if I am going to add a 30 cal into the mix and factory ammo for it now .. if the data I looked up is correct 1000 lb mark is out near 1250-1300 Now that does what the 300 WM does and better as well staying with the 30 cal bullet new loads will be coming for sure and in lighter bullet weights as well .

Still looking back the 6.5 PRC is yes going to roll that 1000 mark back to 900 however much less recoil in a ultra light weight rig . and not sure when I will get the chance to hunt beyond the 1000 very often .

I know waffle waffle HA HA HA
300wm for me. 28" pipe with ultra 7 can shooting 215 burgers. Hoping to get around 3000fps hand loads, which would bring the 1000lb energy to around 1400yds. Plus factory ammo is common if I ever need to go that direction
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Definitely in for the tier 1 light weight build. Still up in the air on caliber, 300WM vs 28 Nosler for deer, black bear, sheep, and elk. Also looking at glass between Zeiss V6 and Leupold VX6HD. Want to get 1000yds out of it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:23 PM   #508
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Sorry about that. If you can't get me next time, leave a message with Garret and I'll call you back. I will probably be at the range in the mornings for a while until we are done testing.

How did the testing go?
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How did the testing go?

It went good overall. I didn't get through all of them due to a meeting yesterday and the rain today, but made some good headway earlier this week. Will resume next week and hopefully finalize everything. The "wrap" itself is pretty much solid and final. I do have another internal contour inbound that I think will be it based on results from the other ones. My other tester put a 40 round group through one of the 6.5's non-stop and it never walked. Probably killed it, but it stayed put. I did have one of the 6mms open up, but we were testing a contouring method and pretty much expected it to have that effect.
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Robert I might have missed it in the 509 post on this thread, but what kind of barrel life you expecting out of the carbon fiber chamber in say a 7 rem mag or 300 win mag?

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Old 01-12-2019, 12:26 PM   #511
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Robert I might have missed it in the 509 post on this thread, but what kind of barrel life you expecting out of the carbon fiber chamber in say a 7 rem mag or 300 win mag?

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Curious about this as well.
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Curious about this as well.
Based on my proof barreled rifles Iíd say comparable to sporter mag contour barrel life or better. I load of course and firecracking is what I see the most in my barrels.
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Robert I might have missed it in the 509 post on this thread, but what kind of barrel life you expecting out of the carbon fiber chamber in say a 7 rem mag or 300 win mag?

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Not expecting any noticeable difference if shot the same manner as an all steel barrel(Don't run hot and cool down between strings). Fire cracking will get them all eventually. One may cool faster than the other, but not fast enough to make a difference during an actual shot string. It just means one will be ready to shoot again sooner.
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Not expecting any noticeable difference if shot the same manner as an all steel barrel(Don't run hot and cool down between strings). Fire cracking will get them all eventually. One may cool faster than the other, but not fast enough to make a difference during an actual shot string. It just means one will be ready to shoot again sooner.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:01 PM   #515
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Have you had any experience with the 6.5 Sherman round. It looks like it might be a real contender.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:03 PM   #516
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Are you guys going to make the Dallas Safari Club?
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:37 PM   #517
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I like the idea of the tier one in 28nosler
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:24 AM   #518
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The tier 1 in 6.5 PRC is calling my name.
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:15 PM   #520
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:48 PM   #521
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Update - Awaiting arrival of the very last barrel. Looks like it will deliver tomorrow since it did not make it today. We will chamber and test it ASAP. The plan is to have the TBH special up and running live by next Friday.
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Update - Awaiting arrival of the very last barrel. Looks like it will deliver tomorrow since it did not make it today. We will chamber and test it ASAP. The plan is to have the TBH special up and running live by next Friday.
Yall are closed mondays right? I hope to be without cell services from Wednesday to Saturday

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This question might be too soon as if I’d already placed my order. Is there a projected lead time on eta after rifle/s is ordered?
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This question might be too soon as if Iíd already placed my order. Is there a projected lead time on eta after rifle/s is ordered?
Shooting for April deliveries.
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Still trying to decide on caliber. I already have APRs in .25-06 AI and .264 Win Mag, so am pretty well covered for long range on deer sized game. I want the Tier 1 lightweight. It will be used for midrange, out to 500 yds. It will be primarily for deer sized game with the possibility of elk sized game thrown in.
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Still trying to decide on caliber. I already have APRs in .25-06 AI and .264 Win Mag, so am pretty well covered for long range on deer sized game. I want the Tier 1 lightweight. It will be used for midrange, out to 500 yds. It will be primarily for deer sized game with the possibility of elk sized game thrown in.


I still havenít made up my mind on caliber either.

Iím also trying to figure out which scope but leaning towards a Zwaro Z6.


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Sounds like your need a 30 cal in your life: 308 or 300 wm


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Still trying to decide on caliber. I already have APRs in .25-06 AI and .264 Win Mag, so am pretty well covered for long range on deer sized game. I want the Tier 1 lightweight. It will be used for midrange, out to 500 yds. It will be primarily for deer sized game with the possibility of elk sized game thrown in.
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Still trying to decide on caliber. I already have APRs in .25-06 AI and .264 Win Mag, so am pretty well covered for long range on deer sized game. I want the Tier 1 lightweight. It will be used for midrange, out to 500 yds. It will be primarily for deer sized game with the possibility of elk sized game thrown in.
It's hard to justify anything else when you already own a 264 Win Mag
The big 7's running heavies can be fun to play with and deliver a little more energy for the elk opportunities. But it's not like the 264 won't get it done either. A 30 may be a big enough jump to consider?
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It's hard to justify anything else when you already own a 264 Win Mag

The big 7's running heavies can be fun to play with and deliver a little more energy for the elk opportunities. But it's not like the 264 won't get it done either. A 30 may be a big enough jump to consider?


Your now trying to talk me into a 264 that I didnít think I needed
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Your now trying to talk me into a 264 that I didnít think I needed
You need one
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It's hard to justify anything else when you already own a 264 Win Mag
The big 7's running heavies can be fun to play with and deliver a little more energy for the elk opportunities. But it's not like the 264 won't get it done either. A 30 may be a big enough jump to consider?
I thought about a .300 but am planning a tier 1 ultralight and since I don't like muzzle breaks I don't think I could handle the recoil.

I really can't justify anything else, I just want another APR. Currently, in rifles, I have:
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Tier 1 without a brake..............everyone should own a .280 Ackley Improved.
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Tier 1 without a brake..............everyone should own a .280 Ackley Improved.
That would be my thoughts as well.

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Agree 100%. It is between the 280AI and the old antiquated ineffective 270 win for me.
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What would yíall recommend for a short barreled varmint application. Iíd like to have one that carries easily in my truck to shoot coyotes and also start my son shooting on something with very little recoil. I am not familiar with the which of the .22 type calibers are good out of a short barrel or if there is an alternative.
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What would yíall recommend for a short barreled varmint application. Iíd like to have one that carries easily in my truck to shoot coyotes and also start my son shooting on something with very little recoil. I am not familiar with the which of the .22 type calibers are good out of a short barrel or if there is an alternative.
Iím personally doing a 22-250 in a 20Ē build for this round

I primarily shoot suppressed and wonít take a shot pass 300-400 yards so was given the green light for a 20Ē setup
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I keep going back to the 25-06 and 6.5-284.


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For a short 22 I'd look at the 22 Creed or 22-250AI. The creed needs to be necked down and not sure if needs to be neck trimmed afterwards. The AI of course needs fire forming. Both are ballastically nearly identical.

I've read of a few people getting insane velocity out of 18 inch barrel. I haven't experimented with mine or pushed it too hard. I'm getting 3100 from an 80 grainer and a 22 inch barrel with W760. It's a 1 inch at 300 load.

I'm waiting for the new Nos AB in 70 grains and plan to try it out with RL 26.

My APR built AI shot 3/4 inch for 25 shots while fire forming.
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Man, I'd go with the 65x284. Loaded with a 120 it would be as flat shooting as the 25 and loaded with a 140-150 will do way more work.

You could go with a 65-06AI or Sherman and max out all you get from a standard action.

I don't think you reload but I hear you know a guy so the sky's the limit.
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Man, I'd go with the 65x284. Loaded with a 120 it would be as flat shooting as the 25 and loaded with a 140-150 will do way more work.



You could go with a 65-06AI or Sherman and max out all you get from a standard action.



I don't think you reload but I hear you know a guy so the sky's the limit.


I have a .264 win now thatís probably my favorite caliber I own just wanting something soft recoiling thatís light and fun to shoot.


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The 6.5x284 fits that bill IMO. Likely one of the best unsung deer rounds out there. Very easy to load for and modest recoil. Loaded with anything from 120-140 it's a hammer.

I killed a doe with a dead center shoulder shot at 315 two weeks ago with my 65 manbun. That's giving up right at 300 fps from the 284 and she went all of 20 yards after the 143 eldx popped her.
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For a short 22 I'd look at the 22 Creed or 22-250AI. The creed needs to be necked down and not sure if needs to be neck trimmed afterwards. The AI of course needs fire forming. Both are ballastically nearly identical.



I've read of a few people getting insane velocity out of 18 inch barrel. I haven't experimented with mine or pushed it too hard. I'm getting 3100 from an 80 grainer and a 22 inch barrel with W760. It's a 1 inch at 300 load.



I'm waiting for the new Nos AB in 70 grains and plan to try it out with RL 26.



My APR built AI shot 3/4 inch for 25 shots while fire forming.


Itís looking like 22 creed will have factory ammo from Hornady soon. Theyíve just released brass and dies for it.
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Man, I'd go with the 65x284. Loaded with a 120 it would be as flat shooting as the 25 and loaded with a 140-150 will do way more work.



You could go with a 65-06AI or Sherman and max out all you get from a standard action.



I don't think you reload but I hear you know a guy so the sky's the limit.


Iím going to have him work up some loads for my 280 AI soon. Iíll probably eventually get into reloading but need to have a little more space to set up an area for it.


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I keep going back to the 25-06 and 6.5-284.


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6.5-284...... Iím going to throw out a thought here, that may not be applicable or relevant to anything....but here goes. Consider the 6.5PRC. It is in the same performance window as the 6.5-284. Both rounds really shine in a long action, so you are kind of committed to that path with either. The mag boltface of the PRC will give you an infinite selection of long range options down the road should you get bored or want to try something different. The 284 will have the better brass available right now, but that is changing soon. The PRC has hyper-accurate ammo available now, should you not want to jump into loading yet. The 6.5-06AI was another awesome suggestion thrown out already. It is the king of the non-mag 6.5s and easy to load for.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:32 PM   #548
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For a short 22 I'd look at the 22 Creed or 22-250AI. The creed needs to be necked down and not sure if needs to be neck trimmed afterwards. The AI of course needs fire forming. Both are ballastically nearly identical.

I've read of a few people getting insane velocity out of 18 inch barrel. I haven't experimented with mine or pushed it too hard. I'm getting 3100 from an 80 grainer and a 22 inch barrel with W760. It's a 1 inch at 300 load.

I'm waiting for the new Nos AB in 70 grains and plan to try it out with RL 26.

My APR built AI shot 3/4 inch for 25 shots while fire forming.
The 22 creed has had brass available from alpha munitions and few others for a while now. But necking down is still an option if you want to do that. Hornady has brass coming too. 22creed May not be better then a 22-250ai but when you have new brass available to load or neck down 6.5cm or 6cm it becomes slightly better to some.

Ill be getting a 6.5prc and maybe a 18” 308
Or two twins in 6.5prc...my old man is a little more particular and his birthday is in June. I’ll have to chat with Robert.

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Old 01-20-2019, 03:37 PM   #549
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I'm thinking 6.5 creedmoor or PRC, something to bridge between my .243 and .300 winmag that doesn't need a brake. I need a longer range pronghorn/deer/hog round, say out to 500

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Old 01-20-2019, 03:43 PM   #550
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Tier 1 without a brake..............everyone should own a .280 Ackley Improved.
What's the difference between 280AI and 7mag?
Aren't they pretty similar?
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