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Old 11-18-2019, 10:50 PM   #1
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I am looking for a black or yellow lab breeder that breeds for health, and then temperament. I am looking for a smaller framed British lab. Blood trailing, and retrieving. I prefer a dog that is not wound tight for field trials. Hunting parents is a must. Do yall have any recommendations on breeders? Thanks
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Old 11-18-2019, 10:54 PM   #2
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Pay attention to the pedigree. Even if you have no interest in running UKC and AKC tests - if past dogs frequently achieved titles they are proven to be trainable to some of the most versatile levels. (Doesn’t mean that untitled dogs aren’t that trainable so relax keyboard killers)
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:08 AM   #3
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I am looking for a black or yellow lab breeder that breeds for health, and then temperament. I am looking for a smaller framed British lab. Blood trailing, and retrieving. I prefer a dog that is not wound tight for field trials. Hunting parents is a must. Do yall have any recommendations on breeders? Thanks
I know a few good breeders but most breed the American style labs that run smaller and more athletic. The british labs are normally the stockier big headed labs.
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:43 AM   #4
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I am ultimately going for the on off switch that english/British dogs have. I care less about looks but prefer a smaller dog because it's easier on their joints and traveling with them
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:49 AM   #5
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I am ultimately going for the on off switch that english/British dogs have. I care less about looks but prefer a smaller dog because it's easier on their joints and traveling with them
I have an American female that has a pretty good off switch. A lot of good breeders know that most people don't want those high strung dogs and are breeding dogs to try to keep them with the high drive but also have an off switch and make a good pet.

I got my dog from Jason Hall who owns Muddy Oak retrievers. Here

Also would recommend LL Gun Dogs here

or Best retrievers here

Whoever you talk to just be sure to tell them what you are looking for. All 3 of the ones I recommended also train dogs so they know that's what people want
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:56 AM   #6
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Justin and Amber at LL Gun Dogs would be a good starting point. These people are extremely devoted to their dogs and hunting. I bought a GSP from them and have been extremely happy with my dog. Next lab I get will be coming from their kennel. Good folks!
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:40 PM   #7
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:48 PM   #8
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http://ganderhilllabs.com/
Great pedigree and bloodline. My chocolate from them was the best dog I’ve ever had
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Old 11-19-2019, 02:34 PM   #9
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I’m on my second lab from Waterbound Labradors. Amazing dogs/breeder. He no longer has a website, but you can find Roy on FB.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?i...content_filter

Hopefully that link works.

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Old 11-19-2019, 02:45 PM   #10
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my friend just did a repeat breeding with his American female to a CHMH English male. Both parents hunt and have all health testing done. The last litter of pups are 6 months old and have a great on off switch even at such an early age. all 4 pups have been in duck blind or dove field already around guns and water and have even made some assisted retrieves. they all just started gun dog training this month.

Text/Call him at 832-465-5943
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Old 11-19-2019, 04:07 PM   #11
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Range creek Labradors. But there are many good breeders. Look for the Dickendall bloodlines and expect to pay between $1500 and $2500 for a good well breed English lab. Might seem like a lot but believe me it will be worth every single penny. Our "Ranger" has brought my family so much joy and happiness I would pay 10x more.
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Old 11-19-2019, 04:54 PM   #12
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I would also look into LLGunDogs, I purchased a Started BLF from them, they are very knowledgeable and devoted to the dogs. To this day, they have an open line for questions.
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Old 11-19-2019, 06:34 PM   #13
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V bar ranch kennels
Where our British lab came from

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Old 11-19-2019, 06:45 PM   #14
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Botar Labs out of Oklahoma is where we got our Jinx. They breed show dogs and service dogs but Jinx has turned out to be a great hunter. We got a smokin deal on him because the breeder deemed him to not be “show” quality.
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Old 11-19-2019, 11:31 PM   #15
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I am looking for a black or yellow lab breeder that breeds for health, and then temperament. I am looking for a smaller framed British lab. Blood trailing, and retrieving. I prefer a dog that is not wound tight for field trials. Hunting parents is a must. Do yall have any recommendations on breeders? Thanks
www.uklabs.com (Wildrose Kennels)

Best of the best or Orvis wouldn't recommend them.

Best Lab I ever owned came from them.
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:14 AM   #16
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Thanks yall. Are there any more budget minded places? My last lab I got for free at 2 and he would be what many call a finished dog. I trained him myself and gave him good food. Hand signals, steady at the shot. I could run hi. On blind retrievers with no problem.
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:34 AM   #17
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If you are going to have high demands expect to pay for it or get real lucky. Go grab a handful of cheap pups or dogs from the shelter and start sorting through them.
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:04 AM   #18
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Budget minded dogs can be found and turned into decent hunting dogs. I had one years ago. Got her for 200.00 and she was a duck machine until she had to be put down at 3 yrs old due to genetic health issues. Never again would I buy and invest in a dog that did not come from health tested parents.

I cant even tell you the amount of money I have in my female now between heath testing, vetting, training. She is due to have pups jan 3. I will have over 3k in the stud fee, TCI (artificial insemination), ultrasounds, puppy shots, wormer, declaw removal, not to mention the time missed from work when the litter is born and the work and time that goes into making sure the pups survive the first week. The English CHMH male that she is bred to has to be worth over 100k between show training, gun dog training, hunt test, shows, travel, stud fees that he brings in weekly, etc... It cost money to produce proven healthy dogs.
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Old 11-20-2019, 09:06 AM   #19
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I have a litter due 11/30/19 and one due 12/07/19. Top American field trial lines. All parents have hip/eye/elbow clearances, and are EIC and CNM clear.
Both dams are directly from Field Champion sires. Sire of one litter is Master Hunter and 2019 Master National Qualifier. Sire of the other litter was on the National Derby List, and is Qualified All Age.
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Old 11-20-2019, 09:45 AM   #20
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Thanks yall. Are there any more budget minded places? My last lab I got for free at 2 and he would be what many call a finished dog. I trained him myself and gave him good food. Hand signals, steady at the shot. I could run hi. On blind retrievers with no problem.
I personally would not buy another American Breed lab from past experiences. Not all, but the majority of ones I have been around and that has been a bunch are not able to live indoors. Only way I would if I bought an older one and could see their temperament. Puppies a lot of time no way of telling.

British lab is the way I would go. The temperament's are there and non vocal whining.

You are planning on having this dog for 10+ years and go cheap?? Something I take care of 24/7, and have to pay for I want the best. Health clearances and parents to back it up. Alot of good breeders have waiting list. Get on a list put your deposit and then by the time your pup is ready you will have the money.

Yes it can be done with a shelter dog or cheap dog. But, what if they do not work out? You gotta start all over. Not all well bred dogs work out either, but you have a higher chance they will.

Sorry long post, just like talking dogs.
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Old 11-20-2019, 09:46 AM   #21
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Wildrose Kennels

Or

Southern Oak Kennels
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:09 AM   #22
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Good info.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:18 AM   #23
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........Never again would I buy and invest in a dog that did not come from health tested parents.
This, period.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:32 AM   #24
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3M labs in Tigertown, TX.
That's where I got my current duck dog. They breed dogs for all sorts of work, hunting, narcotics, bomb detection, military/police use.
All around great dogs.
Mine is 4 and he is a great duck dog and pet.
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