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Old 08-08-2021, 07:10 PM   #1
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:17 PM   #2
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You represent a STS shirt & buy your gun on GB...I'm gonna cal Mark & Zack to have you cut off!!

I'm a horrible sidearm shot but say my EDC 9 is way mejor by chingos!!
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:33 PM   #3
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Browning Hi Power.
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Old 08-08-2021, 08:37 PM   #4
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Old 08-08-2021, 08:49 PM   #5
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Old 08-08-2021, 08:59 PM   #6
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I like the HK P7M8 more better!
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Old 08-08-2021, 08:59 PM   #7
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CZ 75 gotta be up there. Only the 1911 has been copied more.


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Old 08-08-2021, 09:00 PM   #8
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High fence - low fence. Chevy, Dodge or a Jeep.

I would say a FN or Sig. Everybody has an openion and an ++++++++......................

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Old 08-08-2021, 09:12 PM   #9
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Browning hi power all the way.
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Old 08-08-2021, 09:13 PM   #10
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What LEO carry.
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Old 08-08-2021, 09:19 PM   #11
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I didn't know there was still a shortage on 9mm?
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Old 08-08-2021, 09:33 PM   #12
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browning hi power, aka p35,,,,, of which the cz75 is modeled after... and i have shot more than a few different 9mm during my 30 years as an leo and range officer,,,,, there are actually a lot of good ones, but the hi power was and still is the best from my experience.....
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Old 08-08-2021, 10:07 PM   #13
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alright then , i'll dust off the belgian high power and do a video on it next time...

and Mark Jackson would not cut me off ... he's got plenty of my $$ over the years

9mm ammo shortage ... i mean reasonably priced ...

what LEO carry ... many german dept carried this pistols, some other countries too

beretta 92 ? please ... didn't those slide break and pop you in the face ?
glock is a workhorse , p7 is a piece of art
sold my 19's.. had 3 or 4 of them at one point .. sold my last one few months back when i got my hellcat.
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Old 08-08-2021, 10:10 PM   #14
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As far as pistols designed for 9mm? I’d have to say OP’s pick has a lot of merit. Although it depends on your criteria. For me, I’d pick the Glock 17/19. 9mm 1911s are really starting to dominate my future spending plans, but I’ll count them out of this argument. Never been a huge High Power fan. Great pistol, just not for me.
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Old 08-08-2021, 10:13 PM   #15
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The two top 9mms would be the CZ-75 and the Browning Hi Power. I personally would give a slight advantage to the CZ.
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Old 08-09-2021, 06:40 AM   #16
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Wilson Combat EDC-X9 for me.
Many say that if John Moses Browning were alive today this would be his updated version of the 1911.
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Old 08-09-2021, 07:16 AM   #17
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Old 08-09-2021, 07:57 AM   #18
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H&k,p7,m8,m13 no comparison!
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:11 AM   #19
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And to be clear i mean by that from a design standpoint. I watched a video the other day from wilson combat claiming the 1911 is the best carry design , based on the grip safety and cocked and locked mechanism. I would argue for that point that the p7 is even a superior design over that. But i also know that until you own and shoot one, it doesn't really sink in. years ago a man showed me his gun collection and a p7 was his #1
At the time , i looked at it , handled it for a second and gave it back to him , not really understanding what he was trying to tell me .. 10 years later ... i finally get it.

a side note not in the video, a p7 also has a lower bore axis than even a glock.
also note that the barrel is fixed to the frame , making it extremely accurate.
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:13 AM   #20
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the two top 9mms would be the cz-75 and the browning hi power. I personally would give a slight advantage to the cz.
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Old 08-09-2021, 10:48 AM   #21
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I haven't owned enough 9's to know what's the best one. However the best one I have owned to date is my Sig P320 M18. Actually I bought 2 of these and Dreamroper got the other one. Fits her uniform in the Texas State Guard. Mine shoots better than I am capable of. First 50 rounds of cheap white box 115 gr for breaking in at 7 yards. Have now put better than 500 through it with out a single burp. I am more accurate with my 1911's than this one maybe because the 1911 was what I was trained on back in 1966 but I like the 18 or 22 round firepower of the Sig. I also have the P226R in .357 Sig but it is not as fun to shoot although it is just as accurate. My only complaint might be the P320 could possibly a better trigger but then I am not used to striker triggers either.
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Old 08-09-2021, 10:55 AM   #22
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The EDC does not incorporate the grip safety...more of a 1911 cousin.

The staccato should be mentioned as well.
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Old 08-09-2021, 10:57 AM   #23
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The IA Jerico is one fine pistol too
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Old 08-09-2021, 11:04 AM   #24
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Old 08-09-2021, 11:05 AM   #25
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alright then , i'll dust off the belgian high power and do a video on it next time...

beretta 92 ? please ... didn't those slide break and pop you in the face ?
I don't know where you get your info from, this is from Pew-pew:

Reliability and Military Issues
This is absolutely one of the most reliable guns on the market. I carried one that was likely older than I was when I was in the service, and it functioned flawlessly.

The Beretta, in general, has proven to be one of the most reliable pistols out there, passing three separate military tests without a hitch.


My civilian model is just as reliable as the M9 I used in the USMC. It has a direct feed system that removes the requirement for a feeding ramp. The magazine feeds directly into the barrel, and this reduces a failure point.


The Beretta 92FS is one of my favorite pistols. The numerous models can be confusing, its still an excellent weapon.

Even to this day, Id gladly take the M9 to war and back again.
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Old 08-09-2021, 11:14 AM   #27
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Old 08-09-2021, 11:46 AM   #28
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i would say that about glock clones.. p80's and just about everything out there copying the original glock recipe ..

not that there's anything wrong with that ...

but show me any other gun that can cycle with the extractor removed.
show me another striker fired pistol that can be reset and fired again without 2 hands to rack the slide

for that matter show me an other striker fired pistol with a factory 2lb trigger..

i'm not saying there are not good pistols out there.. there are many .. and i own most of the ones y'all mentioned but the p7 is in a league of its own, it operates like no other pistol out there, and until you own one , you probably would not understand.. as seen in this thread.

i'd love to see a show of hands of people who own one of these and don't think it's the most special 9mm carry pistol they own.

and i have 1911's , 2011's , cz's , browning HP , glock , steyr .. and others and i like them all ... but the p7 is just different , beautiful and perfect ...

kinda like an sr71 was to a plane or a Duesenberg was to a 1920 automobile
there are others as or more capable in certain ways... but these are iconic.

that's what the p7 is "to me".
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ported and carry pistol should never be used in the same sentence.

just my opinion.

looking into it... those may actually be faux ports ..

kinda like a plastic hood scoop on a 6 cyl dodge charger ...

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So, I'm wondering why H&K doesn't manufacture the P7 anymore. From Gun Nuts Media:

The P7 was ridiculously expensive to manufacture and while the compact size of the pistol was excellent from a carry perspective it achieved those dimensions with a gas-powered operating system that heats the gun up like a soldering iron when you put more than a few magazines worth of ammo through the gun in a relatively short period. Despite the heat shield those things got quite hot. I say “those things” because he didn’t have a P7M13, he had four of them. He had to constantly rotate his pistols to keep up with the rest of us shooting something more pedestrian like my Beretta 92. When we shot on the reactive steel range, even with four pistols to rotate, he had to quit quite a bit before the rest of us because his pistols were simply too hot to hold anymore.
As much as I love the P7, they had some flaws and were entirely too expensive even in the pre-Glock world. Post Glock there’s absolutely no hope for them.
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i'd love to see a show of hands of people who own one of these and don't think it's the most special 9mm carry pistol they own.
That's obviously a loaded question. For those in the know it's no doubt. I have a M13 but don't carry it. Too heavy. But if I knew I was gonna need it I would.
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I can get behind the cz75 argument.

I would love to shoot the dan wesson dwx, and a laugo arms alien though.
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I can get behind the cz75 argument.

I would love to shoot the dan wesson dwx, and a laugo arms alien though.
Saw on GB one of the first 500 signed aliens went for $10k
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Glock 19, Sig 320 and Sig365 are iconic.
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I can get behind the cz75 argument.

I would love to shoot the dan wesson dwx, and a laugo arms alien though.

I owned a TSO and that dude would flat shoot. Almost like cheating. Would love to try a DWX


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I will have to agree with this.
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.... beretta 92 ? please ... didn't those slide break and pop you in the face ?
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Not the slides the lugs on the barrel.
I learned how to shoot in the Corps.
While I was in Security Forces we carried the 92FS. They pounded into us to check them for cracking EVERYTIME we cleaned them.
First day we shot them we went through like 500 rds each. Why? To desensitize us is my guess. I had blisters on both thumbs.

I personally never had an issue with it. I just didn't like it. Why big hands. I wear a 2XL glove. It's what we were issued so it's what I carried..

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I like the HK P7M8 more better!
You can't say you have the best until you've shot one of these. I keep mine in the safe and take it out from time to time. Best. Firearm. Ever. Don't forget the delayed blowback. From the weight and the delayed blowback, back on target is FAST.

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So, I'm wondering why H&K doesn't manufacture the P7 anymore. From Gun Nuts Media:

The P7 was ridiculously expensive to manufacture and while the compact size of the pistol was excellent from a carry perspective it achieved those dimensions with a gas-powered operating system that heats the gun up like a soldering iron when you put more than a few magazines worth of ammo through the gun in a relatively short period. Despite the heat shield those things got quite hot. I say “those things” because he didn’t have a P7M13, he had four of them. He had to constantly rotate his pistols to keep up with the rest of us shooting something more pedestrian like my Beretta 92. When we shot on the reactive steel range, even with four pistols to rotate, he had to quit quite a bit before the rest of us because his pistols were simply too hot to hold anymore.
As much as I love the P7, they had some flaws and were entirely too expensive even in the pre-Glock world. Post Glock there’s absolutely no hope for them.
Maybe it's an M13 thing? I'll admit that my P7M8 gets pretty dang hot after a lot of rounds but it isn't noticeable until the round count gets up there. If you are using it as a range toy that might be an issue. As a point of reference, I shot my P7M8 my first time qualifying for CHL many years ago and did a one-on-one class with a former special forces and now peace officer. He made me go through 500 rounds in pretty short order and I was fine right up until the end.

The delayed blowback keeps hot gases longer and heats it up...

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Maybe it's an M13 thing? I'll admit that my P7M8 gets pretty dang hot after a lot of rounds but it isn't noticeable until the round count gets up there. If you are using it as a range toy that might be an issue. As a point of reference, I shot my P7M8 my first time qualifying for CHL many years ago and did a one-on-one class with a former special forces and now peace officer. He made me go through 500 rounds in pretty short order and I was fine right up until the end.

The delayed blowback keeps hot gases longer and heats it up...
yup.. as much as i shoot mine it's never been an issue , you'd have to have many mags loaded and shoot a course or something .. not really what it's made for anyways ..
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I thoroughly enjoy shooting my Beretta PX4 Storm.
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Old 08-10-2021, 08:55 PM   #43
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Old 08-11-2021, 07:09 AM   #46
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I have to agree on the Grand Puissance 1935. It has not changed at all since its inception. There have been double action designs. But the gun has stayed the same since Dudienne Saive completed it. The 1911 has not changed much either.
The CZ75 changed the game for Wonder 9's.
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Old 08-11-2021, 07:19 AM   #47
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That's what I carried as my service pistol back in the early 2000's.
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Old 08-11-2021, 10:05 AM   #48
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The best at what? Its not the prettiest or fanciest, but it did change the gun world. It was/is super cheap, super safe, super reliable, super simple & super available and has become the 9mm measuring stick of sorts.


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Old 08-11-2021, 10:12 AM   #49
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And everyone's strapped with a Glock..
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Why wouldn’t someone tell you right up front what kinda pistol it is. I still don’t know.
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