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Old 05-12-2020, 02:30 PM   #1
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Once again- back to the great folks of Texas for solving a problem! God bless Texas.

We’re building our retirement home in Montana. The 30x40 garage has 1/3 as a workshop walled off.

In the garage section, I had 2 ceiling light boxes put over each vehicle. I may not need the second ones, but I wanted them wired-in now. There will be 2 in that area, and 3 third over the sink.

In the shop (13x30) I have 5 light boxes- 1 over the workbench area, and 4 others around the area, including 1 above the garage door- for when the door is closed and I want to work on some there.

What flush mount ceiling led lights to buy? I was thinking the flush mount lights sold at Costco, so I bought one. After reading the poor reviews online, I didn’t open the box and returned it.

There’s a a hundred models online- what has worked for y’all?


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https://www.amazon.com/Hyperikon-Vap...9314732&sr=8-3

These are the ones that a buddy of mine swears by. He builds metal buildings for a living. They are nice and slim so he can flush-mount them to a perlin edge and it makes for a very clean look.
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Old 05-12-2020, 03:26 PM   #3
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I had 4 round UFO LED's as the electrician called them installed in my 30x40 shop last month and they're great! Got tired of the Florescent lights not coming on in the cold when I was trying to hook up the boat in the dark!
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Thanks for posting, I needed the same help.
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I retro fit the ones the same size as my old 4 foot fluorescent tubes. They put out a lot of light. No noise and no heat. I don’t think you can go wrong with the new technology LED lighting.
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Old 05-12-2020, 04:20 PM   #6
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I dont have a pic handy. But I got UFO high bay LEDS on TBH recommendation from a previous thread from primelights.com out of austin.

30x50 building, 16' eave height, 21' peak. Primelights recommended 6 at 19k lumens each. More than enough, im super happy w them.
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I have 6 high bay leds that are about 15”x15” fixtures. I think there my are 12,000 lumens each. It’s more light than I could ever need in that shop. I can’t remember the brand?

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Thanks for posting, I needed the same help.

You’re welcome.

I was looking at the lights recommended.


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Old 05-12-2020, 10:00 PM   #9
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I put 4 of these in my new 24 x 24 shop I am working on.you could operate in There. Got them at Home Depot.
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:04 PM   #10
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I bought a ten pack from Amazon.. i did all the electric myself, just ran plugs up on the ceiling. These are plug ins.. i could plug 20 of them in, but the 10 light it up enough to land planes!!

5500 lumens each i believe
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https://www.amazon.com/Hyperikon-Vap...9314732&sr=8-3

These are the ones that a buddy of mine swears by. He builds metal buildings for a living. They are nice and slim so he can flush-mount them to a perlin edge and it makes for a very clean look.

I believe my younger brother did the same.
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I went with these in my 30x50 pole barn because of the reviews on Amazon. My son and I did all the electrical plug wiring ourselves. All wired to 2 three way switches....and linkable. Easy peasy, affordable, they look nice and are crazy bright IMO.

Sunco Lighting 4 Pack Industrial LED Shop Light, 4 FT, Linkable Integrated Fixture, 40W=260W, 5000K Daylight, 4000 LM, Surface + Suspension Mount, Pull Chain, Utility Light, Garage- Energy Star https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D94M16B..._HW2UEbHC5S7QH


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Old 05-13-2020, 08:28 AM   #13
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check out www.ruralking.com They have a large assortment of lights. Have bought about 15 from them and not 1 problem.
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Old 05-13-2020, 08:48 AM   #14
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I went with these in my 30x50 pole barn because of the reviews on Amazon. My son and I did all the electrical plug wiring ourselves. All wired to 2 three way switches....and linkable. Easy peasy, affordable, they look nice and are crazy bright IMO.

Sunco Lighting 4 Pack Industrial LED Shop Light, 4 FT, Linkable Integrated Fixture, 40W=260W, 5000K Daylight, 4000 LM, Surface + Suspension Mount, Pull Chain, Utility Light, Garage- Energy Star https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D94M16B..._HW2UEbHC5S7QH


I have a couple of the Harbor fright lights and the work great but these look better and are about the same price. and they are linkable.
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Old 05-13-2020, 11:32 AM   #15
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(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 4000K (Daylight Glow), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded Electric with Built-in ON/Off Switch
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These are great for overall light and under cabinets
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You guys are great. Let me know if you want to hint elk in SW Montana. Three miles from our gate gate to 2 block management ranches, 5 miles from the gate there’s more block management, BLM and National Forest. Wolves and mountain lions to deal with but officially no griz- but we know they’re there.


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Old 05-13-2020, 02:17 PM   #17
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I have a 24x30 shop. I just changed out the florescent bulbs to the hyperkion 6K LED bulbs and they are so much brighter. Cant comment on longevity of the bulbs as its only been about 6 mos, but for the price and light it was worth it
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Old 05-13-2020, 07:38 PM   #18
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Old 05-13-2020, 08:06 PM   #19
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I put up 9 of these in my garage and they are super bright. Linkable, but I ran a box for each one and have a coverplate with a hole on a box for each one. Ran the wire in the hole and make the connection there.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I put up 9 of these in my garage and they are super bright. Linkable, but I ran a box for each one and have a coverplate with a hole on a box for each one. Ran the wire in the hole and make the connection there.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


You need sun glasses in there. 9 was overkill buddy. 4 would have done it


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Old 05-13-2020, 09:31 PM   #21
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I put 6 of these in my 36x48 barn. I also put 6 of the 2 light fixtures in my 3 car garage. They are a Texas based company and super quick with free https://www.primelights.com/products...ns-pl-blt66wcl
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Ceiling height comes into play as much as the intensity of the lighting you choose.

So does reflective surfaces, it can amplify the perceived light (same as dark or dull surfaces can reduce it)


High bay lights are sold kind of willy- nilly online. Only a few show the recommended mounting height in the sales ad. That said - a bunch of them aren’t true high bay lights, it all depends on the optics and how well they distribute light.

High bay lights are for just that: high ceiling bays. There are Low bay lights, gotta look at that.


High bay lights have a narrower distribution pattern, so they spread evenly from a high ceiling. Put them in a low ceiling structure, and you’ll have uneven lighting, and dark or less bright spots.


The goal in a work space is even lighting, then whatever intensity is desired.


I put up 8’ strip lights in the shop at rhe Farm when we built it back in the 90’s. I retrofitted them last year to LED lamps, and removed the ballasts. So far, so good. Each strip uses 4 - 4’ lamps. Each is 1795 lumens at 5,000k color temp. There are 10 fixtures in a 40x40 space. 12’ eave height, about 14’ at the peak.


When I build my own shop, I will do a similar intensity pattern, and likely add 0-10v dimming and vacancy sensors.



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About four years ago I went to Lowe's, bought four or five, LED lights. They look like florescent light fixtures, but they are much brighter. I am not sure which ones they are, going by memory, I think they were about $52 each. I built a area for metal working, I set up both of my welders, mill and lathe within that area. I built a steel tubing frame to hang the lights from. Those lights turned out to be brighter than the four lights that have been in the shop, since before I moved in. Those lights are some large industrial light fixtures out of a large warehouse. I can turn on the LEDs, then turn off the large industrial lights, it's hard to tell I did anything. Those LEDs are bright, I don't remember what Lumen their rating is, but it must be pretty good. My electric bill went down noticeably, once I started replacing the old lights with LEDs.
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I went with these in my 30x50 pole barn because of the reviews on Amazon. My son and I did all the electrical plug wiring ourselves. All wired to 2 three way switches....and linkable. Easy peasy, affordable, they look nice and are crazy bright IMO.

Sunco Lighting 4 Pack Industrial LED Shop Light, 4 FT, Linkable Integrated Fixture, 40W=260W, 5000K Daylight, 4000 LM, Surface + Suspension Mount, Pull Chain, Utility Light, Garage- Energy Star https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D94M16B..._HW2UEbHC5S7QH


Thanks for the pic.

I'm needing lights for a 30x40 with 16' eaves and 14' to the bottom of the truss

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Thanks for the pic.

I'm needing lights for a 30x40 with 16' eaves and 14' to the bottom of the truss

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Mine has a 4/12 roof pitch with a 16’ center and 12’ side walls.
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Are those the 5k?

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I retro fit the ones the same size as my old 4 foot fluorescent tubes. They put out a lot of light. No noise and no heat. I don’t think you can go wrong with the new technology LED lighting.
I've been doing that at our company offices. It requires removing the ballast and some very easy rewiring inside the fixture. I'm not doing them all at once. I've stopped buying fluorescents and ballasts and am replacing with LEDs as things fail. We have over 60 fixtures to eventually convert over to LED and I've only done 8 so far. It's not too difficult or two expensive just doing on an as needed basis one office (4 fixtures) at a time.
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I've been doing that at our company offices. It requires removing the ballast and some very easy rewiring inside the fixture. I'm not doing them all at once. I've stopped buying fluorescents and ballasts and am replacing with LEDs as things fail. We have over 60 fixtures to eventually convert over to LED and I've only done 8 so far. It's not too difficult or two expensive just doing on an as needed basis one office (4 fixtures) at a time.


You know they have LED t8’s that go right into the fixtures, right? No rewire required.


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Yes, but it's better in the long run to get rid of the ballasts. One less thing go out and the ballasts generate quite a bit of heat and use more electricity. The bulbs still plug in the same way and the rewiring is very simple. You don't necessarily even have to remove the ballasts, just wire around them. But I prefer to take them out completely and have more room in the fixture.
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Yes, 5K which just represents the color tint. 5K is more natural daylight white light.
40W, 5000K, 4000 Lumen.

Sunco Lighting 4 Pack Industrial LED Shop Light, 4 FT, Linkable Integrated Fixture, 40W=260W, 5000K Daylight, 4000 LM, Surface + Suspension Mount, Pull Chain, Utility Light, Garage- Energy Star https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D94M16B..._.7uVEb8YJAD78

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I contacted primelights, as suggested above. They recommended 4 lights in my standard residential garage. About $300 for the 3 bulb fixtures. I will report back when received and installed.

Thanks for starting this thread...something else I forgot I needed until it was discussed on TBH.
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:03 PM   #33
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I installed lights this weekend. Removed my old can lights and mounted these to the surface. Wow! I am glad I went with their suggestion of 4 fixtures with 3 lamps per fixture. They give great light.

I have a regular 2 car garage with 8' ceiling. My wife says she can do her projects now as if she had full sun shining in.

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JayB- can I ask what those lights cost? The housings look like metal?


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Bill these were about $75 each. The housing is metal and the tubes are plastic and contain the LED. They delivered very fast. I would submit your space measurements so they can give you suggestions on # of lamps and quantity of light.

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Our checked with our builder (and son) who has these in his shop. He is really happy with the light and installation. I ordered 8.

Thanks to everybody who provided inputs. I like the vendor’s name in the upper left, too.

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I second PrimeLights. I just put 4 of the high bay 6 tube LED’s I’m my 30x40x14. Lights the whole place up and almost no shadows. It is BRIGHT in there. Great product and they are very good to talk with.
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You said flush mount. Are you mounting these to a Traditions flat ceiling or trusses like many have posted pictures of?
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You said flush mount. Are you mounting these to a Traditions flat ceiling or trusses like many have posted pictures of?
Mine went to a traditional build flat ceiling but they can mount to a truss also, I am sure.

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I dont have a pic handy. But I got UFO high bay LEDS on TBH recommendation from a previous thread from primelights.com out of austin.

30x50 building, 16' eave height, 21' peak. Primelights recommended 6 at 19k lumens each. More than enough, im super happy w them.
I'd love to see the picture.

I bought 8 of their UFOs based off the other thread as well. I have a 40 x 60 with 14' eave height. It's a pole barn so they will all be mounted at the 14' height equally.
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I have these in garage and like them.

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