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Old 01-10-2019, 11:52 PM   #1
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I have my own opinion and will hold off for now. Iím sure this has been addressed.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:55 AM   #2
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My lease boss is quick to correct members who say the word "cull" instead of management. I guess that means there's a difference
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:56 AM   #3
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We cull specific traits. We do not have enough trophies to call anything 'management' imo. Cull to us could be a younger deer, management is typically mature and has not played out as hoped. Heck, most of our trophies would be considered management bucks on high end ranches!

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Old 01-11-2019, 06:26 AM   #4
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https://discussions.texasbowhunter.c...d.php?t=719076

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Old 01-11-2019, 06:31 AM   #5
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To me, any mature buck is a trophy. An immature buck, regardless of traits, is likely being killed before its prime. Which is fine if itís legal and the hunter is happy.

It irks me a little when folks post a pic of their 130 class 5-year-old buck and call it a management buck. Thatís a trophy where most of us hunt.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:34 AM   #6
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Obviously a widely opinionated subject. The way I see it is a cull is defined as a mature deer with inferior antler genetics. Any deer on our place that's 5 or older a 120 and under is a cull. Any deer 5 or older 120 to 139 is managment.

And a trophy is in the eye of the beholder as long as he's mature.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:43 AM   #7
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Semantics but some people get but hurt over calling a management buck a cull.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:50 AM   #8
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I don't know if there is a difference in "cull" or "management" but I know a lot of the ones I have seen posted on the GS under either title would be trophies in my eyes
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:04 AM   #9
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Harvest v. Kill

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Old 01-11-2019, 07:08 AM   #10
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Not to me
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:27 AM   #11
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Harvest v. Kill

Semantics
What?????

Farming vs Hunting?

Bad example
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:35 AM   #12
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To me there is not really a difference. Both management deer and culls are deer you want removed from the herd. I will say that some distinguish between the two as a management buck being a better scoring buck that is mature but doesn't and will never score enough to ever be classified as a trophy. On the lease that I manage, we don't even try to differentiate the two. In our lease rules it says that everyone gets 1 trophy, 1 management/cull, and x amount of does.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:41 AM   #13
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To me cull is a deer with inferior traits, for example this year dad killed a 4.5 year old nubbin buck. He didn't even have a pedicle just 2 knots of bone the size of shooter marbles, and his boys were the size of peas.

To me a management buck is one you kill to get off of the feed bill, he may be a mature 8 that is a trophy. I attempt to manage my population by taking certain deer to let the others have better access to feed.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:44 AM   #14
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Management - you know, thatís not a bad deer but Iím not sure heíll produce the type of offspring weíre looking for

Cull - good Lord, somebody shoot that thing before it humps another doe!


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Old 01-11-2019, 09:10 AM   #15
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Culls are deer that need to be removed due to inadequate antler development (but not for any mythical genetic reasons, just to remove deer for population reasons that will never amount to anything). The classic definition is anything at least 3.5 years old with 7 points or less.

Management deer are deer that had desirable-enough antlers and potential to not cull at younger ages and that you've given an opportunity to mature to see what they develop into. But, they didn't advance as much as other more desirable deer so it acceptable to remove them since they are mature and will never develop into the type of deer you're managing for. The classis definitions are anything that's at least 4.5 years old with 8 or 9 points, or, anything that's at least 5.5 that scores less than 140.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:14 AM   #16
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Obviously a widely opinionated subject. The way I see it is a cull is defined as a mature deer with inferior antler genetics. Any deer on our place that's 5 or older a 120 and under is a cull. Any deer 5 or older 120 to 139 is managment.

And a trophy is in the eye of the beholder as long as he's mature.
^^^^ This is how I would break it down also (except our deer would be smaller...LOL)
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:15 AM   #17
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Obviously a widely opinionated subject. The way I see it is a cull is defined as a mature deer with inferior antler genetics. Any deer on our place that's 5 or older a 120 and under is a cull. Any deer 5 or older 120 to 139 is managment.

And a trophy is in the eye of the beholder as long as he's mature.
Basically the above if they arenít all clumped into the same catogory
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:24 AM   #18
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High fence = management
Low fence = cull

Ok, argument over!
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:29 AM   #19
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I managed to kill a cull before the harvest.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:34 AM   #20
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Management - you know, thatís not a bad deer but Iím not sure heíll produce the type of offspring weíre looking for

Cull - good Lord, somebody shoot that thing before it humps another doe!


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Herd management for dummies. I like it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:48 AM   #21
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Age/score in my book. Cull 3 yr old and younger. If a buck made it to 4 or more and doesn't make criteria, at that point I would say management. Hard for me to call a 130inch plus deer a cull.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:58 AM   #22
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Management the biggest 8-9 point you can kill thats not a trophy. Cull anything 7 or less. Thats the way it appears most the time
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:01 AM   #23
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To me, any mature buck is a trophy. An immature buck, regardless of traits, is likely being killed before its prime. Which is fine if itís legal and the hunter is happy.

It irks me a little when folks post a pic of their 130 class 5-year-old buck and call it a management buck. Thatís a trophy where most of us hunt.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:07 AM   #24
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To me "Cull" means we need to take some mouths off the place so we are going to "Cull" some of the smaller deer in any particular age group. "Management" is a term for a deer that is mature and will never really reach that desired trophy status that your striving for in your deer heard.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:42 PM   #25
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It's semantics...what one person call a cull another will call management. A management buck is one you are going to "cull" from the herd so ....it's a cull.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:51 PM   #26
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To me "Cull" means we need to take some mouths off the place so we are going to "Cull" some of the smaller deer in any particular age group. "Management" is a term for a deer that is mature and will never really reach that desired trophy status that your striving for in your deer heard.
About what I think. We donít cull till they are at least three though.
Low fence so we donít see an over abundance of mature bucks.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:04 PM   #27
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Way I see it, you either have a trophy or a cull. "management" was created to justify shooting a certain scoring buck on big leases.

He's either a trophy buck, or your "manage" to "Cull him". If you kill him knowing he isn't a trophy, and to get him out of the herd, you just culled him. Call him whatever you want.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:05 PM   #28
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could be different on every property.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:13 PM   #29
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Outsider looking in...relatively new to the sport with five skins on the wall, three of which were taken Dec 1 and 2 this year on a meat-seeking expedition.

From what I have gained in my quest for knowledge and learning the sport, "Culling" the herd would be to harvest deer that those hunting the land have deemed inferior; a deer that has hit his "ceiling" of growth; has no potential, or the potential shown in a younger deer isn't enough to allow to continue breeding inferior genes.

Management, at least to me, and I may be way off here (and this is a great learning opportunity to me) would be the steps taken on the land being hunting to ensure the highest quality/potential is reached. To me, culling is a part of management, as are food plots, protein, changes to the environment to increase survival/growth of the herd.

Is there something I am missing here? Good conversation and will read up on the other thread someone posted early on in this one.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:14 PM   #30
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It's semantics...what one person call a cull another will call management. A management buck is one you are going to "cull" from the herd so ....it's a cull.
I disagree!!It's...what one person call a management another will call cull. A cull buck is one you are going to "manage" from the herd so ....it's a manager.
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