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Old 01-10-2019, 07:26 PM   #1
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This evening a good buddy and I were ringing steal @ 1000 yards. We were taking turns and religiously making hits. Both guns were shooting well under .5 moa at that distance. I shot my last round of the day and was getting ready to pack up when he yells hold on a doe. He ranged it called 790. I dialed held wind and sent it. Impact ! We trailed her about 80 yards and she was still a little alive so I slit her throat. Hit was behind the shoulder. Iím very pleased with my Crimson Acurracy 22 creedmoor. I also have a confirmed 500 yard onn a white tail buck with it this year numerous predators as well. I understand this was really pushing the limits of this caliber but it happen. Whether it was luck or skill the doe is dead.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:29 PM   #2
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Congrats on the kill, but in my opinion a .22 is a little small for deer!

My personal rule is I use a 6mm or bigger on big game!
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:29 PM   #3
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to each his own...
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:35 PM   #4
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Congrats man! That's one helluva shot..

I'm liking the 22cm more and more.

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Old 01-10-2019, 07:36 PM   #5
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You lost me when you said “sent it”. That is reserved for 6.5 creedmore snipers only.


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Old 01-10-2019, 07:38 PM   #6
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Nice shootin' Tex!
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:39 PM   #7
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Long distance is definitely addicting!
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:40 PM   #8
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Sounds like some great shooting to me, congrats.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:41 PM   #9
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Nice shooting. A 22creed kills very well. I’ve handled several does with it using 80.5 berger’s and 78gr tsx’s at 3420 and all have been drt where they stand. Lung shots. 22-250 will do it too. Granted distance will handicap I never shoot beyond 250 using them.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:57 PM   #10
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Congrats on the kill, but in my opinion a .22 is a little small for deer!

My personal rule is I use a 6mm or bigger on big game!
Iím pushing a 75 gr eld-m at a 3636 average. Right up there with 6mms!
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:07 PM   #11
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Man that is some dang fine shooting. I've taken several does between 250 and 300 and thought I was a bad *** for that.
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:12 PM   #12
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Nice shooting. Don’t worry about the haters
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:25 PM   #13
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:31 PM   #14
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Not my longest, but the one Iím most proud of is a 20lb coyote at 310.

Shot with my 300BLK



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Old 01-10-2019, 09:57 PM   #15
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That’s awesome, congrats!
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Dang! Nice shot!

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Old 01-10-2019, 10:11 PM   #17
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You lost me when you said ďsent itĒ. That is reserved for 6.5 creedmore snipers only.


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I was taking a swig of my beer when I read this. Bad timing.


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Old 01-10-2019, 10:18 PM   #18
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:36 PM   #19
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Everything about this post makes me cringe.
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:49 PM   #20
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Everything about this post makes me cringe.

Care to elaborate as to why this makes you cringe ?
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:57 PM   #21
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Iím pushing a 75 gr eld-m at a 3636 average. Right up there with 6mms!
And I was happy getting them to 3k
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:28 AM   #22
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Good shot! Mine is 650’witb a 260 on a long beard.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:25 AM   #23
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Everything about this post makes me cringe.
Posts like yours make me cringe. Good shot OP.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:14 AM   #24
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.5 MOA - I’m thinking that is pretty good at a 1000 yards
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:31 AM   #25
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I'll say it. Lucky, poor shot and not a "Great Shot". A great shot would have been a DRT deer that didn't suffer the 790 yard walk/ride it took before you could put her down.

Sorry, but I believe hunting a GAME animal deserves more respect and accuracy than a 790 yard shot can guarantee. Also, what bullet were you shooting at 1000 yards target practice? Surely you weren't using a hunting round?
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:58 AM   #26
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I'll say it. Lucky, poor shot and not a "Great Shot". A great shot would have been a DRT deer that didn't suffer the 790 yard walk/ride it took before you could put her down.



Sorry, but I believe hunting a GAME animal deserves more respect and accuracy than a 790 yard shot can guarantee. Also, what bullet were you shooting at 1000 yards target practice? Surely you weren't using a hunting round?


Small caliber, non-hunting Bullet......

What could possibly go wrong?


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Old 01-11-2019, 07:01 AM   #27
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385 yard neck shot with just a Remington 700 270 caliber, dropped in his tracks. To me kind of boring that's why I only bow hunt now.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:02 AM   #28
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Everything about this post makes me cringe.
I'm with you, bud.

Does it still count as a "confirmed kill" if you have to walk 5 min to go cut its throat with a pocket knife?
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:34 AM   #29
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Nice shooting. A 22creed kills very well. Iíve handled several does with it using 80.5 bergerís and 78gr tsxís at 3420 and all have been drt where they stand. Lung shots. 22-250 will do it too. Granted distance will handicap I never shoot beyond 250 using them.
Except this one didnt kill. It just hobbled the deer enough to allow the man to slit her throat.
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I'll say it. Lucky, poor shot and not a "Great Shot". A great shot would have been a DRT deer that didn't suffer the 790 yard walk/ride it took before you could put her down.

Sorry, but I believe hunting a GAME animal deserves more respect and accuracy than a 790 yard shot can guarantee. Also, what bullet were you shooting at 1000 yards target practice? Surely you weren't using a hunting round?
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I'm with you, bud.

Does it still count as a "confirmed kill" if you have to walk 5 min to go cut its throat with a pocket knife?
Agreed with all the above.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:42 AM   #31
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Because ethical shots are boring. Sometimes we forget we are taking somethings life.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:45 AM   #32
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Honestly after having done a year with the eldx in a 6.5 two years ago and doing this year with the eld-m. The eld-m have done great on any animal thatís been shot with it. As far as her suffering we literally shot drove down to where she was hit and walked in the brush and found her laying. As far as suffering whatís the difference when a guy makes a poor bow shot at 13 yards and hits his target in the the stomach and lets it lie till morning while the sickness takes over. Or the hunter that does the same and has to call the dog man to come in and pay him 350 dollars to find, bay, and to finish the deer for him. Does that count as his kill or the dog man who finished it. Also clearly this animal suffered as it ran for its like with a hound on its tracks. I watch dozens of whitetails a season get shot some are drt most run. We call the dogs more than we like for clients that show up raving about their shooting yet wound a deer at 80 yards. Did I say I made a great shot no. Would the doe have died if I gave her 30 mins to a hour to lay. Iím sure she would of. Didnít post this to be policed. Just thought Iíd post a ****** day I had with a buddy with a cool ending. Not another ďIím thinking of a new caliber?Ē 6.5 creedmoor maybe. 🙄
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:46 AM   #33
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Does it still count as a "confirmed kill" if you have to walk 5 min to go cut its throat with a pocket knife?
agreed.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:52 AM   #34
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Honestly after having done a year with the eldx in a 6.5 two years ago and doing this year with the eld-m. The eld-m have done great on any animal that’s been shot with it. As far as her suffering we literally shot drove down to where she was hit and walked in the brush and found her laying. As far as suffering what’s the difference when a guy makes a poor bow shot at 13 yards and hits his target in the the stomach and lets it lie till morning while the sickness takes over. Or the hunter that does the same and has to call the dog man to come in and pay him 350 dollars to find, bay, and to finish the deer for him. Does that count as his kill or the dog man who finished it. Also clearly this animal suffered as it ran for its like with a hound on its tracks. I watch dozens of whitetails a season get shot some are drt most run. We call the dogs more than we like for clients that show up raving about their shooting yet wound a deer at 80 yards. Did I say I made a great shot no. Would the doe have died if I gave her 30 mins to a hour to lay. I’m sure she would of. Didn’t post this to be policed. Just thought I’d post a ****** day I had with a buddy with a cool ending. Not another “I’m thinking of a new caliber?” 6.5 creedmoor maybe. ��
Are you asking the difference between a target round at 800 yds on a game animal and a bow shot at 13? The margin for error. That's the difference. But hey... To each their own.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:57 AM   #35
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Are you asking the difference between a target round at 800 yds on a game animal and a bow shot at 13? The margin for error. That's the difference. But hey... To each their own.


There should be no error at 13 yards with a bow if you practice for what youíre hunting and put in the time to make the shot. I could of very easily reached back and grabbed my buddies 28 nosler. But didnít. Exactly. Each their own. ĎMerica!
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:14 AM   #36
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Honestly after having done a year with the eldx in a 6.5 two years ago and doing this year with the eld-m. The eld-m have done great on any animal thatís been shot with it. As far as her suffering we literally shot drove down to where she was hit and walked in the brush and found her laying. As far as suffering whatís the difference when a guy makes a poor bow shot at 13 yards and hits his target in the the stomach and lets it lie till morning while the sickness takes over. Or the hunter that does the same and has to call the dog man to come in and pay him 350 dollars to find, bay, and to finish the deer for him. Does that count as his kill or the dog man who finished it. Also clearly this animal suffered as it ran for its like with a hound on its tracks. I watch dozens of whitetails a season get shot some are drt most run. We call the dogs more than we like for clients that show up raving about their shooting yet wound a deer at 80 yards. Did I say I made a great shot no. Would the doe have died if I gave her 30 mins to a hour to lay. Iím sure she would of. Didnít post this to be policed. Just thought Iíd post a ****** day I had with a buddy with a cool ending. Not another ďIím thinking of a new caliber?Ē 6.5 creedmoor maybe.


There is no difference. Any situation that doesnít result in a quick clean kill sucks equally.

As to the ELD-X/ELD-M discussion, thereís a reason manufacturers list different bullets for different purposes. I guess some people know better than the manufacturers.




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Old 01-11-2019, 08:20 AM   #37
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Glad you didn’t lose her but to me it was a bad idea and not very ethical. To each his own though.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:22 AM   #38
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Was you shooting at her to see if you could hit her or this was a management doe?
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:23 AM   #39
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Exactly. I physically cringed reading it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:25 AM   #40
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You mean "manbun" snipers? LOL!
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:27 AM   #41
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Was you shooting at her to see if you could hit her or this was a management doe?
Killing does off the property. I shot at her with every intention of killing her. Not just hitting her.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:33 AM   #42
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I’m with you on eldm I’ve had great results with them out of my Grendel otherwise I shoot hornady BTHPs and I’ve killed out to 650 with them. A lot of people will say unethical yada yada yada. If you have the skill set and you Gun is capable do it.

What kind of energy are you putting down at that distance with the 22creed? I’ve been thinking of doing one.

How was the wound Chanel and cavitation?
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:43 AM   #43
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I have heard nothing but good things about the eld-m at extended ranges on game, and obviously it is an accurate round for you. Congrats!
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Iím with you on eldm Iíve had great results with them out of my Grendel otherwise I shoot hornady BTHPs and Iíve killed out to 650 with them. A lot of people will say unethical yada yada yada. If you have the skill set and you Gun is capable do it.

What kind of energy are you putting down at that distance with the 22creed? Iíve been thinking of doing one.

How was the wound Chanel and cavitation?
Like 80 FPE
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:55 AM   #46
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technically the 'kill distance' was not even a foot.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:56 AM   #47
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I'll say it. Lucky, poor shot and not a "Great Shot". A great shot would have been a DRT deer that didn't suffer the 790 yard walk/ride it took before you could put her down.

Sorry, but I believe hunting a GAME animal deserves more respect and accuracy than a 790 yard shot can guarantee. Also, what bullet were you shooting at 1000 yards target practice? Surely you weren't using a hunting round?
x2!

And had to slit its throat is proof enough
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:57 AM   #48
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Like 80 FPE


Mr. ďTacticalĒ it has roughly 650# at that distance. Like I stated it was on the fringe. Still holds 1000# to 500
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Mr. ďTacticalĒ it has roughly 650# at that distance. Like I stated it was on the fringe. Still holds 1000# to 500
So thatís slightly less than a pocket knife?
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800 Foot Pounds is minimum for whitetail isnt it ? There is some really good info on minimum velocity and energy in the last Handloader magazine. I was really surprised at some bullet performance done at long distance. Once some bullets get below 1800 fps they start to fail.

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