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Old 01-09-2019, 11:43 AM   #1
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We will be meeting with our Outfitter in Dallas next weekend to finalize our dates. So, I am trying to get an idea on when is the best time for a group of four bowhunters after plains game to hunt the Limpopo area? Plan now is early August, but there might possibly circumstances requiring it to be earlier. It also seems cheaper to fly in May then it does June-August. Is May good hunting for archery guys? Appreciate any help from guys who have been!
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:46 AM   #2
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May can still be green depending on the amount of rain that fell during the current rain season.

But I have had good hunts in May so no issue.

Try and pick the dark moon phase of the month you hunt.

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Old 01-09-2019, 11:51 AM   #3
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Depends on whether you want to spot and stalk or hunt over food and water. The later the better for hunting over bait, but the greener it is the easier it will be to spot and stalk. We went in June and it was tough at times because of the rain and vegetation.
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I have only been in Sept., but have done spot and stalk on Bushbucks (2), Nyala and a Lioness with success and the rest of my animals have been over water.
Like others have said, the earlier the greener and possibly cheaper flights earlier.
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Hunting later in the season has been better for me when conditions are at their driest. Hunting water is extremely effective and traffic is high but the temps can be as well. Spotting and stalking is definitely more comfortable earlier in the season and it can still be pretty green aiding in cover during stalks. Iíve had success in June and Iíve had success in September, a good outfitter and PH will make the adjustments to give you the shot opportunities you are looking for while working with the conditions.


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Like said above, just adjust to conditions. May is Kudu rut and would be my choice for a big bull. Later in season they bait with alfalfa, and over water and is definitely more effective. Probably get shots at more species than you would spot/stalk. May is shoulder season for the airlines too, and you would probably save enough for an additional trophy fee for another animal.

I hunted Limpopo and Mpumalanga August 1-15, and it was center of winter and cold in mornings. Animals stood around until 1000 before moving.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:55 PM   #7
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May can still be green depending on the amount of rain that fell during the current rain season.

But I have had good hunts in May so no issue.

Try and pick the dark moon phase of the month you hunt.

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Will it be all spot and stalk in May or some blind hunting too?
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:03 PM   #8
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Will it be all spot and stalk in May or some blind hunting too?

You will probably do 95% hunting from a blind / elevated hide or tree stand.

Spot and stalk in Africa with the bow is extremely difficult with all the eyes around and mostly thick brush normally found in the Limpopo Province.

If the outfit knows its stuff with bow hunting May will be a good time but I will suggest going late July to August depending on the dark moon phase.

The stands will normally be busy with animals & birds visiting and keeping you occupied.

Most places in the Limpopo Province only started to receive rains late in December and early January...

Best would be to sit down and discuss all these matters with the outfitter when you meet.

He knows his concessions the best and will be able to give you all the answers you are looking for to confirm the hunting date.




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Old 01-09-2019, 03:39 PM   #10
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You will probably do 95% hunting from a blind / elevated hide or tree stand.

Spot and stalk in Africa with the bow is extremely difficult with all the eyes around and mostly thick brush normally found in the Limpopo Province.

If the outfit knows its stuff with bow hunting May will be a good time but I will suggest going late July to August depending on the dark moon phase.

The stands will normally be busy with animals & birds visiting and keeping you occupied.

Most places in the Limpopo Province only started to receive rains late in December and early January...

Best would be to sit down and discuss all these matters with the outfitter when you meet.

He knows his concessions the best and will be able to give you all the answers you are looking for to confirm the hunting date.




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Thank You! I am hoping we can leave it for August 1. I was just trying to see how bad it would be if we had to go in early May.
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:31 AM   #13
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Anyone archery hunted late May with good success?
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:12 AM   #14
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Yes, my first trip was late May. Like mentioned, greener in May. Supplemental feeding hadn't begun yet because there was plenty of green left for the animals to eat, but they still need to drink. Had plenty of success. Also, late May, early June is the rut for several species like Kudu and Impala so that is a good experience. When I went in May I went for a 7 day and killed 6 animals. Gemsbok, Kudu, Impala, Wildebeest and 2 Warthogs. The only one on my list I didn't get was a Zebra, but they are difficult with a bow. I bowhunt only. I hunt with Limcroma so they are very good about getting your opportunities, no matter what time of year.
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:12 PM   #15
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I have many trips to SA bowhunting (I also do gun) but my fave time to go is late March and early April (moon phase watch) The reason I like this time is the animals are at a total relax and have not been hunted and yes it is hunting out of hides but many times more productive to me and plus higher end trophies (not been pressured for awhile)
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:48 PM   #16
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Yes, my first trip was late May. Like mentioned, greener in May. Supplemental feeding hadn't begun yet because there was plenty of green left for the animals to eat, but they still need to drink. Had plenty of success. Also, late May, early June is the rut for several species like Kudu and Impala so that is a good experience. When I went in May I went for a 7 day and killed 6 animals. Gemsbok, Kudu, Impala, Wildebeest and 2 Warthogs. The only one on my list I didn't get was a Zebra, but they are difficult with a bow. I bowhunt only. I hunt with Limcroma so they are very good about getting your opportunities, no matter what time of year.
Do you still seem to see plenty of animals?
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Yes, I saw plenty more than I shot. Depending on the exact dates, that is right about when they start the supplemental feeding, it will depend on the property you are hunting. You will have plenty of rutting activity, animals coming to water and some spots feed will be out as well. The animals are there, that won't be a problem. You'll want to get out of the blind from time to time as well and do some spot and stalk. The main draw for the animals is water and that is the start of the dry season so they will be moving plenty to get water. You'll be fine. Lots of time the early season will produce more animals simply because most properties have a quota on the number of animals they will allow to be taken. The earlier in the season the less likely that quota will be filled. I've hunted a few properties that said everything was good to hunt except a Kudu (or whatever) because they've already taken too many off the property this season. Of course, the first thing you'll see is a really nice Kudu (or whatever ). The early season everything is still pretty wide open. I like it, just have a hard time going while the kids are still in school. Easier to ship them off to relatives during the summer.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:05 PM   #18
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Yes, I saw plenty more than I shot. Depending on the exact dates, that is right about when they start the supplemental feeding, it will depend on the property you are hunting. You will have plenty of rutting activity, animals coming to water and some spots feed will be out as well. The animals are there, that won't be a problem. You'll want to get out of the blind from time to time as well and do some spot and stalk. The main draw for the animals is water and that is the start of the dry season so they will be moving plenty to get water. You'll be fine. Lots of time the early season will produce more animals simply because most properties have a quota on the number of animals they will allow to be taken. The earlier in the season the less likely that quota will be filled. I've hunted a few properties that said everything was good to hunt except a Kudu (or whatever) because they've already taken too many off the property this season. Of course, the first thing you'll see is a really nice Kudu (or whatever ). The early season everything is still pretty wide open. I like it, just have a hard time going while the kids are still in school. Easier to ship them off to relatives during the summer.
Thatís the kind of first hand experience I was looking for. Thanks!
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:31 PM   #19
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No matter when you go, a good outfitter will get you on the animals. Just as importantly, you need a good PH. The good outfitters will run a good operation, have access to prime property and really show you a good time. The PH is the one who will affect your hunting the most. Hopefully you have a really good/experienced PH

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Old 01-10-2019, 09:03 PM   #20
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No matter when you go, a good outfitter will get you on the animals. Just as importantly, you need a good PH. The good outfitters will run a good operation, have access to prime property and really show you a good time. The PH is the one who will affect your hunting the most. Hopefully you have a really good/experienced PH

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I organized the trip. Plan is for me to sit with the outfitter.
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I have been twice. First trip was early July second mid August. Both trips were incredible, but I have to say the amount of game moving in mid August blew my mind. I really think it had more to do with the dry conditions than the time of year. Either way, because of how good our PH was, on both trips we were more constrained by budget than opportunity.


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I went this past May. Got all the animals I intended... but it was slower than normal due to rain and it was cooler(I think) than expected.

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Old 01-11-2019, 08:53 AM   #23
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I went this past May. Got all the animals I intended... but it was slower than normal due to rain and it was cooler(I think) than expected.

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I went in early September and we were covered with animals every day.
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We left on the 13th.. started hunting the 15th. We planned it for the dark of the moon cycle.
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We are going with Matsuri dark of the moon(last week of June/First week of July this summer).
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We are going with Matsuri dark of the moon(last week of June/First week of July this summer).
I could do the last week of June but not the first of July. Good luck to you guys!
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Thanks. We just looked at the moon phase and then picked the dates. If itís this summer it is around that time.


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Yessir trying to plan dark moon as well. I was looking at May 25th-Jun3rd
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Justin,

I am a bit late to the game here, and I cannot add much that has not already been said... You have already received some very good information and advice.

I would only add on to the comments from rladner in that the outfitter, or more precisely, the properties they hunt, and your PH's experience will be a big factor in your bow hunting opportunities. In other words, being there during the peak of the season on the dark week of the moon doesn't ensure bow hunting opportunities unless the properties are well managed, and the outfitter/PHs are experienced and knowledgeable bow hunters themselves... I've said it on these forums a hundred times, but it bares repeating in that nearly every outfitter in Africa offers bow hunts, yet only a handful actually have the combination of the experience, the knowledge base, and the management plan in place to ensure your best chances of success....

Rladner and I have hunted with the same outfitter for many years. I'm sure he will attest to the fact that he and I are spoiled because we hunt with an outfitter who, in my opinion, is the premier bowhunting outfitter in Africa... And, I say that having hunted with several outfitters and many more PHs over the many years I have been bow hunting in Africa. Find the right outfitter, and you will enjoy opportunity and success any time of the season that you plan your hunt.

I have hunted the Limpopo every month from April through September. In my experiences, I have had great hunts each and every month, but if you are looking for the most opportunity with the greatest variety, I would agree that planning your hunt around the dark moon from mid-May through the end of September. There is no doubt that you will have the most opportunity over water and food sources from the hides during those driest months. Timing it on the dark moon is a small advantage, but not a deal breaker in my opinion.

Spot & stalk can be done any time of the season, and your opportunity there will depend on the PH/Outfitter and the region that you are hunting. Some PHs will prefer early season regarding the thick, green bush as advantageous cover, while others may view early season as a disadvantage because of restricted visibility. Bottom line is that spot & stalking in Africa is a great challenge any time of the year. Your success will depend on both your skill and experience as well as your PHs skill and experience. An experienced PH will know when and where to try stalking as the conditions dictate. And, some luck never hurts...

If you are looking to try and take advantage of the lowest airfares, typically they are lowest from March trough mid-May, then peak through June, July, & August, then drop again in September. I personally love September to bow hunt in the Limpopo. I regard it as a sleeper month. The hunting pressure drops dramatically, yet it is still very dry and the animals still have to drink. Good luck with your planning. I will look forward to your hunting report!
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:56 PM   #34
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Justin,

I am a bit late to the game here, and I cannot add much that has not already been said... You have already received some very good information and advice.

I would only add on to the comments from rladner in that the outfitter, or more precisely, the properties they hunt, and your PH's experience will be a big factor in your bow hunting opportunities. In other words, being there during the peak of the season on the dark week of the moon doesn't ensure bow hunting opportunities unless the properties are well managed, and the outfitter/PHs are experienced and knowledgeable bow hunters themselves... I've said it on these forums a hundred times, but it bares repeating in that nearly every outfitter in Africa offers bow hunts, yet only a handful actually have the combination of the experience, the knowledge base, and the management plan in place to ensure your best chances of success....

Rladner and I have hunted with the same outfitter for many years. I'm sure he will attest to the fact that he and I are spoiled because we hunt with an outfitter who, in my opinion, is the premier bowhunting outfitter in Africa... And, I say that having hunted with several outfitters and many more PHs over the many years I have been bow hunting in Africa. Find the right outfitter, and you will enjoy opportunity and success any time of the season that you plan your hunt.

I have hunted the Limpopo every month from April through September. In my experiences, I have had great hunts each and every month, but if you are looking for the most opportunity with the greatest variety, I would agree that planning your hunt around the dark moon from mid-May through the end of September. There is no doubt that you will have the most opportunity over water and food sources from the hides during those driest months. Timing it on the dark moon is a small advantage, but not a deal breaker in my opinion.

Spot & stalk can be done any time of the season, and your opportunity there will depend on the PH/Outfitter and the region that you are hunting. Some PHs will prefer early season regarding the thick, green bush as advantageous cover, while others may view early season as a disadvantage because of restricted visibility. Bottom line is that spot & stalking in Africa is a great challenge any time of the year. Your success will depend on both your skill and experience as well as your PHs skill and experience. An experienced PH will know when and where to try stalking as the conditions dictate. And, some luck never hurts...

If you are looking to try and take advantage of the lowest airfares, typically they are lowest from March trough mid-May, then peak through June, July, & August, then drop again in September. I personally love September to bow hunt in the Limpopo. I regard it as a sleeper month. The hunting pressure drops dramatically, yet it is still very dry and the animals still have to drink. Good luck with your planning. I will look forward to your hunting report!
Thanks for taking time to respond in depth. I will be hunting with African Arrow Safaris. A bow only outfit was important to me, because I have heard of the outfits that try and pressure you to take a gun the last half of the trip and that is not what we are about. I have never hunted here, but I have talked to several references that spoke highly of the place. Including several TBH members.

The airfare savings was the main reason for wanting to look into the earlier dates. We could save a good bit of money if we went at the end of May. Going any later that August is not good for the family schedule so September is really out, otherwise we would go that route to save the money.

Glad you chimed in on the dark moon thing. I have been curious how important that is, because some of the better priced flights I have found weren't necessarily around the dark moon time.

Thanks again for the feedback!
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Thanks for taking time to respond in depth. I will be hunting with African Arrow Safaris. A bow only outfit was important to me, because I have heard of the outfits that try and pressure you to take a gun the last half of the trip and that is not what we are about. I have never hunted here, but I have talked to several references that spoke highly of the place. Including several TBH members.

Thanks again for the feedback!
Harry Nel has an excellent reputation. I'm sure you will have a great safari!
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Justin is in great hands with Harry! Justin, looking forward to meeting you at the booth this tomorrow or this weekend!
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