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Old 12-01-2021, 02:24 PM   #1
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I have a Ruger M77 7mm that my father purchased back in the mid 80s. I have used it for roughly 25 years now. It is all original and it is even still topped with the same 3x9 leupold scope he put on it the day he bought it. He killed many deer with it, as have I.

In the last couple of years, I have gotten to the point where I hate shooting the rifle due to the recoil. It is just not enjoyable, especially on the range. Lately, I have opted for my 25-06 or 7mm-08. I hate to modify the rifle (call it nostalgia, if you will) but I also hate to see it sit and collect dust.

So, to my point:
Would an aftermarket stock help with reduce recoil? Do ergonomics play a role in that? If I were to replace the stock, I would like to get something in a wood finish similar to the original stock. If you have a recommendation on style or brand of stock, please share.
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Old 12-01-2021, 02:28 PM   #2
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Maybe a limbsaver recoil pad that just slips on over the stock. That way there is no modification to the gun.
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Old 12-01-2021, 02:33 PM   #3
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If you leave that slip on pad on there long enough it will usually damage the stock finish. That may not be a concern but it does happen.
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Old 12-01-2021, 02:37 PM   #4
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if its the original Red recoil pad, they weren't very good from the beginning and over time they become harder. At least the Rugers I had did.
Definitely replace that thing.

What's the caliber by the way?
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Old 12-01-2021, 02:45 PM   #5
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I have the same gun in 30-06 and a 3x9 leupold. It’s defiantly kicks but it’s a sin to modify those guns. The walnut stock m77 is one of the most classic hunting rifles there is IMO. I’ll never sell or change mine but I bought a 6.5cm and plan to get a suppressor for a easy to shoot gun.
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Old 12-01-2021, 02:46 PM   #6
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Stock won't change anything unless it has more weight or a better pad.

I shoot a M77 All Weather in 7Mag.

Kicks hard when I shoot at the range in warm weather while wearing a tshirt.

Soft as a pillow when hunting in the cold Rockies during November.

Essentially it has no pad. A thin piece of hard rubber on plastic.
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Old 12-01-2021, 02:48 PM   #7
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if its the original Red recoil pad, they weren't very good from the beginning and over time they become harder. At least the Rugers I had did.
Definitely replace that thing.

What's the caliber by the way?
Gun is a 7mag. Yes, it is the original red pad and, yes, it is hard.

Maybe I'll just look at a new butt pad. I know the limbsaver brand. Are there better options out there?
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Old 12-01-2021, 03:17 PM   #8
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Gun is a 7mag. Yes, it is the original red pad and, yes, it is hard.

Maybe I'll just look at a new butt pad. I know the limbsaver brand. Are there better options out there?
Limb saver nitro
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Old 12-01-2021, 04:32 PM   #9
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Kick eez recoil pads work very well.

Stock ergonomics can absolutely help. Tremendously.
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Old 12-01-2021, 05:24 PM   #10
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Limbsaver, Kick-eez and Pacmayer all make a good pad for what youíre needing.

I used a Limbsaver on my dads old Ruger 77 and it made a big difference in the felt recoil.


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Old 12-01-2021, 05:34 PM   #11
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Gun is a 7mag. Yes, it is the original red pad and, yes, it is hard.

Maybe I'll just look at a new butt pad. I know the limbsaver brand. Are there better options out there?
You could drill out the stock and put some heavy filler in it, then put the pad back on it? Adding some weight to it helps with the recoil but the 7mag kicks like a mule (at lease to me) anyways. Some of the suggestions above would work well too.
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Old 12-01-2021, 05:40 PM   #12
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I would think that the only thing a different stock could do to help recoil is if it was heavier that the current one. A good recoil pad like limbsaver would help, there are also mercury tubes that can be put in the stocks to reduce recoil, you can also put on a clamp/bolt on muzzle brake. The best thing I bet you could do would be install a brake. If I remember right there is a clamp/bolt on muzzle brakes that reduce recoil around 40-45%.
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Old 12-01-2021, 05:43 PM   #13
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I saw some reduce recoil ammo in 7mm,you can try that
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Old 12-01-2021, 05:45 PM   #14
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If you don't want to alter the gun, I'd just get a slip-on recoil pad and put it on when I wanted to actually use the gun and take it off when it was stored. They take like 30 seconds to put on. I do the same thing with a Rem 700 in the old Monte Carlo stock that was passed down to me that I don't want to alter.
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Old 12-01-2021, 09:25 PM   #15
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I kind of have the same issue with an older M700 Classic in 7RM, it has the old brown Remington recoil pad that is now petrified. That, and age is creeping up on me as it is for all of us, and I just don't like much recoil anymore (still don't feel it when shooting at game). I'm considering the investment in a replacement pad like a Pachmayr Decelerator, don't feel it will detract from the gun's appearance at all. I'm keeping the original stock, it has too much character and hunting history to do away with.

I've always used a PAST recoil shield when shooting it from the bench, helps a bunch. If you handload, you can also mix some loads that produce lower recoil and are still useful in the field. May not be full bore 7RM performance, but still stout. I used some older Winchester brass, H4350, and 154gr Hornady Spire Points and got a milder recoiling 3050fps load that will still deal a hand of grief to whitetails.

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Old 12-01-2021, 09:52 PM   #16
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I kind of have the same issue with an older M700 Classic in 7RM, it has the old brown Remington recoil pad that is now petrified. That, and age is creeping up on me as it is for all of us, and I just don't like much recoil anymore (still don't feel it when shooting at game). I'm considering the investment in a replacement pad like a Pachmayr Decelerator, don't feel it will detract from the gun's appearance at all. I'm keeping the original stock, it has too much character and hunting history to do away with.

I've always used a PAST recoil shield when shooting it from the bench, helps a bunch. If you handload, you can also mix some loads that produce lower recoil and are still useful in the field. May not be full bore 7RM performance, but still stout. I used some older Winchester brass, H4350, and 154gr Hornady Spire Points and got a milder recoiling 3050fps load that will still deal a hand of grief to whitetails. Stu


^^^This^^^ I have an older M77 270 that is brutal with factory loads. I had a friend load some rounds that are so light on recoil I let my girls shoot it and I saw zero drop in deer and pig killings. Now don't get me wrong we don't try stretching it out much beyond 125-150. It may still get the job done out that far but we just don't try it.
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Old 12-01-2021, 10:12 PM   #17
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http://www.mercuryrecoil.com/

A friend of mine used the mercury tube in the buttstock of a .300 weatherly mag. Felt recoil was similar to .243. Planning to add this to my old model 70 Winchester 7mag. That thing kicks like a mule.
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Old 12-01-2021, 10:42 PM   #18
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I have the exact same gun. M77 in 7mag from 1984. I killed a ton of deer with it but I guess I got old as well. Kicks like a mule and I just donít want to shoot it anymore. I tried several different pads to no avail. Put a suppressor on it is the best way I know to reduce the recoil.
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Old 12-01-2021, 10:46 PM   #19
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Kick eez recoil pads work very well.

Stock ergonomics can absolutely help. Tremendously.
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Old 12-02-2021, 06:37 PM   #20
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not sure why.. has an m77 30/06 ... kicked like a mule. more than my boss's 340 weatherby magnum .. he shot my gun once and put it down ... tried pads .. no bueno ..

then i won a muzzle break + install at my club.. got it put on and made a world of difference .. loud , but kicked like a 243 after that .. that's what i'd recommend
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:48 PM   #21
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I have a Ruger M77 7mm that my father purchased back in the mid 80s. I have used it for roughly 25 years now. It is all original and it is even still topped with the same 3x9 leupold scope he put on it the day he bought it. He killed many deer with it, as have I.

In the last couple of years, I have gotten to the point where I hate shooting the rifle due to the recoil. It is just not enjoyable, especially on the range. Lately, I have opted for my 25-06 or 7mm-08. I hate to modify the rifle (call it nostalgia, if you will) but I also hate to see it sit and collect dust.

So, to my point:
Would an aftermarket stock help with reduce recoil? Do ergonomics play a role in that? If I were to replace the stock, I would like to get something in a wood finish similar to the original stock. If you have a recommendation on style or brand of stock, please share.
keep the original stock and get you a nice boyds thumbhole model,,, i noticed a reduction on one i had years ago
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Old 12-04-2021, 07:00 AM   #22
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Get a new stock and put the original stock in the closet. That way you can change back when you want to. I new stock should not require any rifle modifications.


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Old 12-04-2021, 07:50 AM   #23
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I went with a limbsaer on my tikka 7 mag. It made a huge difference.
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Old 12-04-2021, 08:05 AM   #24
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I saw some reduce recoil ammo in 7mm,you can try that
Thats where I would go too...Other than You could calm it down with some reloads..on liteside...Probably get it down to the 7-08 level pretty easy
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Old 12-04-2021, 10:00 AM   #25
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Maybe a limbsaver recoil pad that just slips on over the stock. That way there is no modification to the gun.
Sounds like you problem could be your birth certificate. As above, just slide the recoil pad on when using it then take it back off until next hunt.
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Old 12-04-2021, 11:42 AM   #26
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I went with a limbsaer on my tikka 7 mag. It made a huge difference.
They do work good until they melt. Then it's a mess.
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