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Old 10-09-2018, 07:48 AM   #51
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Which is really scary. Scary that someone can openly check all those boxes, run, and still have the support he's getting.. In Texas!
Thatís what I was getting at earlier. Heís running on gun control , amongst other things, IN TEXAS!!!
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Oh yeah. He checks all the communist boxes.

Government healthcare
Free college
Amnesty
Gun control

Etc...
What's wrong with free college?
We already have free k-12
What's so bad about 350million people paying for 4years of additional education for us all?

And government health care?
We already have that.
It's called Medicare and Veterans Administration
Old folks and vets are given free healthcare from the govt
I have no problem with either.
Do you?
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:19 AM   #53
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instead of saying "Come and get it" or "it ain't gonna happen" make sure you and everyone you know votes.
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:37 AM   #54
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What's wrong with free college?
We already have free k-12


And government health care?
I know none of these are free. But people's definitions can vary I guess.

For the record....NO--Beto.
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I know none of these are free. But people's definitions can vary I guess.

For the record....NO--Beto.
This X 2!!
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No such thing as a free lunch. - oldie but a goodie. And never more accurate.
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Yeah, that's what we need. We need to pay for our youth to be indoctrinated into bleeding heart liberals. I think NOT!
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:50 AM   #58
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What's wrong with free college?
We already have free k-12
What's so bad about 350million people paying for 4years of additional education for us all?
Having worked in the school system for over a decade I've come to the conclusion that the reason that the education system struggles the way it does is because not only is it free for the customer (student), the kids are forced to go. I believe this is why so few see any value in education. That's not to say that the value isn't there but most kids don't realize it.
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:54 AM   #59
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Beto Obama changed his name from Robert Francis. The same move Biraq Hussein did changing from Barry Soetoro after his dancing boy days.
Your point was nearly derailed by the bunk propaganda you seem to have swallowed... if you even believe it.
SMH

My opinion is that what our country needs is less emotional propaganda and more factual debate on issues.

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Old 10-09-2018, 09:03 AM   #60
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Yeah, that's what we need. We need to pay for our youth to be indoctrinated into bleeding heart liberals. I think NOT!
Bingo sir.
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The educational system boils down to, wait for it, THE CONSTITUTION!

there is zero mention of dept of education! Those who want free college can lobby at the state level for it, because that’s where education oversight belongs.
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At best I'd say it's poorly thought out. What I suspect is that, like all other politicians on both sides, he's posturing.
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At best I'd say it's poorly thought out. What I suspect is that, like all other politicians on both sides, he's posturing.
Yea, and what is so disappointing is that his posturing for Socialism, Gun restrictions and free abortion in TEXAS is getting support from so many... That is a sad thing in my honest opinion. We seem to be our own worst enemy for having an economy and state government that actually attracts libtards from other states where their stupid policies and beliefs have already caused those states to go down the proverbial toilet... now they want to come to TEXAS and drive us down the same "path"... pure stupidity is the way I see it. IF this guy is elected here, we will get EXACTLY what we deserve for not getting the vote out.
I am hopeful we can defeat this leftist, socialist libtard this time... but the trend is certainly not good no matter what.
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Yea, and what is so disappointing is that his posturing for Socialism, Gun restrictions and free abortion in TEXAS is getting support from so many... That is a sad thing in my honest opinion. We seem to be our own worst enemy for having an economy and state government that actually attracts libtards from other states where their stupid policies and beliefs have already caused those states to go down the proverbial toilet... now they want to come to TEXAS and drive us down the same "path"... pure stupidity is the way I see it. IF this guy is elected here, we will get EXACTLY what we deserve for not getting the vote out.
I am hopeful we can defeat this leftist, socialist libtard this time... but the trend is certainly not good no matter what.
Yep, what makes our state so great from an economical standpoint is exactly whatís attracting libtards from tax-burdened states.
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:02 AM   #65
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I wish I could take comfort in your words. I am concerned.

Every gun owner in Texas needs to vote for Cruz next month.
polls open October 22
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:07 AM   #66
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FREE this and FREE that = Bull****.

Nothing is free in this world. Someone, somewhere is paying for it.

#VetoBeto
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Open borders get you blue votes. That's how it works and the main reason that Texas is becoming purple. Say no to Beta.
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:25 AM   #68
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What's wrong with free college?
We already have free k-12
What's so bad about 350million people paying for 4years of additional education for us all?

And government health care?
We already have that.
It's called Medicare and Veterans Administration
Old folks and vets are given free healthcare from the govt
I have no problem with either.
Do you?
Your right ..so sense Obamacare has your health care benefits got better ? Have the premiums gone down ? Be honest with yourself ..there is more to come .
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:54 AM   #69
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Im disappointed by the lackluster forcifulness of the local republican party and the Cruz Campaign. I have just only recently been seeing Cruz signs in Williamson County. I displayed one of three in the whole county as of two months ago. Ive been seeing Gueros signs for over a year. It seems Cruz has already conceded WilCo to GueroORourke.

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Im disappointed by the lackluster forcifulness of the local republican party and the Cruz Campaign. I have just only recently been seeing Cruz signs in Williamson County. I displayed one of three in the whole county as of two months ago. Ive been seeing Gueros signs for over a year. It seems Cruz has already conceded WilCo to GueroORourke.

+\- GueroBetoPor-Nada
Someone went through the neighborhood near my office and painted red X's on all the Cruz signs.
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Someone went through the neighborhood near my office and painted red X's on all the Cruz signs.
I'm sure that's just to simulate how to mark a paper ballot X for Cruz...
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I know none of these are free. But people's definitions can vary I guess.

For the record....NO--Beto.
K-12 is not free to the end user?
Medicare charges for its services?

You're going to say me and you pay for it via our tax dollars but the end user does not care and pays not one red cent to utilize the service(s).

K-12 education, Veterans Healthcare and Medicare are communist SOCIALIZED programs.
You can say vet healthcare is a "fringe benefit" of serving in the military (even if only for a year or two) but it is still provided for by the govt
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:27 PM   #73
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Yeah, that's what we need. We need to pay for our youth to be indoctrinated into bleeding heart liberals. I think NOT!

What part of immunology is "republican or democrat"?

How about Differential Equations? Is that conservative or liberal?

Bayes vs Frequentist
Which one is the conservative and which the liberal?
And who would be the Libertarian????
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:31 PM   #74
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Your right ..so sense Obamacare has your health care benefits got better ? Have the premiums gone down ? Be honest with yourself ..there is more to come .
Mine have stayed the same I guess.
My employer subsidizes 95% of my healthcare costs so I dont know what they pay.
I know my share has gone up maybe $40 per month since 2012. I think I pay $160 per month now for our family but I think I started paying $120 or something like that.
But, we get "health discounts" of about $700 per month because we are "healthy".
Not obese
Don't smoke
Exercise regularly
No hypertension
Etc etc etc

Every year we all have to take a physical to prove theae things then my employer gives us that huge break on premiums
I think not smoking alone gives us $500 per month discount

Fat people and smokers cost health insurers LOTS of money
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:32 PM   #75
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Open borders get you blue votes. That's how it works and the main reason that Texas is becoming purple. Say no to Beta.
Yea open borders, and delegitimatizing citizenship should be grounds for treason. But it is literally the rally cry of the left. That and free stuff.
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:33 PM   #76
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I'm convinced gun companies are running this stuff. Stagnant gun sales after President Obama finished his terms have now got everyone going crazy over a Beto.
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The educational system boils down to, wait for it, THE CONSTITUTION!

there is zero mention of dept of education! Those who want free college can lobby at the state level for it, because thatís where education oversight belongs.
Same thing was said about high school.
100 years ago not all states forced your kid to go to school

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seco..._United_States

But in those 100 years folks fought for "compulsory education" so your ma and pa couldnt keep you out of school for no good reason which enables you to tap out words on that keyboard of yours.

Think about it, for day to day living do we truly need passed an 8th grade education?
Of course we need civics, but is that day to day?
I guess it can be if you need to know your rights from LEO and on the first Tuesday of November.


I think if someone wants to learn jet propulsion to help NASA build better rockets, then we as a society should foot the bill.
What's the difference between that and us paying for some 11th grader to learn Latin or get his leg broke on a football field?
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The educational system boils down to, wait for it, THE CONSTITUTION!

there is zero mention of dept of education! Those who want free college can lobby at the state level for it, because thatís where education oversight belongs.

There is no dept of homeland security in the constitution either but we have one.
Same for ATF

And this farm bill?
How is farmer welfare OK?
Do those farmer welfare check go to ma and pa that have a couple hundred acres of row crops or does it go to ADM and Monsanto that has hundreds of thousands of acres across the country?
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:58 PM   #79
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I think if someone wants to learn jet propulsion to help NASA build better rockets, then we as a society should foot the bill.
Serious question: Why?
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The video doesn't seem to load anymore. I tried to watch it on several different websites and none of them load...curious.
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I think if someone wants to learn jet propulsion to help NASA build better rockets, then we as a society should foot the bill.
The main difference between jet propulsion and rocket propulsion is that in rocket propulsion the oxidizer is carried with the vehicle, but jet propulsion the oxidizer is the oxygen in the air sucked into the engine of the plane. Because there is no oxidizer in space, rockets need to carry their own oxidizers with them.

Or how about just learn the difference between jets and rockets?

But please, continue learning us on the finer parts of edumication
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Using a page from TF's handbook, IMPEACH BETO if he wins. Using a false name, lying, beastiality or whatever. Doesn't even have to be true. Fight fire with fire.
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Serious question: Why?
Because it helps our SOCIETY
If we can have a team of folks come together and find a cure for cancer, would you not want the govt to fund such group?
Why?
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The main difference between jet propulsion and rocket propulsion is that in rocket propulsion the oxidizer is carried with the vehicle, but jet propulsion the oxidizer is the oxygen in the air sucked into the engine of the plane. Because there is no oxidizer in space, rockets need to carry their own oxidizers with them.

Or how about just learn the difference between jets and rockets?

But please, continue learning us on the finer parts of edumication
This is exactly why some folks live in the stone ages.
Rather than talk about the keypoints you will nitpick and say I used 'there' instead of 'their'

Keep up the good work.
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Using a page from TF's handbook, IMPEACH BETO if he wins. Using a false name, lying, beastiality or whatever. Doesn't even have to be true. Fight fire with fire.
Hmmmm, show me where those are my sentiments?
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All the cute internet forum posts in the world won't matter, if we don't get out there and VOTE. The ballot box is the only way to stop loonies like this from infesting our government. You can bet the grocery money that the democrats will be out in force on voting day. Remember, Hillary won 44% of the Texas vote against Trump. Those people are right outside the door. VOTE.
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Beto is Obama all over again. He is going to score big with the youth of this state. We have to get out and vote and drag a friend or elderly neighbor with us to the polls.

He has a rock-star feel to him but he is for all the wrong things for THIS Texan!
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Because it helps our SOCIETY
If we can have a team of folks come together and find a cure for cancer, would you not want the govt to fund such group?
Why?
You didn't answer my question...you deflected it with another question that had nothing to do with what I asked...or maybe I wasn't clear or misunderstood you...


Q: WHY should I, via being taxed at a higher rate (I'll assume), be responsible to pay for someone's "free college"?


IMO, all you are doing is robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Correct, Paul might be better off with his "free college", but its at the expense of Peter's wallet. (You honestly think Peter likes that?)

I might sound like an azz, but I work to provide for MY FAMILY, not YOUR'S...
IMO, if you want a college education & can't afford it, take out a school loan....
I should NOT be responsible for keeping YOU debt free...


Q: Why not allow each tax payer to decide for themselves if they want to contribute to "free college" or not?

They can simple indicate in a box on their return if they want to be taxed higher to pay for said free program. Why force those not wanting to pay, to pay against their will? I mean, if its such a great idea, why would you worry about giving people the option; should be 90-100% enrollment, right?


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If we can have a team of folks come together and find a cure for cancer, would you not want the govt to fund such group?
I might be mistaken, but are we not already doing that now? (funding cancer research)

And I might be mistaken, but aren't those same researchers already college educated....but without the "free college" proposed?

Plus, are you saying that "free college" will make college graduates some how more intelligent than today's students?

I mean, wouldn't it make more sense to use that "free college" money for better cancer research, equipment, staff & technology?

Q: How exactly is "free college" going to cure cancer?
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Due diligence folks. Vet these people and find out who and what they are! Democrats are now trying to hide the fact that they are liberals. Even the ones who post on this site. Due diligence!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Several TV ads going on right now that make no mention of party affiliation. Beto is one of them. Some will outright deny the fact but watch what they do.
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K-12 is not free to the end user?

Medicare charges for its services?



You're going to say me and you pay for it via our tax dollars but the end user does not care and pays not one red cent to utilize the service(s).



K-12 education, Veterans Healthcare and Medicare are communist SOCIALIZED programs.

You can say vet healthcare is a "fringe benefit" of serving in the military (even if only for a year or two) but it is still provided for by the govt


Youíre smarter than this. You know dang well the government produces absolutely nothing.

You know good and well where those ďfreeĒ benefits come from.


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Because it helps our SOCIETY

If we can have a team of folks come together and find a cure for cancer, would you not want the govt to fund such group?

Why?


Because private industry does pretty much everything more efficient and cheaper.


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You didn't answer my question...you deflected it with another question that had nothing to do with what I asked...or maybe I wasn't clear or misunderstood you...


Q: WHY should I, via being taxed at a higher rate (I'll assume), be responsible to pay for someone's "free college"?


IMO, all you are doing is robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Correct, Paul might be better off with his "free college", but its at the expense of Peter's wallet. (You honestly think Peter likes that?)

I might sound like an azz, but I work to provide for MY FAMILY, not YOUR'S...
IMO, if you want a college education & can't afford it, take out a school loan....
I should NOT be responsible for keeping YOU debt free...


Q: Why not allow each tax payer to decide for themselves if they want to contribute to "free college" or not?

They can simple indicate in a box on their return if they want to be taxed higher to pay for said free program. Why force those not wanting to pay, to pay against their will? I mean, if its such a great idea, why would you worry about giving people the option; should be 90-100% enrollment, right?




I might be mistaken, but are we not already doing that now? (funding cancer research)

And I might be mistaken, but aren't those same researchers already college educated....but without the "free college" proposed?

Plus, are you saying that "free college" will make college graduates some how more intelligent than today's students?

I mean, wouldn't it make more sense to use that "free college" money for better cancer research, equipment, staff & technology?

Q: How exactly is "free college" going to cure cancer?

This is absolutely spot on. Canít affird college? Get a loan or work two jobs like I did and pay for it yourself.

These big government proponents just donít get it. Why should my tax dollars pay to put anyone through college ?
Whatís your hard earned college degree with when everyone has one?
Answer: about what your high school diploma is worth.

Donít get me wrong - by no means is a college degree necessary to be very successful.
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What part of immunology is "republican or democrat"?

How about Differential Equations? Is that conservative or liberal?

Bayes vs Frequentist
Which one is the conservative and which the liberal?
And who would be the Libertarian????
What part of any of that makes a professor go to an Antifa rally and whack people over the head with a bicycle lock? What makes a professor call for the assassination of the President? Whether you want to admit it or not, most universities are extremely liberal.

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Old 10-09-2018, 06:32 PM   #94
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This is exactly why some folks live in the stone ages.
Rather than talk about the keypoints you will nitpick and say I used 'there' instead of 'their'

Keep up the good work.
No. He was pointing out the fact that you don't even know the difference between jet propulsion and rocket propulsion, even with your extremely valuable college education.

Keep up the good work though.
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Because private industry does pretty much everything more efficient and cheaper.


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Spot on. Heck, private industry does all this, plus tacks on better customer service and better ROI to boot. Why? Because they go out of business if they don't.

That's the problem with government and government entities. No accountability or at least a substantial lack of it. Typical government solution is to just throw more money at it; which obviously doesn't work.

I agree with the other posters on this thread stating how pathetic it is that all of these transplants from liberal strong-hold states moving to TX and bringing their liberal voting views with them. Most of them being completely oblivious of the fact that the lack of opportunities in their old states is much to do with the same liberal crap they support.
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I'm not gonna name names but I'm just gonna say some on here are just a special kinda stupid.
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:32 PM   #97
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No. He was pointing out the fact that you don't even know the difference between jet propulsion and rocket propulsion, even with your extremely valuable college education.

Keep up the good work though.
Wait.....are you saying he isnt the smartest guy in the room?
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:39 PM   #98
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I'm not gonna name names but I'm just gonna say some on here are just a special kinda stupid.
Mega Special Stupid like a fox...free college means more lefty profs to push the said lefty agenda. Just a TROLL trolling!!
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:48 PM   #99
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K-12 is not free to the end user?
Medicare charges for its services?

You're going to say me and you pay for it via our tax dollars but the end user does not care and pays not one red cent to utilize the service(s).

K-12 education, Veterans Healthcare and Medicare are communist SOCIALIZED programs.
You can say vet healthcare is a "fringe benefit" of serving in the military (even if only for a year or two) but it is still provided for by the govt
Like I said, definitions can vary.

There is ALWAYS a cost somewhere. And NOTHING provided by the government is free.

No, K-12 is not free to the end user. Like you said, it IS paid for by our tax dollars. Now, little Timmy and Suzy may not realize it is costing them anything, but what could their parents have bought for them with that $7,000 they had to spend on those school taxes? And how many fundraisers do schools have each year to continue to provide our kids with this "free" education"?

Same with Medicare. It is paid for by someone. Nothing is free.
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Old 10-10-2018, 04:42 AM   #100
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Healthcare for all will prevent these type of posts...

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