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Old 09-27-2018, 10:02 AM   #1
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Default Going on 2 yrs of Trump...reactions?

Looking over a news story about the current circus of the SCOTUS confirmation process...there was a reference to the meltdowns and reactions that happened election night. Went to youtube and watched a couple of the news show compilations with all of the histerics / doomsday / disgusted / unbelievable / what are people thinking / world is ending / etc. comments (FUNNY STUFF!!).

After two years of the Trump administration...have people's lives really been upended? Or were all the screaming reactions just noise to be making noise?

A couple of my family/extended family members were big anti-Trump folks...since the election, both have progressed in their careers, one has moved to a bigger house, but still rant about how bad everything is under Trump...?

What am I missing? Not on a touchy/feely/emotional level, but has the true-life reality part of going about day-to-day life and business, changed significantly in some way? Don't want to start a name-calling firestorm, just curious as to what factor of having Trump as POTUS done to anyone?

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Old 09-27-2018, 10:29 AM   #2
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Trump has been pretty bad for the area I live in, which voted heavily republican in the election. In general, I’m sure the economy is doing fine across the country & we’re probably the exception, but it still stings a bit and I know he’s lost a lot of votes around here (not that those votes matter in the big picture, at all).

I’d say he’s about like any other politician. Does about half of what he says, about half the people like him, and half the people hate him.
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Trump has been pretty bad for the area I live in, which voted heavily republican in the election. In general, Iím sure the economy is doing fine across the country & weíre probably the exception, but it still stings a bit and I know heís lost a lot of votes around here (not that those votes matter in the big picture, at all).

Iíd say heís about like any other politician. Does about half of what he says, about half the people like him, and half the people hate him.
Curious has to why he has been bad in your area?
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Curious has to why he has been bad in your area?
Tariffs are putting the screws to row crop farmers. Everyone understands that our trade situation needed fixing, but the sudden change shocked the market and it may never recover (beans, anyway). China can buy beans from SA & Brazil, Argentina etc. would love to take up the slack. Pretty dangerous/irresponsible gamble that really cost a lot of guys a lot of money.

That being said, itís a small percentage of the population and no one cares. The average person has no idea where their food comes from and does not care, so long as itís cheap.
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Tariffs are putting the screws to row crop farmers. Everyone understands that our trade situation needed fixing, but the sudden change shocked the market and it may never recover (beans, anyway). China can buy beans from SA & Brazil, Argentina etc. would love to take up the slack. Pretty dangerous/irresponsible gamble that really cost a lot of guys a lot of money.

That being said, itís a small percentage of the population and no one cares. The average person has no idea where their food comes from and does not care, so long as itís cheap.
I kinda figured it was agriculture related
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House prices in my neighborhood have gone through the roof, and getting hard to find older cars........
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I kinda figured it was agriculture related
Itís an up and down industry, really just the way it is. In any political plan, there will be winners and losers. Iím not the worlds biggest Trump fan, but I think his economic plans are good overall & there should end up being more winners than losers.
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I kinda figured it was agriculture related
He saved my industry.
Being a coal miner feels a lot like a buggy whip salesman a 100 years ago.
I am sure at some point we will all be out of work but we were done for sure under Hilary
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Trump has been pretty bad for the area I live in, which voted heavily republican in the election.
If you step and look at the big picture, I am sure you would admit that he is better than any Clinton would have been? Right?

The rice farmers I know in Louisiana, sure arent complaining that a Clinton isnt in office. But then again, they probably dont worry about Arkincide the way people do in Arkansas.
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Old 09-27-2018, 11:26 AM   #10
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YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwwww
MAGA!

It's so nice to wake up every morning to hear rabid democrats screaming and slobbering all over the place. If we could just harness their tears we could grow watermelons in the Mojave desert.
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If you step and look at the big picture, I am sure you would admit that he is better than any Clinton would have been? Right?

The rice farmers I know in Louisiana, sure arent complaining that a Clinton isnt in office. But then again, they probably dont worry about Arkincide the way people do in Arkansas.
Big picture, maybe. Thatís all speculation at this point because no one knows what might have happened, but I am glad that she didnít end up getting the job.

Iíve never heard of Arkancide, but have you talked to your Louisiana friends lately about input or commodity prices? There are a couple sorry old rice farms around here and rumor has it the guys working them arenít jumping for joy 😉
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He is sticking to his campaign promises and delivering on them even with all the interference from the Democrat Party. I see Trump dealing with the problems and not the symptoms. He is laying the foundation by addressing the fundamental problems in making the changes necessary so that even when he is out of office those changes will still remain in effect at least until a future president and administration comes along and changes them. In my opinion he is showing the Republicans how to take the Democrats head-on and fight back against their political correctness and their crooked ways.

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Old 09-27-2018, 01:36 PM   #13
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My 401k and other investments are way up! I do believe a vote for Trump was really a vote against Clinton
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Trump keeps winning. Our economy is on fire. He is putting America first. And keep in mind he is doing all of this in the midst of a constant bombardment of Libs/Dems trying to take his head off.

If you can't recognize all that has been accomplished thus far then you are a never-Trumper and won't be convinced otherwise.

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YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwwww
MAGA!

It's so nice to wake up every morning to hear rabid democrats screaming and slobbering all over the place. If we could just harness their tears we could grow watermelons in the Mojave desert.
no one could eat them,, they would be so bitter
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Tariffs are putting the screws to row crop farmers. Everyone understands that our trade situation needed fixing, but the sudden change shocked the market and it may never recover (beans, anyway). China can buy beans from SA & Brazil, Argentina etc. would love to take up the slack. Pretty dangerous/irresponsible gamble that really cost a lot of guys a lot of money.

That being said, itís a small percentage of the population and no one cares. The average person has no idea where their food comes from and does not care, so long as itís cheap.
Life ainít easy
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Trump keeps winning. Our economy is on fire. He is putting America first. And keep in mind he is doing all of this in the midst of a constant bombardment of Libs/Dems trying to take his head off.

If you can't recognize all that has been accomplished thus far then you are a never-Trumper and won't be convinced otherwise.

See you at the polls!
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Old 09-27-2018, 07:48 PM   #19
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Tariffs are putting the screws to row crop farmers. Everyone understands that our trade situation needed fixing, but the sudden change shocked the market and it may never recover (beans, anyway). China can buy beans from SA & Brazil, Argentina etc. would love to take up the slack. Pretty dangerous/irresponsible gamble that really cost a lot of guys a lot of money.



That being said, itís a small percentage of the population and no one cares. The average person has no idea where their food comes from and does not care, so long as itís cheap.


We do and buy local. None of the farmers here are complaining as they look at the long term. An industry can not survive forever on subsidies...
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We do and buy local. None of the farmers here are complaining as they look at the long term. An industry can not survive forever on subsidies...
Iím curious about what your local guys are producing, because the possibility of getting excluded from the largest market in the world (China) is definitely a long term problem. The only thing long term that I see happening in ag is more and more inequality among producers leading to bigger companies taking over everything. Thatís something I really thought that this admin would curtail. Should have known.

The subsidy thing is a pretty common ďtalking pointĒ that people like to drop. Most canít elaborate at all beyond that line. Yes, there are some programs that many farmers take advantage of, some more than others depending on area/conditions.

For example, I was working near Hearne several years ago in that little strip of ground near the river and met the guy who was farming it one day. It was hot and dry and his corn wasnít looking good. I asked him what he thought heíd get out of it and he said ďdoesnít matter, itís insured and I just need that thing to keep goingĒ- pointing at a pump jack. He drove off into the dust. Not to say that attitude doesnít exist in my area in isolated cases, but our ground is a lot better and people are trying to take their crop to market on fair terms and make a living.
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Old 09-27-2018, 08:32 PM   #21
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Go trump. Things are better now if he had any help at all just think how much greater America would be. He is tired like the rest of Americans of giving away working people's money to low life freeloaders Tired of American getting taken advantage of by other countries and is leveling the playing field. Build then wall and control immigration
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Forgive my ignorance about farming. Would it be possible to grow more fruits and vegetables domestically that are typically imported? Also, how does the CRP program work? I thought that the government paid farmers not to plant anything for a number of years? Seems to me that farmers could adjust what they are growing to what is in demand domestically. I know that is a super boiled down thought process and, admittedly, I know next to nothing about how it all works.
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Forgive my ignorance about farming. Would it be possible to grow more fruits and vegetables domestically that are typically imported? Also, how does the CRP program work? I thought that the government paid farmers not to plant anything for a number of years? Seems to me that farmers could adjust what they are growing to what is in demand domestically. I know that is a super boiled down thought process and, admittedly, I know next to nothing about how it all works.
Go to the USDA website, type in your county, next look at the farmers name and see the amount of $$$$$$$$$ they receive each year, never mind
Thatís why agriculture bills are tied in with the food stamp programs so they canít be separated 😠
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We need 6 more years!

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Go to the USDA website, type in your county, next look at the farmers name and see the amount of $$$$$$$$$ they receive each year, never mind
Thatís why agriculture bills are tied in with the food stamp programs so they canít be separated 😠

CRP program is welfare for land owners.
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Trump keeps winning. Our economy is on fire. He is putting America first. And keep in mind he is doing all of this in the midst of a constant bombardment of Libs/Dems trying to take his head off.

If you can't recognize all that has been accomplished thus far then you are a never-Trumper and won't be convinced otherwise.

See you at the polls!
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That is not what the CRP program is or is about. It's about giving farmers the financial incentive to not harm land that is marginally useful for crops. There are many benefits of the program for wildlife and the agricultural markets as well as insurance companies that provide crop insurance.

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National debt over 21 trillion. Not sure what a conservative is anymore.
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That is not what the CRP program is or is about. It's about giving farmers the financial incentive to not harm land that is marginally useful for crops. There are many benefits of the program for wildlife and the agricultural markets as well as insurance companies that provide crop insurance.

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No, no, no... itís welfare for farmers! I seen it on Fox!

Youíre exactly right. It laid a lot of marginal land out of cultivation that was getting insurance farmed (government backed insurance, for the talking point guys) every other year, anyway. The benefits to wildlife, the taxpayer, and the environment from the CRP program are immeasurable. People are just clueless.

Back to the original OP, I do think Trump has probably been better than the alternative. Weíll come back around here, sooner or later.
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National debt over 21 trillion. Not sure what a conservative is anymore.
Where would the debt be under President Sanders or President Clinton?

Congress, both parties, is more to blame because they have the power of the purse.

$21T is indeed a staggering number.
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...weekend-report

trump is fighting for American business. This time Farmers and Auto manufactures
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Where would the debt be under President Sanders or President Clinton?

Congress, both parties, is more to blame because they have the power of the purse.

$21T is indeed a staggering number.
This is one of the bad things about a President committed to making a deal. Trump got rid of earmarks. And now spending is exploding.
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My reaction.....

Loving every minute of it.....

I smile every time I see a liberal tear
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Better than I thought so far...still TBD
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Big picture, maybe. Thatís all speculation at this point because no one knows what might have happened, but I am glad that she didnít end up getting the job.

Iíve never heard of Arkancide, but have you talked to your Louisiana friends lately about input or commodity prices? There are a couple sorry old rice farms around here and rumor has it the guys working them arenít jumping for joy 😉
How about Nafta? Remind me again who signed it and who undid it? Sometimes when a door closes, a window opens up. Atleast that is the way the stock market seems to look at it.

Have you seen crawfish prices? Them rice farms just converted over to mud bug farms. But these guys work their own farms.
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Kinda like a quarterback, when it is good they get too much credit, when it's bad they get too much of the blame. Overall he has done much better than I expected, with about the amount of circus that I did expect.
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The tariffs have absolutely disrupted my business. I am heading over to China later this week to meet with my factories and discuss. A lot of the products no longer make sense to produce overseas and we are moving production back to the U.S. I have some coworkers who are furious over it because of the extra work they now have to do moving production around. Americans have become so lax over the past couple decades no wonder it was so easy to take advantage of us. Slight inconvenience to our day to day life and we cry like babies. Whatever happened to ask not what you country can do for you...but what you can do for your country? Anyone who's says China is feeling the heat is clueless.

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I did't vote for Trump. I voted "AGAINST" Hitlery... My ballot was cast in Trump's favor because of that. This time around, I WILL VOTE FOR TRUMP. I'll also vote for everyone I can that supports his agenda.
Can y'all imagine how much he could have accomplished if we'd had real Republicans filling those seats in the Congress?!
He's had a heck of a fight in his attempt of draining the swamp... His own party is so worried about protecting their control, they themselves cannot support his efforts. They well know that they will lose their strangle-hold on the purse strings they have right now.
The DemoKrauts, I am not surprised at how they have reacted, though even I did not know they'd stoop so low... And the media has lost ALL credibility to the point, it's hard to get the straight story any longer... Best way to know if something is "right" is to gauge how the left responds... If they're pizzin' and moaning, or doing bizarre and unbelievable things to keep something from happening, then that's something I'd support...

Our Nation is spiraling out of control of good and decent folks at a pace that seems too steep to pull out of the impending certain crash...
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First good step would be to take away his Twitter privileges.
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When trump started talking about running,, i thought it was a serious threat. i thought he was a political hack out to destroy the repubs. i have been very skeptical about him and have made many posts and even started threads saying so.

At this point all i can say is GO TRUMP! im on the TRUMP TRAIN. he says silly stuff and accts kinda childish....all the while making America GREAT AGAIN. Go Trump.
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I see this as two questions, one of Donald Trump and another of the Trump Administration.

Trump as a person is petty, ego driven, divisive and narcissistic. Trump, the man is a lying creep who has cheated his way through life.

The Trump Administration has been above average but not stellar. About average for an administration with control of both houses of congress. The administration has been successful in making the United States more competitive on the world stage and improved the current lives of a majority of Americans. Specifically with respect to regulations and corporate taxes. I do worry that the current improvements are at the expense of the future, particularly increasing the debt to GDP ratio.

The real story of the Trump administration will come in the next few years, particularly if the Republicans lose control of the house. Will the administration be able to shift gears and begin to reach across the floor and build consensus or will the administration divide the country further. This acceleration of the divide between left and right is what worries me the most about the future of the country.
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I see this as two questions, one of Donald Trump and another of the Trump Administration.

Trump as a person is petty, ego driven, divisive and narcissistic. Trump, the man is a lying creep who has cheated his way through life.

The Trump Administration has been above average but not stellar. About average for an administration with control of both houses of congress. The administration has been successful in making the United States more competitive on the world stage and improved the current lives of a majority of Americans. Specifically with respect to regulations and corporate taxes. I do worry that the current improvements are at the expense of the future, particularly increasing the debt to GDP ratio.

The real story of the Trump administration will come in the next few years, particularly if the Republicans lose control of the house. Will the administration be able to shift gears and begin to reach across the floor and build consensus or will the administration divide the country further. This acceleration of the divide between left and right is what worries me the most about the future of the country.
Consensus...you have got to be kidding. Really? Lmfao

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First good step would be to take away his Twitter privileges.
Totally disagree. Twitter allows him to speak directly to the people in his exact words and in real time. Can you imagine how twisted and distorted his messages would be if it were all funneled through a main stream news source before reaching us? How much would never reach us? He's not a polished politician. Its been 2 year now get over it.
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Totally disagree. Twitter allows him to speak directly to the people in his exact words and in real time. Can you imagine how twisted and distorted his messages would be if it were all funneled through a main stream news source before reaching us? How much would never reach us? He's not a polished politician. Its been 2 year now get over it.
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I see this as two questions, one of Donald Trump and another of the Trump Administration.

Trump as a person is petty, ego driven, divisive and narcissistic. Trump, the man is a lying creep who has cheated his way through life.

The Trump Administration has been above average but not stellar. About average for an administration with control of both houses of congress. The administration has been successful in making the United States more competitive on the world stage and improved the current lives of a majority of Americans. Specifically with respect to regulations and corporate taxes. I do worry that the current improvements are at the expense of the future, particularly increasing the debt to GDP ratio.

The real story of the Trump administration will come in the next few years, particularly if the Republicans lose control of the house. Will the administration be able to shift gears and begin to reach across the floor and build consensus or will the administration divide the country further. This acceleration of the divide between left and right is what worries me the most about the future of the country.
The last thing I want from any Republican to reach across the isle to work with the Democrats. This is not 1980 and these Democrats have no ideas worthy of any Republican compromise. If the Democrats want to compromise they need to cross the isle and give up something. Republicans have been giving things up for 30 years which led us to Obama and a giant crop of socialist.
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Working with these Dems means giving in to ALL their demands, with a smile of course!
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Totally disagree. Twitter allows him to speak directly to the people in his exact words and in real time. Can you imagine how twisted and distorted his messages would be if it were all funneled through a main stream news source before reaching us? How much would never reach us? He's not a polished politician. Its been 2 year now get over it.
No kidding. How would anyone even know the women who accused him were investigated and then were found to be paid liars?

You think it was on the news?
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First good step would be to take away his Twitter privileges.
Why? How is he truly talk to Americans who voted for him? CNN?
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