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We are wanting to add a covered outdoor kitchen area by our pool It will be detached from our house. I've talked my wife into letting me have a wood burning fire place, but want I want the fire box to be high enough and big enough to cook steaks on. Have any of y'all designed and built anything like this? Please post pictures.
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Good luck Matt. We are interested in something similar
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Real masonry fireplaces can be fickle and the number of masons that can design and build one correctly is dwindling.

Iíd be more inclined to have my cooking in another area rather than incorporated into a fireplace.

I have a large masonry fireplace on mine but would not consider cooking steaks in it, and itís built very well and drafts extremely well.


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Hit up Curtintex. He had something like that without the fireplace.


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Here is where I am so far...but no fireplace. I will put a smoker, Blackstone griddle, small fridge and a cabinet/bar top on this section
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You going to deck that with 2x lumber?
If not itís going to be pretty springy.
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Matt, I would reconsider having too big of a firebox. We have a large one, huge, at the ranch and it doesn't draw well at all. We had to put glass doors on the front in fact to make it draw, and it is an indoor unit. You can buy prefab wood burning boxes for outdoors and that may be the way to go, and get creative on your grill top to set in it. Also, you are going to heat up a ton of stone or brick if you cook in the summer time and it will be a warm experience. Why not a fireplace and egg over a few feet away for cooking?

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Old 04-09-2021, 07:15 PM   #9
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Need to take more recent pictures. Done quite a bit more and working on fireplace now
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You going to deck that with 2x lumber?
If not itís going to be pretty springy.
Yes. All 2 x 6 deck. We will add one more joist to that open end just to be sure we don't bounce. It will have a gabled, metal roof on plywood roof deck.

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Thanks, I've added TV, misting fan system accent lights. Very happy I was able to complete just before lumber sky rocketed. My advice is to have fun with yalls build, take the time to do it exactly how you want the first time
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I would not recommend doing a wood burner stick with a gas unit if you have to have an outdoor fireplace. Figure another means for cooking steaks etc...the drafting could be a big issue you donít want to deal with after all said and done.
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Look into Isokern fireplaces, we have one indoors and one outdoor on the porch, they are full size masonry with some prefabed component so the design is proven.

That said, with a good fire in one I wouldnít want to stand in front of it long enough to cook steaks
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I would not recommend doing a wood burner stick with a gas unit if you have to have an outdoor fireplace. Figure another means for cooking steaks etc...the drafting could be a big issue you donít want to deal with after all said and done.


No offense but Iím not a gas fireplace kind of guy. Wood burning only for me.


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None taken just trying to be helpful with experience. The Isokern bboswell mentioned above is a great fireplace but we have had drafting issues with these outdoors as wood burners and they arenít cheap. We have added fans to the chimney caps to try and help...more money spent and same result. Again it may work for your build or you are good with it knowing thereís a chance it may not draft like you expected just wanted to throw it out there. Post pics of the build Iím sure it will be killer.
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That looks great! Iím planning to do something similar at the coast, does it get smoky when you use your grill? I want to have a couple eggs in mine and am curious about smoke clearing, I really do not want to do a hood.
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We are wanting to add a covered outdoor kitchen area by our pool It will be detached from our house. I've talked my wife into letting me have a wood burning fire place, but want I want the fire box to be high enough and big enough to cook steaks on. Have any of y'all designed and built anything like this? Please post pictures.
My BIL had a grill set up built out of stainless for his outdoor fireplace at his old house. It looked really good and was built right but was not real practical to use, couldnít get to the back of grill w/out pulling it out etc. I think the problem you run into is if your firebox is tall enough to cook on then it wonít draft properly.
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Matt, I would reconsider having too big of a firebox. We have a large one, huge, at the ranch and it doesn't draw well at all. We had to put glass doors on the front in fact to make it draw, and it is an indoor unit. You can buy prefab wood burning boxes for outdoors and that may be the way to go, and get creative on your grill top to set in it. Also, you are going to heat up a ton of stone or brick if you cook in the summer time and it will be a warm experience. Why not a fireplace and egg over a few feet away for cooking?

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Look into Isokern fireplaces, we have one indoors and one outdoor on the porch, they are full size masonry with some prefabed component so the design is proven.

That said, with a good fire in one I wouldnít want to stand in front of it long enough to cook steaks


Was thinking about combining these 2, but might just have both.




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None taken just trying to be helpful with experience. The Isokern bboswell mentioned above is a great fireplace but we have had drafting issues with these outdoors as wood burners and they arenít cheap. We have added fans to the chimney caps to try and help...more money spent and same result. Again it may work for your build or you are good with it knowing thereís a chance it may not draft like you expected just wanted to throw it out there. Post pics of the build Iím sure it will be killer.


This was the one we had built at our old house. It drafted ok. The fire box was not big enough to keep you warm on a cold night.




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I donít see an issue with that set up drafting. When you incorporate that box in a structure it has to extend through the roof line and above as a wood burner. So depending on structure dimensions/heights thatís what I would recommend talking with fireplace company about.
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I donít see an issue with that set up drafting. When you incorporate that box in a structure it has to extend through the roof line and above as a wood burner. So depending on structure dimensions/heights thatís what I would recommend talking with fireplace company about.


None will draft perfect if itís windy. I donít mind some smoke since itís going to be outside. The key with any fire place or wood stove is having a big enough fire to keep the chimney hot. That is what makes it draft.


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None will draft perfect if itís windy. I donít mind some smoke since itís going to be outside. The key with any fire place or wood stove is having a big enough fire to keep the chimney hot. That is what makes it draft.


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Even without wind Iíve seen issues with a big fire rolling keeping the box hot. End of the day if you are aware of some smoke backdrafting and you are good with it...build it! I prefer that look over gas all day for outdoors personally.
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That looks great! Iím planning to do something similar at the coast, does it get smoky when you use your grill? I want to have a couple eggs in mine and am curious about smoke clearing, I really do not want to do a hood.
No Issues at all with smoke . The ceilings are high enough for it to dissipate, plus the fan on ceiling will help if it was needed. I literally fire up my smoker under it with no issues. I also set up 2 fans with a high pressure misting system via remote control which cools the area down about 20 degrees in the summer time. The back portion of the structure that I park under is 10 ft ceiling with an attic above for extra storage. The entertainment portion peaks at about 20 ft.
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No Issues at all with smoke . The ceilings are high enough for it to dissipate, plus the fan on ceiling will help if it was needed. I literally fire up my smoker under it with no issues. I also set up 2 fans with a high pressure misting system via remote control which cools the area down about 20 degrees in the summer time. The back portion of the structure that I park under is 10 ft ceiling with an attic above for extra storage. The entertainment portion peaks at about 20 ft.
Very nice, how high are your sides?
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Atta boy. I'll see if I have pics of what I built at our place in centerville. I also put in a high dollar gas grill that has a charcoal attachment and it's pretty awesome. Lights like a gas grill, eats like a charcoal grill.

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That can happen with the isokern and now I have better idea of what you mean about combining a grill.
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Ours on the porch will occasionally let out some smoke early in the fire if itís windy, once itís burning good we never have smoke
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This is really cool! What kind of countertop did you place in your kitchen. Really like the rough-edge finish.
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I poured concrete and then stained it 2 tone. Used a mold for the chipped edge look. Thanks
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That is the exact design that we used. We made some modifications to ours, but based it off your picture. I used the picture for our contractor and he made it happen.
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That is the exact design that we used. We made some modifications to ours, but based it off your picture. I used the picture for our contractor and he made it happen.


My brother sketched this last night.




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We are wanting to add a covered outdoor kitchen area by our pool It will be detached from our house. I've talked my wife into letting me have a wood burning fire place, but want I want the fire box to be high enough and big enough to cook steaks on. Have any of y'all designed and built anything like this? Please post pictures.


My customer wanted a way to incorporate the pit but not make it 100% permanent, we decided on a flat top to set the grill on just in case he ever wants to replace it!

Edit: didnít read your post properly, thought you were talking about adding a smoker!


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My customer wanted a way to incorporate the pit but not make it 100% permanent, we decided on a flat top to set the grill on just in case he ever wants to replace it!

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Wow, all of these are awesome!
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Does anyone have the specs for this picture? Specifically roof pitch. Looks 5-6 on 12???




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So we broke ground on the outdoor kitchen. Itís been one issue after the next with our GC and his contractors. Just wanted to get TBHers opinions.

First issue was with the slab. We get a message 3 weeks ago on a Saturday morning that they were pouring concrete at 10:00am. We were out of town, but figured no big deal. I turned a camera in that direction so I could watch. Well they run out of concrete about 2pm. 2 hours later they start mixing sackcrete. I about lost it. Called GC and left a message. He texted me back that it will be strong and he will warranty it. Sackcrete was poured on top of concrete that was over the rebar. Looks like terrible. We meet the GC the following week and he insured that it will not have cold joints and the spray deck will hide the seam. We asked for 5 year warranty since he is so confident. Think we settled on 3 years.




Later that week his framing crew shows up. I think they forgot their tape measure, square and level at home.

Bow in the ridge and decking not square.



Decking doesnít over lap the rafter.




Split cedar where it bearing the load of the roof.


Hole in the decking.



Rafter is cracked off in soffit area.



Rafters not flush to the ridge beam. Causing the uneven ridge line.


Missing rafters at the back of the structure.



The soffit boards are not cut the same length. Hard to see in the picture but they Facia is bowed out in the center.


GC hasnít been here to inspect this pour excuse for framing. Said he was too busy with meetings this past week but can be here next Tuesday. Iím livid. Would yíall be?


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So we broke ground on the outdoor kitchen. Itís been one issue after the next with our GC and his contractors. Just wanted to get TBHers opinions.

First issue was with the slab. We get a message 3 weeks ago on a Saturday morning that they were pouring concrete at 10:00am. We were out of town, but figured no big deal. I turned a camera in that direction so I could watch. Well they run out of concrete about 2pm. 2 hours later they start mixing sackcrete. I about lost it. Called GC and left a message. He texted me back that it will be strong and he will warranty it. Sackcrete was poured on top of concrete that was over the rebar. Looks like terrible. We meet the GC the following week and he insured that it will not have cold joints and the spray deck will hide the seam. We asked for 5 year warranty since he is so confident. Think we settled on 3 years.




Later that week his framing crew shows up. I think they forgot their tape measure, square and level at home.

Bow in the ridge and decking not square.



Decking doesnít over lap the rafter.




Split cedar where it bearing the load of the roof.


Hole in the decking.



Rafter is cracked off in soffit area.



Rafters not flush to the ridge beam. Causing the uneven ridge line.


Missing rafters at the back of the structure.



The soffit boards are not cut the same length. Hard to see in the picture but they Facia is bowed out in the center.


GC hasnít been here to inspect this pour excuse for framing. Said he was too busy with meetings this past week but can be here next Tuesday. Iím livid. Would yíall be?


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Man !
I hate crappy contractors. Too many suck azz people out there selling jobs.
If you didnít grow up with an erector set and Lincoln logs, then you shouldnít be allowed to build anything later in life.
Sorry you got ahold of a no good contractor. Hope he can fix things for you.
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So we broke ground on the outdoor kitchen. Itís been one issue after the next with our GC and his contractors. Just wanted to get TBHers opinions.

First issue was with the slab. We get a message 3 weeks ago on a Saturday morning that they were pouring concrete at 10:00am. We were out of town, but figured no big deal. I turned a camera in that direction so I could watch. Well they run out of concrete about 2pm. 2 hours later they start mixing sackcrete. I about lost it. Called GC and left a message. He texted me back that it will be strong and he will warranty it. Sackcrete was poured on top of concrete that was over the rebar. Looks like terrible. We meet the GC the following week and he insured that it will not have cold joints and the spray deck will hide the seam. We asked for 5 year warranty since he is so confident. Think we settled on 3 years.




Later that week his framing crew shows up. I think they forgot their tape measure, square and level at home.

Bow in the ridge and decking not square.



Decking doesnít over lap the rafter.




Split cedar where it bearing the load of the roof.


Hole in the decking.



Rafter is cracked off in soffit area.



Rafters not flush to the ridge beam. Causing the uneven ridge line.


Missing rafters at the back of the structure.



The soffit boards are not cut the same length. Hard to see in the picture but they Facia is bowed out in the center.


GC hasnít been here to inspect this pour excuse for framing. Said he was too busy with meetings this past week but can be here next Tuesday. Iím livid. Would yíall be?


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Iíd be upset as well. My BIL had one bull last year by a contractor and had same issues. Your GC does not happen to be a full time firefighter who does this on the side does he?
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