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Old 07-27-2021, 09:26 PM   #101
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Sorry but if there is a judge involved, I'm out. Gymnastics, iceskating and beauty pageants are not sports or competitions to me. When opinions are involved, and the winner is determined by that, it's subjective. I'm not saying that the participants are not super athletic and are not great to watch, but it's just not worthy of the Olympics, IMO.
I agree, if there's not objective scoring, addition of runs, goals, in essence points and a defense... its not a sport... period
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Old 07-27-2021, 09:41 PM   #102
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It just a sad and weird situation. Didn’t she just a week ago have the goat emblem bedazzled on her leotards? I feel sorry for her, she definitely needs help.
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Old 07-27-2021, 09:47 PM   #103
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"mental health" has been made a crutch by the vast majority of this country. Everyone wants to be in the spotlight until someone turns it on.
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:01 PM   #104
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Just a different perspective from my wife who was a 6A all-state gymnast…when Simone came off that vault you could see it in her face that she was lost in the air, couldn’t find her landing and could have seriously injured herself. Gymnastics can be a much more mental sport than many may think, especially when you can literally paralyze or kill yourself if you freak out in the middle of a skill. Would it be better for her to continue knowing she wasn’t in a good place to compete and score well or step back and give her teammates the best chance to win? It’s not like she went back to the locker room and pouted, she was on the sideline cheering on her teammates and supporting them. It may have taken more courage to withdraw from the event she has been training for full time literally her entire life than try to “power through” and injure herself and tank the team score. I guarantee most of y’all would be posting how selfish and mentally weak she was if she had continued with her routines and scored poorly costing her team a medal.


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Old 07-27-2021, 10:04 PM   #105
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Not a little girl. A Grown *** woman. Men AND women need to learn to pick up their cross and walk up that hill. When you have people relying on you, you don’t get to quit.
Life is hard. Never use illness as an excuse not to do something you *could* do.
Hope she can work through whatever is troubling her and get her act back together.
I couldn’t have said it better myself.

The world of competitive gymnastics is tough, both physically AND mentally. Those who are too weak to handle the competition are usually weeded out long before they reach international levels of competition. But whether they are eliminated through the echelons or not, if they can’t handle the pressure, they have no business being there.

In spite of this, Miss Biles’s decision to withdraw herself from the competition was a strategic one, rather than an impulsive one brought on by emotional distress. When it became clear she could not contribute the number of individual points to the team total needed to beat the Russian team—the high number of points for which she is historically known—she needed to step aside. With the competition between the U.S. and Russia so tight, it became imperative to give the next highest qualifying alternate an opportunity to make up the point deficits.

Frankly, it is disappointing that a mature young woman of 24, one who has trained her whole life for this level of competition, allowed herself to succumb to emotional distractions. Nevertheless, removing herself from the competition was the strategic and honorable thing to do in this instance.

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Old 07-27-2021, 10:05 PM   #106
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She is one of the best ever female gymnast. Every competitor comes to a point of diminishing returns. Her's might be right now. Weither it is mental or physical it happens.

I was told a long long time ago by a wise old coach. The mental is to physical as 3 is to 1.

I was also told. It's a choice to have a bad mental day. Its not a choice to have a bad physical day.

True great ones should never quit unless physically unable to perform.
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I was also told. It's a choice to have a bad mental day. Its not a choice to have a bad physical day.
And what they told you is a bunch of bullsh#t, ever hear of chemical imbalance, its called mental illness for a reason its not a choice.
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:12 PM   #108
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Just a different perspective from my wife who was a 6A all-state gymnast…when Simone came off that vault you could see it in her face that she was lost in the air, couldn’t find her landing and could have seriously injured herself. Gymnastics can be a much more mental sport than many may think, especially when you can literally paralyze or kill yourself if you freak out in the middle of a skill. Would it be better for her to continue knowing she wasn’t in a good place to compete and score well or step back and give her teammates the best chance to win? It’s not like she went back to the locker room and pouted, she was on the sideline cheering on her teammates and supporting them. It may have taken more courage to withdraw from the event she has been training for full time literally her entire life than try to “power through” and injure herself and tank the team score. I guarantee most of y’all would be posting how selfish and mentally weak she was if she had continued with her routines and scored poorly costing her team a medal.
Watched an olympian contending for metal in skeet shooting who has competed in the olympics for the past 28 years fall apart coming down the home stretch the other day...the mental aspect shouldn't be overlooked.
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:15 PM   #109
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Watched an olympian contending for metal in skeet shooting who has competed in the olympics for the past 28 years fall apart coming down the home stretch the other day...the mental aspect shouldn't be overlooked.
I still think there is a difference, mentally falling apart and failing, ok. The quitting is what really gets me.
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:18 PM   #110
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And what they told you is a bunch of bullsh#t, ever hear of chemical imbalance, its called mental illness for a reason its not a choice.
Sorry it wasn't! It was great advice.
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The quitting is the pivot point & reason for the conversation...the question is why.
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:24 PM   #112
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The quitting is the pivot point & reason for the conversation...the question is why.

She explained it if you watched her interview, she wanted to give her team the best chance to win.


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Old 07-27-2021, 10:27 PM   #113
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She explained it if you watched her interview, she wanted to give her team the best chance to win.


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She was that person, the poor girl that filled in for her scored an 11, and that was the nail in coffin for gold.
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:30 PM   #114
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She explained it if you watched her interview, she wanted to give her team the best chance to win.


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The teams best chance to win was for her to go out there and get it done. Instead of fighting through the pressure she just up and quit and put someone else in the hot seat. I think it was a business decision. I’ve failed at a lot of things, but I’ve never quit.
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:34 PM   #115
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And what they told you is a bunch of bullsh#t, ever hear of chemical imbalance, its called mental illness for a reason its not a choice.
Mental illness may not be a choice, but you still have choices over yourself and your life.
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And what they told you is a bunch of bullsh#t, ever hear of chemical imbalance, its called mental illness for a reason its not a choice.
Emotional weakness is not the same thing as a mental illness due to a chemical imbalance. And while you might not have choice about how you feel, you do have a choice about how you behave.

Life is tough, but you’ve still got to run the race.
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:42 PM   #117
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Anybody else see the Women’s volleyball team from Turkey beat the crap out of China, it was awesome!!!! China has dominated for a long time but got thrashed!!!
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Old 07-27-2021, 11:11 PM   #118
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Typical tbh. A bunch of fat old farts criticizing somebody for something they don't understand.
Or to put it another way…

A bunch of wizened old people who have weathered life’s challenges with character and good cheer; who, through sheer and dogged determination, have consistently triumphed over adversity (or when they didn’t, never blamed others for the misfortune); who never hesitate to put the needs of others before their own; and who hold others to the same high standards to which they hold themselves every single day.

Fat old farts who don’t understand? No. Simply everyday heroes whose unitards “shrunk in the wash.”
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Old 07-27-2021, 11:19 PM   #119
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I feel bad for her but hate the message it sends to those who look up to her. This country wasn’t built by people who checked it in when things got rough, may fall because of them though. Resiliency is grossly undervalued today.
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Old 07-28-2021, 01:07 AM   #120
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I sure hope some of y'all never fall off of those tall horse's.
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:46 AM   #122
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Or to put it another way…

A bunch of wizened old people who have weathered life’s challenges with character and good cheer; who, through sheer and dogged determination, have consistently triumphed over adversity (or when they didn’t, never blamed others for the misfortune); who never hesitate to put the needs of others before their own; and who hold others to the same high standards to which they hold themselves every single day.

Fat old farts who don’t understand? No. Simply everyday heroes whose unitards “shrunk in the wash.”
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Old 07-28-2021, 06:02 AM   #123
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Sorry but if there is a judge involved, I'm out. Gymnastics, iceskating and beauty pageants are not sports or competitions to me. When opinions are involved, and the winner is determined by that, it's subjective. I'm not saying that the participants are not super athletic and are not great to watch, but it's just not worthy of the Olympics, IMO.
I agree. Look at the Miss Nevada pageant. Transgender won. You mean to tell me a male is the best looking female had to offer? Or was it strictly politically driven?
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Old 07-28-2021, 06:20 AM   #124
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That’s a wrap for her career.

Withdrawn from the all around, I'm sure she'll withdraw from the individual events.


They take the top 3 scores, she didn't want to go out and look bad, IMHO. Mental health? What kind of situation do you think the LEADER of the squad, the VETERAN, put her teammates in when she withdrew herself from competition after a ****ty vault. Come on man...

She chose to put that GOAT on her unitard.
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Old 07-28-2021, 06:35 AM   #125
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A bunch of wizened old people who have weathered life’s challenges with character and good cheer; who, through sheer and dogged determination, have consistently triumphed over adversity (or when they didn’t, never blamed others for the misfortune); who never hesitate to put the needs of others before their own; and who hold others to the same high standards to which they hold themselves every single day.

Fat old farts who don’t understand? No. Simply everyday heroes whose unitards “shrunk in the wash.”
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Or to put it another way…

A bunch of wizened old people who have weathered life’s challenges with character and good cheer; who, through sheer and dogged determination, have consistently triumphed over adversity (or when they didn’t, never blamed others for the misfortune); who never hesitate to put the needs of others before their own; and who hold others to the same high standards to which they hold themselves every single day.

Fat old farts who don’t understand? No. Simply everyday heroes whose unitards “shrunk in the wash.”
Some of your posts are said in the best way. You have a WAY better handle on explaining stuff than most….kudos!
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:09 AM   #127
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Fact: She quit in the middle of competition. She should never be allowed to represent America again.

Reason: She is a quitter.

Fact: I am a tad over weight, not fat, lol
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:11 AM   #128
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I see both sides of this issue. If she did withdraw simply because the pressure of her fame and stature was too much too handle, poor little cup cake..... But if she had something happen to her that traumitized her in some way and it's just now showing up or coming out, you gotta feel for her. Either way we don't have the whole story so I'm keeping my stone in my pocket, for now!
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:13 AM   #129
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I don't understand this entire generation that think it's ok to simply quit when something gets more difficult. You can look back at the US Nationals or US Olympic qualifying and see her heart wasn't into it. If she tapped out a month ago it's 1/10th the story. To quit on your team in the middle of competition sends an amazingly poor message to every person that looked up to her.

I wonder how her coaches/trainers didn't see her struggling and have a direct conversation with her.

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If the mental issues were so bad why did she do all the interviews after she quit? She’s not a role model nor the goat!
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If she wanted to step aside, the time to do so was BEFORE the competition started. Not during. The bell rang, and she didn't answer. It's that simple......no excuse is gonna change that fact.

No matter what's going on in her head, she owed it to the team to push thru, and give it her best, because that's what real competitor's do; much less a self proclaimed GOAT.
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From a Hero to a Zero in 24hrs! But pretty sure she doesn't care what a bunch of hunters think about her. On to the next victim!
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Nope....but I can imagine Jabron Lames doing so.
LMAO. Or a cramp.
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I wonder how her coaches/trainers didn't see her struggling and have a direct conversation with her.
You mean the same ones that turned a blind eye to all the rape and molestation?
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:54 AM   #135
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I can have compassion and sympathy for a young lady struggling mentally and at the same time have a lack of respect for someone that quits mid event on their team.
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You mean the same ones that turned a blind eye to all the rape and molestation?

You think those are still coaching her?
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I sure hope some of y'all never fall off of those tall horse's.
No kidding...
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Old 07-28-2021, 08:03 AM   #138
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I sure hope some of y'all never fall off of those tall horse's.
When you do, you pick yourself up and get back on!
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Old 07-28-2021, 08:05 AM   #139
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I've never put much thought into gymnastics, or any sport for that matter. She made a big girl decision and has to live with it and I'm not going to trash her for it. Why should I even care what another adult decides to do if its not effecting me?

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I can have compassion and empathy for a young lady struggling mentally and at the same time have a lack of respect for someone that quits mid event on their team.
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You think those are still coaching her?
I hope not. Just giving a relevant real world example of how doing the right thing can be overlooked by people in those positions in the name of winning.
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Old 07-28-2021, 08:08 AM   #142
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Pretty sure it's Russian colusion,and needs to b investigated by nancy and her kangaroo court immediately!
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I really hope she is ok as she could very well have some mentality stability issues with everything that is going on. We don't know what is going on in her life or what she is facing or has faced. I'm going to give her a pass until I've read or seen more.
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I can have compassion and empathy for a young lady struggling mentally and at the same time have a lack of respect for someone that quits mid event on their team.
Yes i have compassion for her and her situation, but to say she is a hero or the goat is a joke. She is a quitter, and yes i feel bad for her.
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At least she didn't kneel down.
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The trauma could be due to systemic racism. I hear there’s a lot of that going around lately.
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Old 07-28-2021, 08:21 AM   #147
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Dale speaking the truth!
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M16- BINGO!!!!!!!! hahahaha.
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She should just come home.
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