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Old 07-07-2021, 10:33 PM   #1
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Whats the proper situation here. This guy across the street has a camcorder that he placed on the corner of his house that he faces at different houses randomly everyday. Last week it was faced at my neighbors, this week he has it facing mine.

I believe he is schizophrenic, as we've seen him have episodes over the past few years in the middle of the street. His family moved out and left him there.

We'll I saw him outside the other day and kindly asked him to stop recording or facing that camera towards our house, as I have little girls and a wife that are home by themselves somedays while Im at work. He threw a fit saying that its not illegal (which Im aware of) and that he isnt a convicted felon. He then asked me to step into his property if I want to see what he is recording. He then went into his house and brought out a gun. He left it at his gate as he approached me in the middle of the street and threatened to "mess me up" and that he is going to catch me one day. He may have ahad a pistol on his waist which is why I decided to walk into my property and wait for him to trespass before I called the cops. I never have talked to this guy in the 10 years of living here. This was the first occurrence since I feel nearly violated. Had he had the camera maybe facing his driveway or something, then it wouldn't be an issue. But Ive seen him move his camera during the day to face other houses, so he is doing something purposely.

I'm assuming nothing can be done until he breaks the law; not sure if him brandishing his weapon and threatening to hurt me is illegal, but looking for anything legal I can bring to this guy to at least get him to at least remove that camera.

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Old 07-07-2021, 10:37 PM   #2
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Sounds like he lost his marbles! He probably doesn’t even have the camera on and he’s looking for a fight!
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Old 07-07-2021, 10:40 PM   #3
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I think contacting the non- emergency Dispatch number would be your best bet and ask to speak with an officer. He could clear any questions you have & at-least start a record / paper trail in case things get more western.


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Old 07-07-2021, 10:43 PM   #4
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Once the gun comes out, time to head inside and come up with a different strategy.
If heís half nuts he ainít too far from using it.

Thereís a self defense video of a bad neighbor run in ending in a double shooting not too long ago.
Iíll go dig it up....

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Old 07-07-2021, 10:49 PM   #5
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Get a camera and face it towards his house. Then document everything. Call the cops every time he disturbs your peace.


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Old 07-07-2021, 10:49 PM   #6
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Legally not sure of anything. Iíd definitely get a paper trail going with local officials. But the main thing that pop out at me was you told the guy that your wife & kid is at home by themselves while your at work sometimes. I would definitely keep a close eye on the guy. Not judging anyone but apparently something is wrong with him & you never know when heíll snap. 1st things 1st protect your family!!


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Old 07-07-2021, 11:07 PM   #7
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This is where I would start. Then I'd walk around the yard in my underwear every time I saw the camera pointed my way (my legs and chest shine like the vampires on twilight). Then I'd find some annoying crap to do on camera after that.
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Old 07-07-2021, 11:15 PM   #8
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There is absolutely nothing you can do about the camera. What is the concern? He could just sit and watch from his porch, or his house and obtain similar information even without the camera. I would be more concerned with his mental health. Report anything out of the ordinary and I think following Nannyslayers advice above would be a great first step.
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Old 07-07-2021, 11:19 PM   #9
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Next time he has an episode call the police. If they have any reason to think he's mentally impaired he will end up with an EMS ride to see a Doctor. The Doc may be able to get the guy some help or get him out of your hair for a while.
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Old 07-08-2021, 05:49 AM   #10
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I don’t think I’d be outside my house with out a gun on me from this point forward.
Maybe he is mentally ill ( hmmm red flag ) regardless. Now that you have stirred him up you better be prepared
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Old 07-08-2021, 05:55 AM   #11
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This is one of those situations where you could/should call and report him as "mentally unfit" to own a gun!!! How long ago did his family move out? In the meantime, I would point a camera right back at him.... No telling what he's going to do! That's a scary situation, especially with kids involved...
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:01 AM   #12
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Just a security camera covering your property from a different angle. I don't let crap like that worry me. I don't care what my neighbors do as long as it's on their property.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:03 AM   #13
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I wouldn’t have any contact with him it sounds like that is just what he is wanting to happen. Some people just look for trouble. You don’t want to end up on
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:04 AM   #14
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I’d leave him alone and mind my own business. He never bothered you in 10 years until you complained to him.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:07 AM   #15
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Do your part to get the man some help. Our son developed some sort of non genetic psychosis after his brain surgery. It’s heartbreaking and thankfully he’s not violent. He’s the sweetest kindest man I’ve ever met. But , I digress. Keep an eye on him, call and see if you can get social services or someone to come out and do a welfare check on him. Lastly for everyone, try to out yourself in this mans position. He’s alone, afraid, possibly angry, hearing voices cursing at him all his waking moments etc etc. it’s a living nightmare folks. And yes, be careful and protect your family. And start praying for the man! That shoulda been first on my list.
Wow! Just read AC’s post. Didn’t know you complained to him.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:08 AM   #16
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This is one of those situations where you could/should call and report him as "mentally unfit" to own a gun!!! How long ago did his family move out? In the meantime, I would point a camera right back at him.... No telling what he's going to do! That's a scary situation, especially with kids involved...

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Old 07-08-2021, 06:09 AM   #17
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The guy is neither a friend or neighbor...
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:19 AM   #18
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Several lessons here.

1. Never, ever tell someone (especially a person with mental issues) that your wife, daughter, kids, etc... are home alone or when they are alone. You have never talked to this neighbor in 10 years, you know his family left him and yet you trust him with knowledge of your absence?

2. If you suspect someone is crazy, never come onto their property and give them cause.

3. "You catch more bees with sugar" Be nice to begin with rather than accusatory.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:22 AM   #19
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Once the gun comes out, time to head inside and come up with a different strategy.
If heís half nuts he ainít too far from using it.

Thereís a self defense video of a bad neighbor run in ending in a double shooting not too long ago.
Iíll go dig it up....

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Dang, that was hard to watch. I think especially in today's climate, people have become "slung off".
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:26 AM   #20
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Several lessons here.

1. Never, ever tell someone (especially a person with mental issues) that your wife, daughter, kids, etc... are home alone or when they are alone. You have never talked to this neighbor in 10 years, you know his family left him and yet you trust him with knowledge of your absence?

2. If you suspect someone is crazy, never come onto their property and give them cause.

3. "You catch more bees with sugar" Be nice to begin with rather than accusatory.
Sound advice!!
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:30 AM   #21
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example of what not to do for feels
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:32 AM   #22
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Once the gun comes out, time to head inside and come up with a different strategy.

If heís half nuts he ainít too far from using it.



Thereís a self defense video of a bad neighbor run in ending in a double shooting not too long ago.

Iíll go dig it up....



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I can't believe that guy shot his friend and neighbor....... That was tough to watch, dang!
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:40 AM   #23
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I am pretty sure OP didn't run across street and tell this guy he knows is unstable that his family is often home alone.

Instead of "kindly asked him to stop recording or facing that camera towards our house, as I have little girls and a wife that are home by themselves somedays while Im at work." I think he probably intended something more like "Since my wife and girls are home alone while I am at work, I kindly asked him to stop..."
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:44 AM   #24
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Call the police.
He brought out a gun and threatened you.
Mental health issues and guns are not a good combination.
Good luck.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:48 AM   #25
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Several lessons here.

1. Never, ever tell someone (especially a person with mental issues) that your wife, daughter, kids, etc... are home alone or when they are alone. You have never talked to this neighbor in 10 years, you know his family left him and yet you trust him with knowledge of your absence?

2. If you suspect someone is crazy, never come onto their property and give them cause.

3. "You catch more bees with sugar" Be nice to begin with rather than accusatory.
He told this to a neighbor of at least 10yrs with a camera facing his house. Donít think he provided any information that wasnít obvious. Probably did more harm by posting it on web tho.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:51 AM   #26
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I would get me a laser pointer / gun sight and aim it directly into that camera lens and lock it down. Maybe it would damage something inside the camera to make it useless. At a minimum it would blind the camera when it is facing your direction

Since you have already kicked the hornet nest so to speak, you better be ready to do what is required if he twists off
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:53 AM   #27
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Call the police.
Ignore/Avoid him
Move

I'll be honest, I'd consider the third option if I felt my and my family's safety was at imminent risk.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:54 AM   #28
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Once the gun comes out, time to head inside and come up with a different strategy.
If heís half nuts he ainít too far from using it.

Thereís a self defense video of a bad neighbor run in ending in a double shooting not too long ago.
Iíll go dig it up....

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Geez that was pretty rough, they were clearly aholes but I still almost teared up. Freaking psycho
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:55 AM   #29
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What's done is done as far as the encounter you had with him goes. Don't beat yourself up on that front.

Now, what you can do from this point on as others have suggested is get a camera of your own to document what he is up to.

Let your wife and daughters know when they see this guy outside to go inside.

Call law enforcement and make a record of what you are dealing with.

Next time you see him, wave nicely. If he says anything to you be polite and let him know you were having a bad day and realized you may have come at him sideways but meant no disrespect. (Do this from your property not his)

Mental health is no joke. If this guy is on the edge the last thing you want to do is be an excuse and put your family in his cross hairs.

I have a weird neighbor who lives about a mile down the road and he walks by my house on occasion. He made the mistake one day of talking to my kids who were playing outside. Long story short I am building a fence. At first I was gonna go knock on his door but my dad talked me down off that ledge. 25 years in law enforcement and his advice is donít step on his property and give him an excuse.

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Old 07-08-2021, 07:27 AM   #30
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Iíd leave him alone and mind my own business. He never bothered you in 10 years until you complained to him.
Please do not interject common sense into this thread. What in the hell is wrong with you AC ?














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Old 07-08-2021, 07:29 AM   #31
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How long ago did the rest of the family leave?
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Old 07-08-2021, 07:34 AM   #32
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In this day and age cameras are probably pointed in everybody’s yard. Have you checked all your neighbors houses? You might have a bunch more aimed at you.
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Old 07-08-2021, 07:49 AM   #33
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What's done is done as far as the encounter you had with him goes. Don't beat yourself up on that front.

Now, what you can do from this point on as others have suggested is get a camera of your own to document what he is up to.

Let your wife and daughters know when they see this guy outside to go inside.

Call law enforcement and make a record of what you are dealing with.

Next time you see him, wave nicely. If he says anything to you be polite and let him know you were having a bad day and realized you may have come at him sideways but meant no disrespect. (Do this from your property not his)

Mental health is no joke. If this guy is on the edge the last thing you want to do is be an excuse and put your family in his cross hairs.

I have a weird neighbor who lives about a mile down the road and he walks by my house on occasion. He made the mistake one day of talking to my kids who were playing outside. Long story short I am building a fence. At first I was gonna go knock on his door but my dad talked me down off that ledge. 25 years in law enforcement and his advice is donít step on his property and give him an excuse.

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This but not sure i'd wave at him or tell him another thing from this point out.
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Old 07-08-2021, 07:54 AM   #34
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Whats the proper situation here. This guy across the street has a camcorder that he placed on the corner of his house that he faces at different houses randomly everyday. Last week it was faced at my neighbors, this week he has it facing mine.

I believe he is schizophrenic, as we've seen him have episodes over the past few years in the middle of the street. His family moved out and left him there.

We'll I saw him outside the other day and kindly asked him to stop recording or facing that camera towards our house, as I have little girls and a wife that are home by themselves somedays while Im at work. He threw a fit saying that its not illegal (which Im aware of) and that he isnt a convicted felon. He then asked me to step into his property if I want to see what he is recording. He then went into his house and brought out a gun. He left it at his gate as he approached me in the middle of the street and threatened to "mess me up" and that he is going to catch me one day. He may have ahad a pistol on his waist which is why I decided to walk into my property and wait for him to trespass before I called the cops. I never have talked to this guy in the 10 years of living here. This was the first occurrence since I feel nearly violated. Had he had the camera maybe facing his driveway or something, then it wouldn't be an issue. But Ive seen him move his camera during the day to face other houses, so he is doing something purposely.

I'm assuming nothing can be done until he breaks the law; not sure if him brandishing his weapon and threatening to hurt me is illegal, but looking for anything legal I can bring to this guy to at least get him to at least remove that camera.

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I would talk to the police, so they know about him. I would not waist any time trying to find something minor on the guy to turn him in to the police. I say minor, meaning anything that would have the police at his house, or arrest him where he goes to jail for a couple of days. Anything along those lines is going to really get him fired up and escalate things to a much more dangerous level.

He definitely sounds like he has some serious mental issues, that need to be dealt with. Most likely there is nothing that can be done, until he does something extreme, like kill someone or try to kill someone. He can claim he is only protecting himself and his property, and he has the right to do so.

Recording his actions, without him knowing, then documenting anything that you find to be potentially wrong doing on his part, to show the police. But make it clear to them, you just want them to be aware of him and ask for any advice on what would be required to get your neighbor checked into a mental hospital. Then work on that, if possible. That's probably not possible, but every time the police show up at his house, after you call them, is going to greatly escalate the situation. There is a decent chance he will do something extreme, if the police show up at his place repeatedly.

you nor the police can be at your house 24/7 to protect your family, crazy people pick the most unlikely times to do crazy stuff. Keep that in mind, before you go making yourself and your family his primary target.
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Old 07-08-2021, 07:59 AM   #35
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My cameras catch my neighbors houses and houses across the street. The fact he is using a camcorder that unless he has a lot of spare time recharging, deleting tapes/disk/memory...i bet its not even recording.

My neighbor was crazy and i just made sure i was cautious when my kids where outside and always polite to him, even when he made no sense. He actually was really accepting of us and bothered the other neighbors. He eventually burnt the house down and left a couple months ago. No drama was ever had.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:00 AM   #36
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Several lessons here.

1. Never, ever tell someone (especially a person with mental issues) that your wife, daughter, kids, etc... are home alone or when they are alone. You have never talked to this neighbor in 10 years, you know his family left him and yet you trust him with knowledge of your absence?

2. If you suspect someone is crazy, never come onto their property and give them cause.

3. "You catch more bees with sugar" Be nice to begin with rather than accusatory.
I have to agree with this statement.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:02 AM   #37
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Start a youtube channel. Go out and mess we with him every day on film. You could be rich. It has happened.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:09 AM   #38
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Legally not sure of anything. Iíd definitely get a paper trail going with local officials. But the main thing that pop out at me was you told the guy that your wife & kid is at home by themselves while your at work sometimes. I would definitely keep a close eye on the guy. Not judging anyone but apparently something is wrong with him & you never know when heíll snap. 1st things 1st protect your family!!


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never disclose such info..even tho he probably has discovered that already.

And, the fact he brought up that he wasn't "a convicted felon" brings to mind that he may have had a close encounter with the law but got away with it.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:12 AM   #39
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Start a youtube channel. Go out and mess we with him every day on film. You could be rich. It has happened.
Lol. This^

Or, mind your own buisness. Sounds like you started a unnecessary situation and now have drama in your life
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:15 AM   #40
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this is why i live where i cant see my neighbors...
time to move
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:18 AM   #41
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Do you live in a HOA neighborhood? My next door neighbor sounds like he may be related to your neighbor. I have been facing the same issues (minus the gun) for several years and I finally got the HOA involved. They sent him a letter demanding he not point his cameras on anyone else's property.

On a side note, if you want to get him wound up I have found a few things that really get the job done. If you have a friend with a drone, have them park a couple of blocks away and send it up when he's outside. You really want to hoover the drone about 5-10 feet above this neighbors head. A good 5mins seems to do the trick. Next, do a bit of people watching and see what bothers this person most. In my case, this particular neighbor does not like noise. Since my garage faces his house I have installed a very nice stereo in my garage. Once he starts his issues with me, my family, or the neighborhood kids I politely turn on Motley Crue or Pantera to a level I can comfortably hear inside my house. This most always causes him to return into his house. Lastly, you want to keep some chairs, cold Dr. Pepper, waters, or gatorade in you garage. When the police come by invite them to visit and help themselves to a cold drink, before you know half the block will be over. The children really enjoy when the officers play basketball with them and let them tour the police cars. Don't forget to ask them to turn on the lights and sirens!
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:20 AM   #42
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Call the police.
He brought out a gun and threatened you.
Mental health issues and guns are not a good combination.
Good luck.
When he introduced a gun into the situation he crossed a line. Not illegal to have/display on your own property, but that was a threat.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:22 AM   #43
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I’d start messing with the back of his house. Leave small enigmatic electronic devices, cryptic messages, move things. Make him shift the focus of his ops in the other direction.


While that would be fun, I’d leave him alone. Tell my family to steer clear.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:24 AM   #44
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Do you live in a HOA neighborhood? My next door neighbor sounds like he may be related to your neighbor. I have been facing the same issues (minus the gun) for several years and I finally got the HOA involved. They sent him a letter demanding he not point his cameras on anyone else's property.

On a side note, if you want to get him wound up I have found a few things that really get the job done. If you have a friend with a drone, have them park a couple of blocks away and send it up when he's outside. You really want to hoover the drone about 5-10 feet above this neighbors head. A good 5mins seems to do the trick. Next, do a bit of people watching and see what bothers this person most. In my case, this particular neighbor does not like noise. Since my garage faces his house I have installed a very nice stereo in my garage. Once he starts his issues with me, my family, or the neighborhood kids I politely turn on Motley Crue or Pantera to a level I can comfortably hear inside my house. This most always causes him to return into his house. Lastly, you want to keep some chairs, cold Dr. Pepper, waters, or gatorade in you garage. When the police come by invite them to visit and help themselves to a cold drink, before you know half the block will be over. The children really enjoy when the officers play basketball with them and let them tour the police cars. Don't forget to ask them to turn on the lights and sirens!
My man, I like your style (minus the HOAÖ Iíll never subject myself to those power hungry rat bassturds)
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:26 AM   #45
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Once the gun comes out, time to head inside and come up with a different strategy.
If heís half nuts he ainít too far from using it.

Thereís a self defense video of a bad neighbor run in ending in a double shooting not too long ago.
Iíll go dig it up....

Active Self Defense video- Graphic warning -
https://youtu.be/Id9pd8zfQcs
Holly S**t that video was crazy.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:27 AM   #46
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I'd take the lens of his camera out with a pellet gun. If he still points it at your house. You know he's nut's. Wait till dark 30
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:27 AM   #47
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Wait until he's asleep and go over and spray paint the camera lens.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:28 AM   #48
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Holly S**t that video was crazy.
Wild wasn't it!!
He definitely reached his breaking point .
Never expected him to come back out a 2nd time, let alone with a rifle.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:33 AM   #49
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Whats the proper situation here. This guy across the street has a camcorder that he placed on the corner of his house that he faces at different houses randomly everyday. Last week it was faced at my neighbors, this week he has it facing mine.

I believe he is schizophrenic, as we've seen him have episodes over the past few years in the middle of the street. His family moved out and left him there.

We'll I saw him outside the other day and kindly asked him to stop recording or facing that camera towards our house, as I have little girls and a wife that are home by themselves somedays while Im at work. He threw a fit saying that its not illegal (which Im aware of) and that he isnt a convicted felon. He then asked me to step into his property if I want to see what he is recording. He then went into his house and brought out a gun. He left it at his gate as he approached me in the middle of the street and threatened to "mess me up" and that he is going to catch me one day. He may have ahad a pistol on his waist which is why I decided to walk into my property and wait for him to trespass before I called the cops. I never have talked to this guy in the 10 years of living here. This was the first occurrence since I feel nearly violated. Had he had the camera maybe facing his driveway or something, then it wouldn't be an issue. But Ive seen him move his camera during the day to face other houses, so he is doing something purposely.

I'm assuming nothing can be done until he breaks the law; not sure if him brandishing his weapon and threatening to hurt me is illegal, but looking for anything legal I can bring to this guy to at least get him to at least remove that camera.

Any thoughts?
What he did, threatening you, yes it is very illegal. Brandishing a weapon as he did, combined with a threat is serious stuff.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:34 AM   #50
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Sorry you have to go through this, be careful guy sounds like he's losing it.
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