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J.B. · 03-12-2019, 10:22 AM

Is there anyway to verify if someone has served?

muzzlebrake · 03-12-2019, 10:24 AM

Ask them for their DD214

JBT · 03-12-2019, 10:24 AM

not sure on how to verify but can we get some of the juicy details to your story please

MQ32Shooter · 03-12-2019, 10:26 AM

All I got is Discharge papers. Is that a DD214? Was way back in about 1975, so I forgot.

DRT · 03-12-2019, 10:28 AM

In the 80s we got a DD214. Had to present it to employers.

Gary

TxSon1836 · 03-12-2019, 10:43 AM

something happen that makes you think someone is stealing valor?

breederbuck33 · 03-12-2019, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TxSon1836

something happen that makes you think someone is stealing valor?

Yes I want to hear the back story.

Johnny44 · 03-12-2019, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by J.B.

Is there anyway to verify if someone has served?

Hey man, just because some one served don’t mean they can’t steal valor.

I was waiting on a bone scan at the VA in San Antonio when some yahoo that was in for 36 months was telling me he was a SEAL, Recon Marine, Delta, and SF. I called him a liar and the fight ensued and ended very quickly. I told my ole lady on the phone what happened after the VA cops settled things and I said “I’m not saying I deserve better, but I earned better because I’m retired”. So now I go on base or to private Doctors off base.

If you are driven to question such, it probably ain’t someone you wanna be around anyway.

az2tx · 03-12-2019, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MQ32Shooter

All I got is Discharge papers. Is that a DD214? Was way back in about 1975, so I forgot.

mine was 77 haven't seen in years

MQ32Shooter · 03-12-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by az2tx

mine was 77 haven't seen in years

My wife found mine the other day cleaning out a file cabinet.

My Father’s Son · 03-12-2019, 11:08 AM

Ask to see their DD214. It’s basically a summary of their service. Ask them what their MOS and unit was also.

Johnny44 · 03-12-2019, 11:08 AM

If he tells you strange stories about strange places and has an unusually high number of humanitarian medals and presidential unit citations then he is the “real deal”.

Charles · 03-12-2019, 11:13 AM

Ask detailed questions. If he answers, "that's classified" he's full of ****.

If he's claiming be to a Navy Seal sick Don Shipley on him. If you don't know Don Shipley here's a link to his youtube content https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=don+shipley

Chew · 03-12-2019, 11:27 AM

There were less than 300 Navy Seals that served in Vietnam. I've met all 5000 of them.

Radar · 03-12-2019, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chew

There were less than 300 Navy Seals that served in Vietnam. I've met all 5000 of them.

. True dat

Kdurham · 03-12-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by My Father’s Son

Ask to see their DD214. It’s basically a summary of their service. Ask them what their MOS and unit was also.

Anyone can find MOS and unit online. Can’t deny a DD214 as full proof.

AntlerCollector · 03-12-2019, 11:33 AM

If he can't produce his DD214, then look up Don Shipley on the www. He can help ya

Johnny44 · 03-12-2019, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chew

There were less than 300 Navy Seals that served in Vietnam. I've met all 5000 of them.

Too funny and sad

Anvilheadtexas · 03-12-2019, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

If he can't produce his DD214, then look up Don Shipley on the www. He can help ya

I dig a good Don Shipley stolen valour call out on YouTube. Some of these clowns are quite humorous.

Johnny44 · 03-12-2019, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kdurham

Anyone can find MOS and unit online. Can’t deny a DD214 as full proof.

Yes you can, folk will make their own, certified copy stamp and all.

Kdurham · 03-12-2019, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny44

Yes you can, folk will make their own.

Yeah good point. Didn’t Shipley bust someone with a fake one?

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Johnny44 · 03-12-2019, 11:43 AM

I don’t know but some folk go to great lengths.

Blank · 03-12-2019, 11:43 AM

The DD-214 is proof positive that you served, and has all the basics of time, rank, rate, schools attended and type of discharge. It definitely does not have all the specifics of in-country experiences, and deployments. If you have yours, it is always a good idea to go down to your local county clerks office, and have it recorded. Cost is minimal and then it is always available if you need an official copy issued again. Another thing that is available now for Veterans benefits, and discounts on goods and services throughout the country is a Veterans ID card. It verifies actual service, discharge, and comes in hard plastic with your current picture on it.

Black_foot_ · 03-12-2019, 11:45 AM

Every time I see stolen valor I immediately think of this copypasta.

What the **** did you just ******* say about me, you little ****? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ******* words. You think you can get away with saying that **** to me over the Internet? Think again, ******. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're ******* dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable *** off the face of the continent, you little ****. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you god**** idiot. I will **** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're ******* dead, kiddo.

RangerRick2012 · 03-12-2019, 11:48 AM

Did I miss the back story?

whitecrow · 03-12-2019, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_foot_

Every time I see stolen valor I immediately think of this copypasta.

....gorilla warfare.......

Stopped reading right there.......

txbowkill · 03-12-2019, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by whitecrow

Stopped reading right there.......

What did the Gorillas do to you?

Tx_Wader · 03-12-2019, 01:22 PM

I thought you were supposed to file a copy of your DD214 at the county courthouse in the county where you live?

White Falcon · 03-12-2019, 01:25 PM

Easiest way is to ask them their service number. If they don't know it then my guess they DIDN'T serve.

billythefish · 03-12-2019, 01:48 PM

In my opinion bloaters are worse than guys who pretend to have served. A bloater is someone who did indeed serve in the military, yet knows just enough information to bull**** and lie about what tours they did, where they served, with what unit etc.

I've encountered quite a large amount of marines and army guys here who do that ****. Usually involves a female...always funny hearing them backtrack "oh well well I didn't actually go out on patrol in that location" lol

Ætheling · 03-12-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by White Falcon

Easiest way is to ask them their service number. If they don't know it then my guess they DIDN'T serve.

They havent issued those in almost 30 years. Its just been your Social Security number since then.

OP are you prior service?

Bluesman · 03-12-2019, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chew

There were less than 300 Navy Seals that served in Vietnam. I've met all 5000 of them.

I'll account for one. I was helping him move some furniture in 1982. We pulled a couch away from a wall and I noticed a picture frame laying on the floor, it was a Seal Certificate of Training.
I asked him about it and he simply said, "I was wondering where that was."
He preferred not to discuss his service in Vietnam. "I save that for the VA Hospital." I respected that, and always will.

sailor · 03-12-2019, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by White Falcon

Easiest way is to ask them their service number. If they don't know it then my guess they DIDN'T serve.

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muzzlebrake · 03-12-2019, 02:29 PM

There's 2 things I'll never forget. One is my Army Serial # and the other is my first piece of ???
Carry on!

txwhitetail · 03-12-2019, 02:51 PM

Seems like I meet more cooks that say they were seals than I do folks that didnt serve at all.

billythefish · 03-12-2019, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sailor

B176675-----
Please, don't send Mr.Shipley after me....

I hope, I didn't steal anybody's valor.....
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I never met anyone pretending to be a sailor so you should be fine

Kdurham · 03-12-2019, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by billythefish

I never met anyone pretending to be a sailor so you should be fine

Jack tripper was a cook in the Navy.

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sailor · 03-12-2019, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by White Falcon

Easiest way is to ask them their service number. If they don't know it then my guess they DIDN'T serve.

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Originally Posted by billythefish

I never met anyone pretending to be a sailor so you should be fine

Says, the guy named "fish"...…...

CWendling · 03-12-2019, 03:02 PM

I did 2 floats, granted one was only for a month, on LST-1191, the Racine. Fun times on those flat bottomed suckers

Charles · 03-12-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sailor

B176675-----
Please, don't send Mr.Shipley after me....

I hope, I didn't steal anybody's valor.....
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Thank you for your service!

You aren't by chance kin to Pocahontas are you?

Kdurham · 03-12-2019, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sailor

B176675-----

Please, don't send Mr.Shipley after me....

I hope, I didn't steal anybody's valor.....

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Were you on it during Beirut?

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billythefish · 03-12-2019, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sailor

Says, the guy named "fish"...…...

and so it begins lol.

Hunteraudit · 03-12-2019, 03:43 PM

Ask him his MSU number. If he gives you a number then you’ll know he likes to Make Stuff Up. If he says “what’s that?” then you can continue your investigation.

TacticalCowboy · 03-12-2019, 03:45 PM

Can someone fill me in on the reasons somebody would “steal valor”? Is it just for attention, or trying to get the 10% discount at the donut shop, or what?

I see this stuff all the time on the book of faces and such, but don’t understand the purpose.

Hunteraudit · 03-12-2019, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalCowboy

Can someone fill me in on the reasons somebody would “steal valor”? Is it just for attention, or trying to get the 10% discount at the donut shop, or what?

I see this stuff all the time on the book of faces and such, but don’t understand the purpose.

Lack of a moral compass coupled with a selfish desire for notarity or financial gain.

TacticalCowboy · 03-12-2019, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunteraudit

Lack of a moral compass coupled with a selfish desire for notarity or financial gain.

Seems like a lot of effort for that discount at the donut shop haha

Kdurham · 03-12-2019, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalCowboy

Seems like a lot of effort for that discount at the donut shop haha

Yeah 10% isn’t much. Now the 50% off at Popeyes makes sense. Lol

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TacticalCowboy · 03-12-2019, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdurham

Yeah 10% isn’t much. Now the 50% off at Popeyes makes sense. Lol

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In that case, I’m gonna go get me some BDU’s

PlanoDano · 03-12-2019, 04:00 PM

1. For those who believe no one claims to be a sailor. All Seals are sailors.

2. It has been more than 40 years since service numbers were used.

3. I respect those who served as cooks, it is an important , difficult and underrated job.

4. Not all branches use MOS

bowhunter_2 · 03-12-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ætheling

They havent issued those in almost 30 years. Its just been your Social Security number since then.

OP are you prior service?

They definitely do still issue a service number.

03-12-2019, 10:22 AM	#1
J.B. Ten Point Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: DFW Hunt In: Texas	Stolen Valor? Is there anyway to verify if someone has served?

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03-12-2019, 10:24 AM	#2
muzzlebrake Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Euless, Texas Hunt In: Sterling County	Ask them for their DD214

03-12-2019, 10:24 AM	#3
JBT Eight Point Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Flower Mound Hunt In: Montague, Grayson	not sure on how to verify but can we get some of the juicy details to your story please

03-12-2019, 10:26 AM	#4
MQ32Shooter Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Garland, Texas Hunt In: Cisco, Texas	All I got is Discharge papers. Is that a DD214? Was way back in about 1975, so I forgot.

03-12-2019, 10:28 AM	#5
DRT Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Hunt In: Jones County and Missouri	In the 80s we got a DD214. Had to present it to employers. Gary

03-12-2019, 10:43 AM	#6
TxSon1836 Ten Point Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: McKinney Hunt In: Oklahoma- Public	something happen that makes you think someone is stealing valor?

03-12-2019, 11:08 AM	#11
My Father’s Son Nubbin' Buck Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Houston	Ask to see their DD214. It’s basically a summary of their service. Ask them what their MOS and unit was also.

03-12-2019, 11:08 AM	#12
Johnny44 Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Texas	If he tells you strange stories about strange places and has an unusually high number of humanitarian medals and presidential unit citations then he is the “real deal”.

03-12-2019, 11:13 AM	#13
Charles Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006	Ask detailed questions. If he answers, "that's classified" he's full of ****. If he's claiming be to a Navy Seal sick Don Shipley on him. If you don't know Don Shipley here's a link to his youtube content https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=don+shipley

03-12-2019, 11:27 AM	#14
Chew Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kingwood, TX Hunt In: Leon County	There were less than 300 Navy Seals that served in Vietnam. I've met all 5000 of them.

03-12-2019, 11:33 AM	#17
AntlerCollector Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2014 Hunt In: Votaw, Hardin/Polk Co., TX. Bon Weir, Newton Co., El Dorado, Schleicher Co., TX.	If he can't produce his DD214, then look up Don Shipley on the www. He can help ya

03-12-2019, 11:43 AM	#22
Johnny44 Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Texas	I don’t know but some folk go to great lengths.

03-12-2019, 11:43 AM	#23
Blank Eight Point Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Idaho Falls Idaho Hunt In: Entire Mountain West, South Texas	The DD-214 is proof positive that you served, and has all the basics of time, rank, rate, schools attended and type of discharge. It definitely does not have all the specifics of in-country experiences, and deployments. If you have yours, it is always a good idea to go down to your local county clerks office, and have it recorded. Cost is minimal and then it is always available if you need an official copy issued again. Another thing that is available now for Veterans benefits, and discounts on goods and services throughout the country is a Veterans ID card. It verifies actual service, discharge, and comes in hard plastic with your current picture on it.

03-12-2019, 11:45 AM	#24
Black_foot_ Six Point Join Date: May 2015 Location: League City	Every time I see stolen valor I immediately think of this copypasta. What the ** did you just *** say about me, you little ? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my *** words. You think you can get away with saying that to me over the Internet? Think again, **. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're *** dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable * off the face of the continent, you little **. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your *** tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you god idiot. I will fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're ***** dead, kiddo.

03-12-2019, 11:48 AM	#25
RangerRick2012 Ten Point Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: The Woodlands, TX Hunt In: United States and its territories	Did I miss the back story?

03-12-2019, 01:22 PM	#28
Tx_Wader Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: El Campo Hunt In: Jackson County and Utopia	I thought you were supposed to file a copy of your DD214 at the county courthouse in the county where you live?

03-12-2019, 01:25 PM	#29
White Falcon Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Holly Lake Ranch Hunt In: East Tx. and Anywhere I can!	Easiest way is to ask them their service number. If they don't know it then my guess they DIDN'T serve.

03-12-2019, 01:48 PM	#30
billythefish Four Point Join Date: Feb 2019	In my opinion bloaters are worse than guys who pretend to have served. A bloater is someone who did indeed serve in the military, yet knows just enough information to bull** and lie about what tours they did, where they served, with what unit etc. I've encountered quite a large amount of marines and army guys here who do that **. Usually involves a female...always funny hearing them backtrack "oh well well I didn't actually go out on patrol in that location" lol

03-12-2019, 02:29 PM	#34
muzzlebrake Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Euless, Texas Hunt In: Sterling County	There's 2 things I'll never forget. One is my Army Serial # and the other is my first piece of ??? Carry on!

03-12-2019, 02:51 PM	#35
txwhitetail Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Angelo Hunt In: Irion Co	Seems like I meet more cooks that say they were seals than I do folks that didnt serve at all.

03-12-2019, 03:02 PM	#39
CWendling Eight Point Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Nevada,tx Hunt In: Coleman County	I did 2 floats, granted one was only for a month, on LST-1191, the Racine. Fun times on those flat bottomed suckers

03-12-2019, 03:43 PM	#43
Hunteraudit Eight Point Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: San Antonio Hunt In: Texas	Ask him his MSU number. If he gives you a number then you’ll know he likes to Make Stuff Up. If he says “what’s that?” then you can continue your investigation.

03-12-2019, 03:45 PM	#44
TacticalCowboy Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Vernon Hunt In: Southern Taylor County, Tom Green County	Can someone fill me in on the reasons somebody would “steal valor”? Is it just for attention, or trying to get the 10% discount at the donut shop, or what? I see this stuff all the time on the book of faces and such, but don’t understand the purpose.

03-12-2019, 04:00 PM	#49
PlanoDano Six Point Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Plano Hunt In: TX, ID, CO	1. For those who believe no one claims to be a sailor. All Seals are sailors. 2. It has been more than 40 years since service numbers were used. 3. I respect those who served as cooks, it is an important , difficult and underrated job. 4. Not all branches use MOS