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Old 06-18-2013, 03:53 PM   #51
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ok let me rephrase, most of them


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Old 06-18-2013, 04:03 PM   #52
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I really don't want just a good old duck dog. I have hunted with enough of them.






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I guess if you want a field trial dog for a hunting companion and house dog then that has some relevance.




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Just going by what he stated.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:07 PM   #53
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Just going by what he stated.

He's getting a dog from his sister's backyard breeding....so I'm just going by what he stated
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:12 PM   #54
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:13 PM   #55
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Smart, from what I've researched, the dam has some pretty good blood. I've seen superior blood dogs come up lame and some "backyard breeding" dogs do very well. I'll probably never run trials with this dog, but if I wanted to, I hope to succeed.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:15 PM   #56
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Smart, from what I've researched, the dam has some pretty good blood. I've seen superior blood dogs come up lame and some "backyard breeding" dogs do very well. I'll probably never run trials with this dog, but if I wanted to, I hope to succeed.

Of course...there are always exceptions...
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:30 PM   #57
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He's getting a dog from his sister's backyard breeding....so I'm just going by what he stated
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:35 AM   #58
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When it comes down to it Sac get what you feel is going to fit in your "house" the best. There are sacrifices on both sides if this one. I personally think males hunt harder but prefer a female dog around the house. I have trained several GSPs in the past and some of the females hunted better than the males did. Over all with hunting with you last year I think you'd be very happy with a stronger willed female dog that will hunt harder.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:57 AM   #59
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Reading through the posts and I have a few comments to add. I have had 2 female labs. I didn't pick either one, both of them picked me. One was from a breeder that I paid an arm and leg for and she had a pedigree a mile long. Great dog, great drive, easy to train and sad to say only had a short time with her. The second (and current) is a rescue. She is the best dog I have ever had. Picked up training guickly, (I am NOT a pro) and has found more downed dove that I would have lost than I could imagine. She has been fixed and has lost no drive to work or play and I would not trade her for the world. My choice is a female and play with all of them and let the right one pick you. Good luck.
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:48 AM   #60
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I got more pictures from Montana. I'm waiting to see which female pup my son picks for me. He'll ship it air cargo on United Airlines on July 14 to us.

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Old 06-20-2013, 11:51 AM   #61
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The second (and current) is a rescue. She is the best dog I have ever had. Picked up training guickly,
Yes indeed. My first golden was uh humm...a rescue and a mix with some collie in her. She looked like a golden.....tracked a downed duck to the horizon, and even in a few instances, even up to the reed that it would cling to underwater. She actually would wind the reed and dive underwater to retrieve the bird. Came up with the bird and muck..one of the most thrilling things to see. She swam so hard to the point of exhaustion if you weren't careful. Actually blew off academics to a degree in my senior year of undergrad to train her. Bloodlines can give you an indication of what you are or may have, but the heart of the trainer and dog defines your success.
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:17 PM   #62
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My male duke is the best dog I have ever had. He has listened from day one and is a natural at hunting. I really didn't have to train him much just commands and other stuff
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:30 PM   #63
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A dog only behaves as well as it is controlled. Some dogs have drive, some dogs don't, not matter what pedigree they come out of. There are great male and female dogs. It all boils down to to luck of the draw.
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:48 PM   #64
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I have both a male and a female lab and the comments stating that females are less hard headed made me physically laugh out loud. My female lab is the most hard headed dog I have ever owned ( my husky was easier to train and those dogs have I mind of their own). I think the hard headedness is just based on the dog versus the gender. Heck, I can look at my male lab lower my voice and just crumples and tries to appologize for not healing all night long..
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A dog only behaves as well as it is controlled. Some dogs have drive, some dogs don't, not matter what pedigree they come out of. There are great male and female dogs.

These two posts are the two mosts valid posts in the entire thread. Dogs are a lot like people in that we all have our own distinct personalities.
The gender of the dog has nothing to do with drive, intelligence, desire, trainability, performance, athletic ability, etc. Both males and females can be hard headed, lazy, sweet, passionate, trainable, mean, angry, talented, social, etc.
The only thing that sex determines is how they ****(urinate), whether they're on two feet or four for the breeding process, and whether or not they're responsible for the pups for the first 7 weeks of their life or not.
Anyone who believes other wise is un-educated on the topic.

To the OP, get what fits your family best. Gender truly doesn't matter.

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Old 06-20-2013, 01:52 PM   #65
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Yes indeed. My first golden was uh humm...a rescue and a mix with some collie in her. She looked like a golden.....tracked a downed duck to the horizon, and even in a few instances, even up to the reed that it would cling to underwater. She actually would wind the reed and dive underwater to retrieve the bird. Came up with the bird and muck..one of the most thrilling things to see. She swam so hard to the point of exhaustion if you weren't careful. Actually blew off academics to a degree in my senior year of undergrad to train her. Bloodlines can give you an indication of what you are or may have, but the heart of the trainer and dog defines your success.
Bloodlines can give you an indication of what you are or may have, but the heart of the trainer and dog defines your success.

This is so true!^^^^^^^^^^
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:14 PM   #66
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I've seen more female duck dogs wander away in the tulies where we are set up, to where a male dog's ducks are laying and 'steal' one and bring it back than the opposite happening. Those female labs were just duck-crazy.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:21 PM   #67
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Chocolate male, easiest trained and best mannered dog I've ever had.

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Old 06-21-2013, 05:38 PM   #68
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Keeping on believing that.....You are wrong..

My lab was 67-70 lbs until she turned 10 and was retired due to a leg injury..
x2. my bella is all chest and shoulder. great working dog. ive never had good luck with males.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:46 AM   #69
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Chocolate male, easiest trained and best mannered dog I've ever had.]
That's one, serious, I'm-on-the-job look from your dog.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:31 AM   #70
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female for sure
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:12 PM   #71
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Our son picked our female today. Biggest female, dark and she went crazy for a mallard wing from his freezer- she fell asleep on top of it.

Father-daughter picture. Name is still in spirited discussion.

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Old 06-22-2013, 11:36 PM   #72
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I'll take a black female every time.
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:45 AM   #73
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Because my sisters lab didn't have gsp's.
Duh!

I got both. A lab and gsp mix. Not the brightest but she was just a pet for my wife and not for hunting. She is a cute goofball. My female black lab/heeler has been a great bird dog. I went with females for the simple reason of don't want a dog hiking its leg and pissing on everything.

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Old 07-01-2013, 11:16 PM   #74
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Picked up a lab hound mix from Operation Kindness in Carrollton two weeks ago. Gracie is 12 weeks old fox red and a sweetheart so far. Ordered the training set from Antler Ridge. Will be training her to hunt sheds.
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Old 07-04-2013, 05:07 PM   #75
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Brother and sister to be split up next week, she comes to SJ on July 14 on a United flight.



Here's a funny lab picture I found.

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Old 07-04-2013, 05:42 PM   #76
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I have two black labs. One male, one female. I love the male and have a great bond with him. He is 6 and still quite a handful. Not very easy to train. The female is soooooo much easier to train. It's like she knows exactly what I'm saying. In the training aspect of it I choose female.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:14 PM   #77
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Depends on your training style. Are you rough? Or are you softer handed in your training?

Its been my experience that females are much more likely to cow down to you if you are heavy handed. Most of my experience has been with training cattle dogs, with a few gun dogs in the mix, but I can tell you, the males I've had you could dang near murder and they'd still love you without cowing.

With that being said, I prefer Males.
^^^My experience as well with labs...I prefer males.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:57 PM   #78
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Well, we picked up Sage at the airport yesterday after her flight from Montana. She did OK last night away from brother and Dad for the first time- she only yelped in her kennel in the family room for 45 minutes before going to sleep.

What's the recommendation on any toys at this age? I hear it's bad for them to chew because they get a 'hard' mouth, but does that mean none?

I needed a picture with a spec decoy while she was smaller than it.



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Old 07-15-2013, 10:54 PM   #79
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I've trained a lot of hounds and huntin' dogs and would say....I'd take training a female over a male......HOWEVER, my most recent duck dog was a yellow Lab.....and danged if that wasn't hardest headed animal I ever seen.....o.b. trained her male litter mate in a few weeks....not so with her....had ever bad habit a dog could have.....and upon picking a pup she was the most energetic of the bunch....to her credit she had good hunting instincts and worked better afield than in training....strangest thing I ever seen........took forever to train.....the laziest male in the litter would be my choice.....
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Well, we picked up Sage at the airport yesterday after her flight from Montana. She did OK last night away from brother and Dad for the first time- she only yelped in her kennel in the family room for 45 minutes before going to sleep.

What's the recommendation on any toys at this age? I hear it's bad for them to chew because they get a 'hard' mouth, but does that mean none?

I needed a picture with a spec decoy while she was smaller than it.



Excellent choice on the name...
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:17 AM   #81
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without a doubt FEMALE dogs are easier to trane and are better behaved.
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:30 AM   #82
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If you want cheap laughs, put a mirror on the ground with the pup. This was from behind a door so it's not glass for safety. She walks by trying to figure out who her 'new' friend is!

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