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Old 05-16-2019, 01:18 AM   #1
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Default Building blind base, engineering help needed

I just bought 2 hay rings to use for blinds or blind bases.

I have several ideas about how to go about it.

Heres where I need the help. I want to build a platform on top of it & than set a pop up blind on top of that. What size 2X do I need and on what center?

The rings are 91 across.
I plan on laying the 2X on there edge, using 3/4 marine plywood for flooring than covering that in stall mats for noise reduction.
My expected load is 1,000lbs. 3 adults, their gear and a pop up.
I was thinking 2x6 on 24 centers

I am thinking I want to keep the platform square so I can put eye bolts in the corners to tie the blind too.

I am thinking I might build it in 2 sections, bolted together in the middle for ease of assembly.
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:40 AM   #2
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2x6 will span 9 foot, safely.
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:57 AM   #3
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I'd sell those and buy some elevators off of Ebay. Build it out of wood.
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:06 AM   #4
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Hope they are heavy duty hay rings........
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:11 AM   #5
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Hope they are heavy duty hay rings........
Do you think they'll not support the weight?
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:09 AM   #6
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My issue with a pop up on a stand, is what stops you from going to the ground if you trip inside the pop up? If I put up anything with elevation more than a couple of feet, I want a hard side to keep my clumsy self from being hurt too bad. I had an experience with a 10' stand being completely full of wasps, didn't realize it until my arm seemed on fire. My BIL was yelling to jump, but my brain was working good enough to reason a broken bone was worse than the wasp stings. I climbed out, wiped the remaining wasps off and stuck my arm in the ice chest. Then hoped I didn't have an allergic reaction, we were 30 mins from town. Everything worked out, we put the stand on a trailer, wasps an all. They were gone after we took them on a 4 hr. trailer ride. I had 36 wasp stings on my right arm. 20 scattered around my head and upper body.


Sorry for the drift, but I have looked at a pop up on a stand, and it wont be very tall when I do one.

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Old 05-16-2019, 10:16 AM   #7
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Do you think they'll not support the weight?
yes - that would be a concern for me, but there are so many different makes and types of hay rings and I'm sure some could work.
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:02 PM   #8
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I'd sell those and buy some elevators off of Ebay. Build it out of wood.

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Don't use wood. Use metal!






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Old 05-16-2019, 06:28 PM   #10
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I dont see this Picture in this thread.....
Anyone know why?
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Old 05-17-2019, 05:19 PM   #11
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Well poopy.
Sold them today to a guy I know.
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Old 05-17-2019, 06:32 PM   #12
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Hey man no offense but i am once again lost in this thread.

You asked about hay rings then showed a picture of a camera and then said you sold them to a guy you know.




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Old 05-17-2019, 06:46 PM   #13
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Hey man no offense but i am once again lost in this thread.

You asked about hay rings then showed a picture of a camera and then said you sold them to a guy you know.




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No offense taken.

The picture shows up on the screen when I'm looking at Around The Campfire forum. That's where I got the screenshot.
Yet when I click on this thread I don't see that picture.
My intent with the picture was to inquire if anyone else was seeing in the thread. I was wo seeing if my phone or Tapatalk was acting up.

The hay rings.
I bought them with the intent of turning them into blinds as stated in post #1.
In post #11 I stated that I sold them.
The intent behind that was to bring closure to the thread for those that might be following along to see how they turned out.

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Old 05-17-2019, 09:12 PM   #14
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Awesome thread
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No offense taken.

The picture shows up on the screen when I'm looking at Around The Campfire forum. That's where I got the screenshot.
Yet when I click on this thread I don't see that picture.
My intent with the picture was to inquire if anyone else was seeing in the thread. I was wo seeing if my phone or Tapatalk was acting up.

The hay rings.
I bought them with the intent of turning them into blinds as stated in post #1.
In post #11 I stated that I sold them.
The intent behind that was to bring closure to the thread for those that might be following along to see how they turned out.


Would be easier to understand if you take pics of your sidewalk chalk drawings and post them

We could most likely find a way to interpret
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Would be easier to understand if you take pics of your sidewalk chalk drawings and post them

We could most likely find a way to interpret
This thread is no different than any other PB2 thread
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:43 AM   #17
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Would be easier to understand if you take pics of your sidewalk chalk drawings and post them

We could most likely find a way to interpret
You just lack imagination and the ability to think
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Old 05-18-2019, 01:18 PM   #18
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Hey man no offense but i am once again lost in this thread.

You asked about hay rings then showed a picture of a camera and then said you sold them to a guy you know.




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Im slightly confused too. Oh well, guess PB2 has moved on from whatever he was thinking when he started this thread.

Edit....read post #13 and Im all straightened out now. Although PB2 seemed disappointed that he sold the rings like he all of the sudden remembered what he was going to use them for after they were sold.


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Old 05-18-2019, 01:35 PM   #19
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Well poopy.
Sold them today to a guy I know.

All you needed to say was, Since you guys convinced me this was a bad idea, I changed my mind about using the hay rings and sold them .

That way we would have understood.
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Im slightly confused too. Oh well, guess PB2 has moved on from whatever he was thinking when he started this thread.

Edit....read post #13 and Im all straightened out now. Although PB2 seemed disappointed that he sold the rings like he all of the sudden remembered what he was going to use them for after they were sold.


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He hadn't heard that " pop " up till that point.
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Old 05-18-2019, 02:20 PM   #21
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It was and is a great idea.

Wrap it in camo burlap lay it flat on the ground sit inside it. Has a built in shooting rail with 360 coverage.
It being the hay rings.

I was a touch disappointed to sell them but a friend had a need for them where as I had a want for them. I hope you can understand the difference between my use of the words need and want.
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Old 05-18-2019, 02:48 PM   #22
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Just incase someone really wants to make a blind of hay rings, it is quite simple.
Using 3 hay rings on their sides and stacked in a pyramid. Then wrap them with straw mats.
Build your platform by putting a 20' 6X6 post three feet in the ground outside the front and rear outer edges of the upper ring, a total of 4.
Using 2X8 boards, connect the top of the posts making approximately a 6X8 platform base.
Attach at least 1 cross brace one each side and 2 on the front and rear.
Then put 2X6 or 2X8 floor joists between 16 & 24" apart. NOTE... these can be run front to back or side to side.
Deck the platform with 3/4" marine grade plywood.
Attach eyelets for support cable run to the outer edges of the lower rings.
Add your ladder.
Now you can put a pop up or build a permanent blind.


note that the platform is above the rings. The rings now look like bales(actual bales can be used) and are for concealment and not as structural support.
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