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Old 05-15-2019, 08:14 PM   #1
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Read that there is a bill on the Governor's desk to allow Hog killing without a license.
Would start September 1.

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Old 05-15-2019, 08:32 PM   #2
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AUSTIN, TX (KLTV) - A bill loosening up freedom in Texansí battle against the feral hog population is one step away from becoming law following the Texas House of Representativesí approval Tuesday.

Senate Bill 317, authored by state Senator Bryan Hughes of Mineola, allows the hunting of feral hogs without a hunting license.

Hughes said in a February interview that the current law could be interpreted to mean one would have to prove hogs are doing damage before you have the right to kill them. SB 317 clarifies feral hogs can be killed without a license whether or not damage is being caused.

The bill will now be sent to the governorís desk to be signed into law.



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Old 05-15-2019, 08:39 PM   #3
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Read that there is a bill on the Governor's desk to allow Hog killing without a license.
Would start September 1.

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I feel like that will be pointless for the following reasons..

Most people who kill pigs already have a license or they are grandfathered in by age so they donít need it. Also, farmers are exempt from a license if pigs are destroying crops so that rules out a large majority of people who would use this bill.

This will do absolutely nothing in my eyes. Those who would ďuseĒ this bill would have nowhere to kill except on public land which would realistically crowd public land hunters even more.

Iím all for wiping out pigs but I just donít see this being beneficial.


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I like it. Would like it even more if the language was just for Texas residents.

Out of state guys can still buy licenses to hunt them.
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I live 5 minutes from downtown Houston. Can see the buildings and fireworks from my roof. Pigs have torn up the golf coarse 2 blocks away numerous times. They have to travel 5 to 7 miles to find anything that resembles woods. This is a positive step. KAP............
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I live 5 minutes from downtown Houston. Can see the buildings and fireworks from my roof. Pigs have torn up the golf coarse 2 blocks away numerous times. They have to travel 5 to 7 miles to find anything that resembles woods. This is a positive step. KAP............


Let me just pull out my 45 and discharge it within city limits. Makes sense...


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Figure up what a Texas hunting and fishing license costs you per month.We're lucky.We get to do both year round.
Some folks cuss tpwd..Regs and such..But man we got it made.
I wish they'd pass a law that every citizen in Texas had to show their hunting license along with their d.l.,get a ticket if you don't have one.


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Old 05-15-2019, 08:50 PM   #8
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I don't see this making any difference. It doesn't even sound like a good idea to me.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:53 PM   #9
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I don't see this making any difference. It doesn't even sound like a good idea to me.


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Old 05-15-2019, 08:54 PM   #10
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Figure up what a Texas hunting and fishing license costs you per month.We're lucky.We get to do both year round.
Some folks cuss tpwd..Regs and such..But man we got it made.
I wish they'd pass a law that every citizen in Texas had to show their hunting license along with their d.l.,get a ticket if you don't have one.


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I second that. We donít need any more idiots running around with guns while we are hunting.


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Old 05-15-2019, 08:56 PM   #11
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What are the negatives to y'all.

I'm sure y'all are both red blooded Americans with conservative values.

What about the government giving you freedoms back scares you?
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I like it. Would like it even more if the language was just for Texas residents.

Out of state guys can still buy licenses to hunt them.
I like that...Sheesh. It is ONLY $48 for a 5 day non resident exotic tag. Is that too much to pay for a license to enjoy great Texas hunting? Nope. TPW should make that $50 and give the extra $2 to the farmers who feel the hog pain the most. Not the ones who are running high fence hog hunts, for obvious reasons. Non Residents SHOULD have to pay something to hunt in Texas.
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Feel good legislation, won't change a thing. I'm not against it or for it. I kill them any and every time I can, but I don't foresee someone jumping up to hog hunt just because they don't need a license, not in any appreciable numbers anyway.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:08 PM   #14
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What are the negatives to y'all.



I'm sure y'all are both red blooded Americans with conservative values.



What about the government giving you freedoms back scares you?


Iím still gonna pay for a hunting license so what freedoms are they giving me?


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Not seeing that in the text you quoted.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:21 PM   #16
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Not everything is about you. Now when my nephew comes into town from out of state who has never hunted in his life he can go one evening and not have to pay a tax (thatís what a license is). Or if one of my sons friends whoís family does not hunt tags along with us, he can legally shoot a hog.

Is this going to wipe out the hog population in Texas? Not a chance, but I donít see the negative. Donít see a bunch of fruits running out to buy a rifle because they no longer have to buy a $48 license.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:25 PM   #17
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Not everything is about you. Now when my nephew comes into town from out of state who has never hunted in his life he can go one evening and not have to pay a tax (thatís what a license is). Or if one of my sons friends whoís family does not hunt tags along with us, he can legally shoot a hog.



Is this going to wipe out the hog population in Texas? Not a chance, but I donít see the negative. Donít see a bunch of fruits running out to buy a rifle because they no longer have to buy a $48 license.


Why canít they just buy a license like a large majority of people have in the past? I bow hunt Oklahoma and I still have to pay an out of state license.


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Old 05-15-2019, 09:26 PM   #18
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I’m not deer hunting, I’m hog hunting. I don’t need a hunting license.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:27 PM   #19
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Iím not deer hunting, Iím hog hunting. I donít need a hunting license.


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Dang you have to have a license to hunt 😜😂?
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:35 PM   #21
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Not seeing that in the text you quoted.


Well heís stating that thereís a hog issue on his golf course in downtown Houston. This thread is about killing hogs so Iím putting two and two together.


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As far as public land, most will probably still require the Annual Public Hunt permit to hunt there. So, unless there are specific exceptions provided in the legislation or rule-making by TPWD, it shouldn't overly crowd existing public hunting areas.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:46 PM   #23
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As far as public land, most will probably still require the Annual Public Hunt permit to hunt there. So, unless there are specific exceptions provided in the legislation or rule-making by TPWD, it shouldn't overly crowd existing public hunting areas.


Just an FYI in case you didnít know this. You donít need the public land permit if you get drawn to hunt the land. I talk with the wardens in Waco and they say I donít need it to duck, pig, or dove hunt. And if Iím not mistaken you donít need it for archery season.


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Old 05-15-2019, 09:50 PM   #24
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Just an FYI in case you didnít know this. You donít need the public land permit if you get drawn to hunt the land. I talk with the wardens in Waco and they say I donít need it to duck, pig, or dove hunt. And if Iím not mistaken you donít need it for archery season.


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Really referring to WMAs, such as Granger and Sommerville.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:59 PM   #25
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DING DING DING The "new guy wins". 10 posts on one thread.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:13 PM   #26
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Whatever it takes to slow down the hog population.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:23 PM   #27
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"Honestly Mr. Game Warden, I'm not deer hunting, I'm hunting hogs. This grunt call, rattle horns, and doe urine works on hogs, right?"

Dumb idea.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:36 PM   #28
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Just an FYI in case you didnít know this. You donít need the public land permit if you get drawn to hunt the land. I talk with the wardens in Waco and they say I donít need it to duck, pig, or dove hunt. And if Iím not mistaken you donít need it for archery season.


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Assuming you are referencing Lake Waco public land, you are correct because it is controlled by COE. A lot of COE lands require you to get their permit or sign a waiver however you aren't required to have the APH permit.

Ray Roberts, Richland Chambers, Granger etc. require all hunters to posses the APH permit.
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Old 05-15-2019, 11:41 PM   #29
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As far as public land, most will probably still require the Annual Public Hunt permit to hunt there. So, unless there are specific exceptions provided in the legislation or rule-making by TPWD, it shouldn't overly crowd existing public hunting areas.
My understanding is the "no license needed" is for private land only. And the person will still need Hunters Ed.
As far as Texas residents, really won't make a difference if they already hunt. We still will buy a license to hunt every thing else. It's great for NR's now.
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Old 05-15-2019, 11:58 PM   #30
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Should increase new hunter numbers in the long run. Many times I've tried to get new or non hunters to go hunting and they balk at the invite when they have to deal with getting hunting license.
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Not everything is about you. Now when my nephew comes into town from out of state who has never hunted in his life he can go one evening and not have to pay a tax (thatís what a license is). Or if one of my sons friends whoís family does not hunt tags along with us, he can legally shoot a hog.

Is this going to wipe out the hog population in Texas? Not a chance, but I donít see the negative. Donít see a bunch of fruits running out to buy a rifle because they no longer have to buy a $48 license.
This is the true benefit that I see. It allows non-hunters exposure to hunting without the cost. I think it is a great hunter recruitment tool.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:31 AM   #32
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I don't think it will have much issue with in state hunters, but might see a large increase in out of state hunters coming in to hunt.
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really no different than now. Can go "target practicing" without a license.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:05 AM   #34
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I got my lifetime so I never have to think about it, just have to remember to get my tags if I am going to whitetail hunt.
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Land owners can already kill Hogs if they are destroying crops or land and they don't need a license. If you want to go hunting buy a license.
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I don't think it will have much issue with in state hunters, but might see a large increase in out of state hunters coming in to hunt.
As a NR who hog hunts in Texas every year, I don't see this as being a game changer. For me, the $48 spent on that license is such a small expense compared to the rest if the trip that it won't matter. I'll still buy it so if a javi presents itself I can kill it.
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Soooooooo many other things that should be prioritized over this in our legislature.....
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Can't really see it having much affect either way. I hear it mentioned a lot that some people don't go because of having to buy a license but honestly, I've never seen it happen first hand other than by people who seemed to be looking for a reason to back out after being invited. Maybe it actually does.
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Figure up what a Texas hunting and fishing license costs you per month.We're lucky.We get to do both year round.
Some folks cuss tpwd..Regs and such..But man we got it made.
I wish they'd pass a law that every citizen in Texas had to show their hunting license along with their d.l.,get a ticket if you don't have one.


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I agree with this. I love I only have to pay the $67 a year for the super combo and get all of my tags at once. I grew up in Oklahoma and there you have to buy each separately. So you have to buy archery deer tag, rifle deer tag, muzzleloader deer tag, and turkey tag. So I do save a bunch of money now.
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gofl coarse... different deal
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gofl coarse... different deal

Had a buddy that was a head greens keeper on a course in Hawaii. He used to carry a rifle to kill the wild goats that got out onto the course. I rode around with him a few times and it was fun. Little suckers will disappear on you quick in the rocks if your not paying attention though. LOL
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I say this is a good thing!
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I live 5 minutes from downtown Houston. Can see the buildings and fireworks from my roof. Pigs have torn up the golf coarse 2 blocks away numerous times. They have to travel 5 to 7 miles to find anything that resembles woods. This is a positive step. KAP............
Shouldn't take them but about couple minutes to travel 5-7 miles riding 4 deep on 20" rims to the golf course at night to do their thang.
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I am not against it but I don't see it making a huge difference. I guess every little bit helps though.
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Shouldn't take them but about couple minutes to travel 5-7 miles riding 4 deep on 20" rims to the golf course at night to do their thang.
A little slower if they sippin' on that lean.
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I think it's a great idea. We have people out to our house all the time and often have opportunities for people who'd never shot an animal or hunted in their life to shoot one from our front porch. This issue has always prevented it in the past.
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We have people out to our house all the time and often have opportunities for people who'd never shot an animal or hunted in their life to shoot one from our front porch. This issue has always prevented it in the past.
Not really.

"Hey you!!! Stop depradating!" *Hands gun to guest on porch* --> BOOM

Problem solved. Problem staying solved.
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Not really.

"Hey you!!! Stop depradating!" *Hands gun to guest on porch* --> BOOM

Problem solved. Problem staying solved.
I've always thought I had to have a "crop" to claim that. I looked up TPWD definition of depredation:

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