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Old 06-11-2019, 03:42 PM   #1
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Planning a trip the high country with my son this summer. Looking for camping and hiking recommendations. Not necessarily looking for back country trails or camping, in fact I think it would be preferable to have neighboring tents and kids around for evening, but then hit some less travelled trails during the day.

Here is the purpose. Itís a bit of coming of age sort of deal. I want this trip to challenge my son mentally and physically. At the end, I want him to realize he is capable of more than he thinks he is. I think this is an important lesson as he heads into jr high.

Iíve been looking at trails around Red River. Specifically Lost Lake. 10+ mi hike with pretty decent ascent, 2300 ft I think, that culminates with an alpine lake stocked with native cutthroat.

But Iím open to other suggestions for day hikes that will stretch him and provide a reward for his effort
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Old 06-11-2019, 03:58 PM   #2
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Have you looked into the gila national Forest? We went there during a boyscout trip when I was a freshman in highschool and it was a great trip had some moderate hikes as well as some much harder hikes if that is what you are looking for.

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Old 06-11-2019, 04:00 PM   #3
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If you aren't set on NM then Guadalupe Peak right on the border is an awesome hike.

It's close to Carlsbad caverns too
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:02 PM   #4
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I’ve hiked lost lake twice and is a hell of a hike, scenery is great but I’ve never caught fish up there. You can see them in the lake though
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:10 PM   #5
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If you aren't set on NM then Guadalupe Peak right on the border is an awesome hike.

It's close to Carlsbad caverns too
Iím not set on NM, but I ainít going to Gualupe in Aug. I want afternoon showers and 40 degrees at night.

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Iíve hiked lost lake twice and is a hell of a hike, scenery is great but Iíve never caught fish up there. You can see them in the lake though
Hell of a hike as in hard/challenging or great hike & scenery?
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:30 PM   #6
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Planning a trip the high country with my son this summer. Looking for camping and hiking recommendations. Not necessarily looking for back country trails or camping, in fact I think it would be preferable to have neighboring tents and kids around for evening, but then hit some less travelled trails during the day.



Here is the purpose. Itís a bit of coming of age sort of deal. I want this trip to challenge my son mentally and physically. At the end, I want him to realize he is capable of more than he thinks he is. I think this is an important lesson as he heads into jr high.



Iíve been looking at trails around Red River. Specifically Lost Lake. 10+ mi hike with pretty decent ascent, 2300 ft I think, that culminates with an alpine lake stocked with native cutthroat.



But Iím open to other suggestions for day hikes that will stretch him and provide a reward for his effort
I did the same thing with my son. Stewart Lake from Cowles NM. Start at Windsor Ridge TH. You won't be disappointed.

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Old 06-11-2019, 05:39 PM   #7
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My son is at ranch camp this week in Johnson city doing just that. I preferred to send him somewhere I’m not allowed. He’ll grow up a touch and be around kids and others for a week. We’ve done the family/dad thing since he was a baby. He’s old enough now to adventure out on his own (11 year old with supervision of course). At that age there are multiple camps for him to cut his teeth. He’ll be better for it. So will I.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:42 PM   #8
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:14 PM   #9
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My son and I did middle fork two summers ago. Same starting point as lost lake- just shorter. Challenging but very doable. My family is a big fan of Red River. Plenty of other trails, good fishing, neat little mountain town.


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Old 06-11-2019, 06:16 PM   #10
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:38 PM   #11
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Iím not set on NM, but I ainít going to Gualupe in Aug. I want afternoon showers and 40 degrees at night.
Well I've always been told my 9s look like 4s..
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:31 PM   #12
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My son is at ranch camp this week in Johnson city doing just that. I preferred to send him somewhere Iím not allowed. Heíll grow up a touch and be around kids and others for a week. Weíve done the family/dad thing since he was a baby. Heís old enough now to adventure out on his own (11 year old with supervision of course). At that age there are multiple camps for him to cut his teeth. Heíll be better for it. So will I.
We are going to have some conversations about what to expect in jr high. Boys jockeying for position in the herd (fighting), girls, Internet content, and peer pressure and substance abuse. Figure around a campfire or on a single track trail are about the best places in the world to have those conversations
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:48 PM   #13
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Lost Lake is a good choice you selected.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:19 PM   #14
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We are going to have some conversations about what to expect in jr high. Boys jockeying for position in the herd (fighting), girls, Internet content, and peer pressure and substance abuse. Figure around a campfire or on a single track trail are about the best places in the world to have those conversations
Yessir. Iíll applaud that. We do the Sam at deer camp. With a dad like you Iím sure heíll be just fine!
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:03 PM   #15
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I’d look at the Gila. Snow lake to the middle fork and back around through the meadows to snow lake. Great scenery and the trails not to bad. Or you can do the loop from TJ’s corral which is a great 4 day hike.

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Old 06-11-2019, 10:19 PM   #16
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I did the same thing with my son. Stewart Lake from Cowles NM. Start at Windsor Ridge TH. You won't be disappointed.

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Agreed. They caught a lot of snow this winter so that could add some challenges to the hike.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:53 PM   #17
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I did the same thing with my son. Stewart Lake from Cowles NM. Start at Windsor Ridge TH. You won't be disappointed.

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You have my attention! That is an hour closer than RR. Iíll have to do some research.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:07 AM   #18
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Just PM me for details if you want..We drove up and stayed the night in Las Vegas (NM) then drove to Cowles early next morning. Stewart Lake is loaded with trout. You can also take a day hike from Stewart over to Lake Katherine while there and maybe try to bag Santa Fe Baldy but that's a challenging all day affair. Going to Katherine isn't bad but the peak is a challenge.

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Old 06-12-2019, 05:09 PM   #19
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Just PM me for details if you want..We drove up and stayed the night in Las Vegas (NM) then drove to Cowles early next morning. Stewart Lake is loaded with trout. You can also take a day hike from Stewart over to Lake Katherine while there and maybe try to bag Santa Fe Baldy but that's a challenging all day affair. Going to Katherine isn't bad but the peak is a challenge.

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Man Iím really liking what Iím finding on Cowles Campground. This looks really nice, probably not terribly crowded either
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:41 PM   #20
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The Pecos is a beautiful place to camp and explore. I was fortunate enough to have to do some work up where the cowles hits the pecos years ago. I always loved working up there. I kept an ultralight spinning rig in my work truck for lunch breaks.


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