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Old 06-11-2019, 09:21 AM   #1
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A friend of mine recently acquired a bunch of money, and is looking into buying a new bay boat. He is looking for a 24'-25' bay boat good for everything from shallow running, to fishing the rough water at the jetties. He will probably take it off shore a little ways if the weather is right as well. What say you green screen, what is the absolute best bay boat on the market if you don't really have a budget? This is very foreign to me, but he is asking me to help him make sure he has a boat he'll feel ok about dropping so much money on. Here are the important features. Handles rough water well, dry, plenty deck space, and all around well built (doesn't want to worry about having a bunch of petty stuff break).
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:22 AM   #2
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Shallowsport X3 or a Dargel HDX 250.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:26 AM   #3
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There are two kinds of boats. Skinny water and not so skinny water.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:28 AM   #4
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24Ft Haynie HO

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Old 06-11-2019, 09:29 AM   #5
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There are two kinds of boats. Skinny water and not so skinny water.
We aren't really shallow water fisherman, although it won't be a bad thing to have the ability to get a little bit skinny. But he won't need it to draft in 6" of water or anything like that. Speed also isn't a priority, but its must be nice to be able to move down the channel at 75 mph.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:30 AM   #6
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Shallowsport X3 or a Dargel HDX 250.
I would add the trans cat 240 to the list.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:31 AM   #7
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I've alwaysbeen a fan of Mako boats. A little pricey, but worth it.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:32 AM   #8
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https://www.crevalleboats.com/boats/26-bay/

If I was in his situation it would be this one
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:40 AM   #9
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That Crevalle with its Carolina skiff hull design is sexy.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:41 AM   #10
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Im thinking Shearwater
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:42 AM   #11
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Based on your "shallow running, to fishing the rough water at the jetties. He will probably take it off shore " I would say Shallow Sport X3
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:44 AM   #12
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Everglade, Pathfinder, or Blackjack
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:45 AM   #13
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What bays and areas are your primary areas to fish, how about secondary?

I would have a different answer for Sabine/Galveston as I would Port Mansfield etc.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:48 AM   #14
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I'm a fan of the haynie magnums. Another boat I'd look at would be the shallow sport mod v. (I've never been in one, but have been doing a little research on them and would have to test drive one if I was in the market)
I think both will draft in 10" and I know the haynies take rough water very well.

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Old 06-11-2019, 09:49 AM   #15
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I love when TBH comes together and helps narrow the choices down and makes it easy..
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:50 AM   #16
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Get the big console, with a big T top. It's nice to be able to get some shade between wades, even moreso off shore.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:54 AM   #17
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Whaler

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I would love to have a Dauntless 270
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:00 AM   #18
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What bays and areas are your primary areas to fish, how about secondary?

I would have a different answer for Sabine/Galveston as I would Port Mansfield etc.
Sabine/ Galveston is where it will be.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:08 AM   #19
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A friend of mine recently acquired a bunch of money, and is looking into buying a new bay boat. He is looking for a 24'-25' bay boat good for everything from shallow running, to fishing the rough water at the jetties. He will probably take it off shore a little ways if the weather is right as well. What say you green screen, what is the absolute best bay boat on the market if you don't really have a budget? This is very foreign to me, but he is asking me to help him make sure he has a boat he'll feel ok about dropping so much money on. Here are the important features. Handles rough water well, dry, plenty deck space, and all around well built (doesn't want to worry about having a bunch of petty stuff break).
I would like to formally apply for a friendship as well. I’m also in the Beaumont area and will make myself available to fish any time.
My vote would be Shallow Sport X3 as well.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:09 AM   #20
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Pathfinder 26HPS, 300 grey Yamaha. This boat will do what he wants.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:11 AM   #21
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When you say a bunch of money..define a bunch?
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:12 AM   #22
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:18 AM   #23
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When you say a bunch of money..define a bunch?
Enough to buy any boat on the market. Old money, hard worker with the right last name and no siblings.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:19 AM   #24
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Enough to buy any boat on the market. Old money, hard worker with the right last name and no siblings.


2 boats!


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Old 06-11-2019, 10:24 AM   #25
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Shallowsport X3 or a Dargel HDX 250.
Mark me down for this.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:25 AM   #26
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Lots of cool boats already mentioned. I would absolutely love to have the funds to geek out on boat rigging with all the new motor and electronic tech that has come out in the last several years.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:28 AM   #27
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Enough to buy any boat on the market. Old money, hard worker with the right last name and no siblings.
Dang! Jealous
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:30 AM   #28
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Dang! Jealous
You and me both. I'm gonna be his designated fish cleaner/boat cleaner. For sure some good suggestions thus far. Opened up some boats he didn't know about. He really likes the Haynie, and likes the look of a Simmons, but they take so dang long to get in.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:34 AM   #29
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32 foot X3 is the way to go. 16 inch static, 12 inch running draft. Add a sea-keeper to that boat and it is the perfect blend of inshore and offshore. The X3 is on my mental list of Lotto boats, along with the Grady White Canyon 456 for offshore!

Some of the boats in this thread are just not worthy of the 'unlimited budget' outlined in the OP!!!
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:36 AM   #30
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Shallowsport X3 or a Dargel HDX 250.
I will second that X3 also. My uncle fishes one in POC from the inland lakes to outside the big jetties. And you dam sure wont find much more deck space on a bay boat. They are some big sombeeches.

Another recommendation would be an El Pescador classic or Cat. We fish a 24ft Classic in 12'' to open water. They handle waves like no other and have plenty space to fish comfortably. The Dargel isn't a bad choice either.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:36 AM   #31
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I am with Dale on this if Money isn't an object.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:51 AM   #32
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:05 AM   #33
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Enough to buy any boat on the market. Old money, hard worker with the right last name and no siblings.
Skip the bay boat.


He needs a yacht. First stop Miami. The only additional accessories should bikinis from yacht groupies.

If this plan doesn't work for him i'll send him my bank's routing number.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:08 AM   #34
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Well if he's loaded why not buy a 24 ft yellow fin.

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Old 06-11-2019, 11:15 AM   #35
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Well if he's loaded why not buy a 24 ft yellow fin.

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He looked at those and the Contender bay boat which is similar. The Yellowfin has cruise control . The Simmons is also insane, but I'm not sure the hull is built for what he's going to use it for.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:19 AM   #36
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I'm assuming y'all will be leaving out of Sabine, and no offense to any of the mid to lower coast guys but they have completely different needs than we do. I fish several times a year with my buddies from Port Oconnor to Port Mansfield and they all run Shallow Sports and Haynies, and while those are great boats they don't get the same chop we get around here.

If I had the money to get any bay boat I could, I'd go with one of the Tritons or Rangers, or even skeeter and champion used to make a heavier framed hull. It's not the offshore looking hull, it is still looks like a bay boat. As also said, the pathfinders are great boats but can be just as wet as some of those shallow sports, so if I was going that route I'd go with the 26 foot pathfinder. The yellowfins are insanely nice but you are gonna pay for it. Also take a look at the Sportsman boats, they are pretty nice too.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:24 AM   #37
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Nothing but love for my new Nartic Star 244XTS. I didnt buy the top as I need to pass under bridges
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:33 AM   #38
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Money no problem? Do it all? X3... close thread..
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:34 AM   #39
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I'm assuming y'all will be leaving out of Sabine, and no offense to any of the mid to lower coast guys but they have completely different needs than we do. I fish several times a year with my buddies from Port Oconnor to Port Mansfield and they all run Shallow Sports and Haynies, and while those are great boats they don't get the same chop we get around here.

If I had the money to get any bay boat I could, I'd go with one of the Tritons or Rangers, or even skeeter and champion used to make a heavier framed hull. It's not the offshore looking hull, it is still looks like a bay boat. As also said, the pathfinders are great boats but can be just as wet as some of those shallow sports, so if I was going that route I'd go with the 26 foot pathfinder. The yellowfins are insanely nice but you are gonna pay for it. Also take a look at the Sportsman boats, they are pretty nice too.
That is kind of the concern for him, which is the purpose of me creating this thread. Wants to make sure he's got a grip of everything available, and then figure out which is going to be best for him. There are several on this thread neither of us had heard of before this thread. A
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:35 AM   #40
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I like my Ranger 22 ft fished Sabine for 12 year's in it now it's a crappy boat

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Old 06-11-2019, 11:42 AM   #41
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Money no problem? Do it all? X3... close thread..
Agree, not sure some of these posters know what it is.. Just read shallow sport and think 'wet ride'.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:44 AM   #42
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I'd tell him go see John Turner and check out his boats. https://turnerboatworks.com/

I like Haynies and Trans as far as quality and fishability goes. He should definitely look at the 24 XLR8, 240 Tran Cat, Haynie 23 Super Cat and the Haynie 25 Magnum. He might also take a look at the 25' JH Outlaw, I like them alot too. They have a ton of fishing space, run fairly fast and will run very shallow. That pretty much sums up my short list of hulls I like.

I don't care for the Dargel cat, too much wasted space. It has a monster big console and not alot of fishing space for the size of the boat. The Shallowsport X3 is a huge boat and would probably be worth a look if he feels like he needs something that big.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:47 AM   #43
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https://yellowfin.com/boats/24-bay

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X3....for a “do everything” boat. Pricey though.







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Old 06-11-2019, 12:04 PM   #45
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Money no problem? Do it all? X3... close thread..
X3 handles rough water well, and isn't a wet riding boat? That's a new one that seems to have his interest with all the love on this thread.
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:06 PM   #46
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X3 handles rough water well, and isn't a wet riding boat? That's a new one that seems to have his interest with all the love on this thread.
For years everyone tried to build a do everything boat... and they all failed miserably... until the X3.

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Old 06-11-2019, 12:25 PM   #47
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Simmons Rev 25 with a 400 Mercury if he wants something with show. But for what it sounds like he wants, the X3 is really the way to go. Hang that new 350 Suzuki on the back.
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:26 PM   #48
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Oh and a buddy just ordered a Simmons. If he wants one he better be patient. One year wait.
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Old 06-11-2019, 01:02 PM   #49
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Oh and a buddy just ordered a Simmons. If he wants one he better be patient. One year wait.

I am fixing to order the 23
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