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Old 06-10-2019, 06:10 PM   #1
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Just saw where Abbott signed the bill which will increase legal age of buying tobacco products to 21 effective Sept 1st


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Old 06-10-2019, 06:13 PM   #2
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Wise move IMO
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:16 PM   #3
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:17 PM   #4
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Won't make a bit of difference.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:18 PM   #5
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Great, more laws to protect adults from themselves......
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They need to move the age that you can join the military or vote then. If you're not mature enough to know what tobacco can do to you at 18 you don't need to be making choices to go fight or war or who's leading our country.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:25 PM   #7
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They need to move the age that you can join the military or vote then. If you're not mature enough to know what tobacco can do to you at 18 you don't need to be making choices to go fight or war or who's leading our country.
Agree 100%
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:26 PM   #8
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Won't make a bit of difference.
I disagree. Not saying they wonít be able to find it, but I do believe it will make it more difficult. Itís too easy for a senior in high school to buy up tobacco products for younger folks. I donít know a lot of 18 year olds with 21 year old friends. If it hadnít been for the seniors, Iíd have never gotten my snuff as I didnít know anyone much older than high school. I think the biggest impact will be less tobacco in schools. It will still be there, but I think it will be a lot more challenging than it used to be.

I think if anything, the age might have been bumped to 19-20. At least get the legal age out of high school for the most part.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:29 PM   #9
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They need to move the age that you can join the military or vote then. If you're not mature enough to know what tobacco can do to you at 18 you don't need to be making choices to go fight or war or who's leading our country.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:38 PM   #10
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I disagree. Not saying they wonít be able to find it, but I do believe it will make it more difficult. Itís too easy for a senior in high school to buy up tobacco products for younger folks. I donít know a lot of 18 year olds with 21 year old friends. If it hadnít been for the seniors, Iíd have never gotten my snuff as I didnít know anyone much older than high school. I think the biggest impact will be less tobacco in schools. It will still be there, but I think it will be a lot more challenging than it used to be.

I think if anything, the age might have been bumped to 19-20. At least get the legal age out of high school for the most part.
Nah. I was pretty crafty at getting tobacco, alcohol, and pot when I was underage. Kids these days are even more crafty I think. Teenagers will always find a way.

Can't buy a gun until your 18. Should that be moved up to 21? Will that stop school shootings? Same logic applies. Making a law does not stop something from happening.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:38 PM   #11
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I disagree. Not saying they wonít be able to find it, but I do believe it will make it more difficult. Itís too easy for a senior in high school to buy up tobacco products for younger folks. I donít know a lot of 18 year olds with 21 year old friends. If it hadnít been for the seniors, Iíd have never gotten my snuff as I didnít know anyone much older than high school. I think the biggest impact will be less tobacco in schools. It will still be there, but I think it will be a lot more challenging than it used to be.

I think if anything, the age might have been bumped to 19-20. At least get the legal age out of high school for the most part.
Maybe it will make it harder for them, but I never had trouble finding 21 year olds to buy me alcohol when I was in school. I kinda figure this will be the same.
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Drinking age has been 21 in Texas since 1986. How's that working out for underage drinking? LOL!
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Nah. I was pretty crafty at getting tobacco, alcohol, and pot when I was underage. Kids these days are even more crafty I think. Teenagers will always find a way.

Can't buy a gun until your 18. Should that be moved up to 21? Will that stop school shootings? Same logic applies. Making a law does not stop something from happening.
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Maybe it will make it harder for them, but I never had trouble finding 21 year olds to buy me alcohol when I was in school. I kinda figure this will be the same.
Well in that case, let’s just drop the drinking age to 18 lol

I’m in my 30’s so I’m not impacted. Just figured it would be good for popcorn this evening
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I disagree. Not saying they wonít be able to find it, but I do believe it will make it more difficult. Itís too easy for a senior in high school to buy up tobacco products for younger folks. I donít know a lot of 18 year olds with 21 year old friends. If it hadnít been for the seniors, Iíd have never gotten my snuff as I didnít know anyone much older than high school. I think the biggest impact will be less tobacco in schools. It will still be there, but I think it will be a lot more challenging than it used to be.

I think if anything, the age might have been bumped to 19-20. At least get the legal age out of high school for the most part.
Agree also, High school kids are probably the most impressionable creatures on earth. Making nicotine even a frog hair harder to obtain is a good thing.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:48 PM   #15
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Guess there will be a lot of people in my neck of the woods running across the border and buying it by the roll. Itís a lot cheaper on the other side of the river anyway.


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Old 06-10-2019, 06:50 PM   #16
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Drinking age has been 21 in Texas since 1986. How's that working out for underage drinking? LOL!
Teen drinking Is actually at an all time low

Several studies show it's easier to get weed than alcohol
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:52 PM   #17
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Glad they moved it up.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:55 PM   #18
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The original draft I believe exempted military from the 21 age. 18 still applied. .
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:00 PM   #20
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This is what we did on Friday nights to get beer . Drinkin age was 18 in La back then .
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This ^^^^^^
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:23 PM   #23
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:35 PM   #24
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:54 PM   #25
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Don't mean to hijack the thread but I see you are in Whitesboro. When you come in 82 from Gainesville and take 56 look to the left. There are two very tall pine trees there. My dad and I planted those where my grandparents house was many years ago. I'm 57 now and those were saplings.




Those are the first 2 pines that you come to on 56 about a half mile off of 82.



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Old 06-10-2019, 07:59 PM   #26
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Yea, i am so glad the govt is here to protect us.....
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Maybe they should do the same with marijuana.
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Good move. Getting tired of paying higher insurance rates for treating all the sicknesses and diseases caused by tobacco. I quit several years ago.
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:11 PM   #29
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Another erosion to personally liberty.

Welcome to a broadened nanny state.

The real hypocrisy is it was passed and signed for by so called “conservatives”.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:07 PM   #30
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Thatís pretty cool!
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Several studies show it's easier to get weed than alcohol
Whatís legal age for weed?
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Surprised so many here are happy to see the government taking away our freedoms
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:07 PM   #33
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I'll be darned, quit in 2011 and one of the best decisions I ever made.
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They need to move the age that you can join the military or vote then. If you're not mature enough to know what tobacco can do to you at 18 you don't need to be making choices to go fight or war or who's leading our country.
Agreed.
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:14 PM   #35
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Another erosion to personally liberty.

Welcome to a broadened nanny state.

The real hypocrisy is it was passed and signed for by so called ďconservativesĒ.


This. You are either an adult are you arenít. Letís move the legal age to 35 to buy a gun while they are at it. All of yalíll were pizzed when D&cks decided not to sell guns to people under 21 but you are okay with making 21 the legal age for tobacco? Jeez, you can vote at 18 and that has more influence on your life that if some kid is smoking a cigarette.


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Old 06-10-2019, 11:40 PM   #37
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Pretty dumb honestly. Teens are gonna get it. The same way they get alcohol now. I agree with they should move the voting age and age to join the military to 21 now. OR keep it at 18 and give them the rights to use tobacco and vote and also consume and purchase alcohol IF they’re in the military. If you’re old enough to die for this country you’re old enough to drink imo, but only if you’re in the military. I’m 21, been dipping since I was 14. I can tell you it wasn’t hard to get it then. It wasn’t hard to get alcohol in highschool either. Doesn’t affect me in anyway but I still think it’s dumb. More things to worry about than tobacco products
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They need to move the age that you can join the military or vote then. If you're not mature enough to know what tobacco can do to you at 18 you don't need to be making choices to go fight or war or who's leading our country.
Mic drop, close thread.
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:05 AM   #39
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The age to buy beer when I was in high school was 21. We could always find some beer some way eventually. I didnít smoke pot, but I could have bought enough for a weekend at lunch on Friday, it was a lot harder to get beer.


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Ridiculous law.

This is not going to stop any kids from getting snuff or cigarettes if they want them. When I dipped it was not hard to get before I turned 18, and neither was beer or weed.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:01 AM   #41
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I'm sure these are the same lawmakers who are against gambling and weed legalization. Protecting us against ourselves.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:08 AM   #42
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Another erosion to personally liberty.

Welcome to a broadened nanny state.

The real hypocrisy is it was passed and signed for by so called “conservatives”.
I have to agree. At some point we either declare that adults are not responsible for their actions, change the legal age of adulthood to 21 or we let adults make mistakes and pay the consequences. But if we choose the latter route we have to quit allowing people to get away with lawsuits that attempt to make up for their bad choices.

Our Government (Federal or State) should not be in a position to tell us what we (as adults) can or cannot consume. But I shouldn't be able to sue McDonalds, Phillip Morris or Brown-Forman for decades of bad choices.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:16 AM   #43
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My thoughts exactly when I see these threads.

Last time, I made a comment about doing away with the law regarding liquor sales on Sunday. I was arguing for less "government" and was called, by a so-called conservative, a "hippie" and told to go "back to CA if you don't like our laws in Texas." Ö. Ohhh the irony.
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Your obviously a smoker ; )
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My thoughts exactly when I see these threads.

Last time, I made a comment about doing away with the law regarding liquor sales on Sunday. I was arguing for less "government" and was called, by a so-called conservative, a "hippie" and told to go "back to CA if you don't like our laws in Texas." Ö. Ohhh the irony.
I don't smoke, never have. I don't want my son to smoke, and I hope he hasn't. I think smoking is one of the worst things a person can do to themselves, very close to suicide. However, I don't think it should be outlawed in any way, and I think that it's wrong to tax something that the government thinks is so bad. I, like you, don't see how the Sunday laws haven't been repealed by the legislature, if not the courts. I'm a Christian, but I'm not naÔve enough to the think banning alcohol sales on Sunday stops one person from drinking on Sunday.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:26 AM   #46
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You same hypocrites that are praising this law would crap in your mess-kit if they tried to move the age to purchase a firearm to 25. It's government overreach, pure and simple. The more we let them take, the less we have. Legal drinking age should be lowered to 18, because that's when you're considered an adult in this country and can make your own decisions....oh, but let's have the government help us. Yeah, right.

Below are the only countries (except for Muslim nations that allow zero alcohol) that have a 21 drinking age (updated 2016):

CŰte d'Ivoire, Equatorial Guinea, Iraq, Kiribati, Micronesia, Mongolia, Nauru, Oman, Palau, Samoa, Sri Lanka, United States.

Yeah, great company.

I know this is a thread about cigarettes, but the same applies.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:51 AM   #47
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If you're referring to me, you're mistaken.

Curt ^ just about summed it up.

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Old 06-11-2019, 08:54 AM   #48
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I agree with Curt and several others. Lots of hypocrites here. I call them "convenient conservatives". They are for smaller government only if it fits their lifestyle and belief system. Otherwise bring on the government control.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:54 AM   #49
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I disagree with doing this. Do I want my kids to grow up and use tobacco? Absolutely not. But if your going to raise then what about raising the age to purchase a rifle to 21? What about not being tried as an adult to 21? Military? Voting? I see the argument of why should a 20 year old be allowed to buy this shotgun if he’s not smart enough to decide to smoke or not for another year? Seems like a slippery slope..
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Gota AGREE..........

and if its 21 0r 18 they got a buddy that can and will buy them for them.Or they will just steal them
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