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Old 02-11-2019, 11:25 PM   #1
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Unhappy Protestant Sex Abuse Scandal

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pu...D=ansmsnnews11

I know when the Catholic scandal was being discussed on here some suggested that the root of the problem was due to the celibacy policy. I'd like to suggest that this new scandal refutes this theory.

In my opinion there are a couple reasons for these scandals. 1st, I believe that the closer you get to God, the harder the devil works to tempt and corrupt your soul. 2nd, the powers of evil (in the form of communists and democrats) have long been doing their best to infiltrate many religious/humanitarian organizations so as to destroy them (along with our country) from within.

Any time you kneel beside your bed to pray for yourself or your loved ones, pray also for the men and women who are sharing God's message. Let there be no doubt there is a spiritual war raging in this world and they need our support.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:39 PM   #2
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I know when the Catholic scandal was being discussed on here some suggested that the root of the problem was due to the celibacy policy. I'd like to suggest that this new scandal refutes this theory.



In my opinion there are a couple reasons for these scandals. 1st, I believe that the closer you get to God, the harder the devil works to tempt and corrupt your soul. 2nd, the powers of evil (in the form of communists and democrats) have long been doing their best to infiltrate many religious/humanitarian organizations so as to destroy them (along with our country) from within.



Any time you kneel beside your bed to pray for yourself or your loved ones, pray also for the men and women who are sharing God's message. Let there be no doubt there is a spiritual war raging in this world and they need our support.


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Old 02-12-2019, 08:18 AM   #3
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I’m not shocked. I don’t disagree with your theory. Churches and organizations of all types must prevent and deal with these and stop sweeping them under the rug
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:27 AM   #4
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The SBC abandoned what a biblical church should be decades ago.

The seminaries taught how how to run a church like a business instead of a hospital for the hurting. These are the effects of it...get ready, there is more.

I suspect the only change that takes place is the posting of “I am sorry” letters to social media and other news outlets.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:29 AM   #5
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Predators lurk in the most unlikely of places.
No one ever sees them until it's too late.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:52 AM   #6
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Predators lurk in the most unlikely of places.
No one ever sees them until it's too late.
No they lurk where prey is teaming and that prey has its defenses down because they believe it to be a safe environment
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Old 02-12-2019, 04:11 PM   #7
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Every church has people who say they are believers but in what is the question. Remember - even the devil believes in Jesus and his demons acknowledged Jesus as God throughout the Bible. But they are not willing to submit to His lordship.

For anyone to say the problem is only in the Catholic church is naive and has forgotten Jerry Falwell and slew of other TV evangelists. This problem is in every church.
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:41 PM   #8
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In the same manner that we expect Muslims to denounce the evils within their religion, we should be vehemently denouncing this. While our God is one of forgiveness, He is also one that allows for consequences. If you suspect an adult is diddling a child in your church speak up and do not be quiet about it. The world needs to know that the righteous will not stand for it.
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The SBC abandoned what a biblical church should be decades ago.

The seminaries taught how how to run a church like a business instead of a hospital for the hurting. These are the effects of it...get ready, there is more.

I suspect the only change that takes place is the posting of “I am sorry” letters to social media and other news outlets.
Wow, that’s a really bold, sweeping, and inflammatory statement! I would love to hear how you came to this conclusion? I’d bet we studied under some of the same Profs and I never felt I was in Business 101. Pm if you’d rather in order to keep this thread on topic.
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:02 PM   #10
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If you suspect an adult is diddling a child anywhere at anytime speak up and do not be quiet about it. The world needs to know that the righteous will not stand for it.
I think that is what you meant. With all the radical left Alphabet soup people wanting to normalize pedophilia we need all protectors on their toes when it comes to our children.
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Old 02-13-2019, 09:11 PM   #11
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Wow, that’s a really bold, sweeping, and inflammatory statement! I would love to hear how you came to this conclusion? I’d bet we studied under some of the same Profs and I never felt I was in Business 101. Pm if you’d rather in order to keep this thread on topic.
You are right Jason. I was pretty disheartened to read that article and attached some bias to it that isn’t really fair.

With that said, I pray that churches participate in biblical church discipline in these matters...that article hit pretty close to some loved ones. I wonder if sometimes the “image” of a congregation may be more important than the Message.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:49 PM   #12
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:08 AM   #13
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:22 AM   #14
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Every church has people who say they are believers but in what is the question. Remember - even the devil believes in Jesus and his demons acknowledged Jesus as God throughout the Bible. But they are not willing to submit to His lordship.

For anyone to say the problem is only in the Catholic church is naive and has forgotten Jerry Falwell and slew of other TV evangelists. This problem is in every church.
Let's see, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Baker, Robert Tilton etc etc etc.
Another I don't remember his name but was the pastor of the Baptist church I went to as a kid who ran off with the church secretary and all the building fund money leaving his wife and 2 kids behind to fend for themselves. I was soured on organized religion from that point on. I can't help but view them all as crooked and not to be trusted with anything especially money and other peoples wives and kids.. Oh and lets not forget Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple

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Old 02-15-2019, 06:27 PM   #15
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The religious slant is interesting. Bottom line, there is trash in every chosen profession......or calling. There is more in some areas than others but we all know it is there. If anybody on this forum really even considered thinking it was a Catholic's only has got to be functioning on a minimal pulse.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:59 PM   #16
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To some degree I understand the argument of “there are bad people in every profession” but there is a big difference between a child molester who is a CPA/electrician/grocery clerk and a child molester who is a YOUTH PASTOR! Yes they are made of the same crooked human timber as the rest of us but I don’t think it’s too much to ask to hold them to a higher standard. Imperfect human? Fine but how about at a minimum YOU DONT DIDDLE THE KIDS YOU HAVE BEEN ENTRUSTED WITH? This kinda stuff does incalculable damage and not just to the kids involved. It confirms the skeptic’s worst opinions about organized religion, faith communities and faith in general. These kinds of stories push the fence-riders off the fence in the wrong direction
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:40 PM   #17
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:16 AM   #18
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Organized religion is man made and evil. Most Christians I know need to sit down and re-read their bibles


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Old 02-22-2019, 05:11 PM   #19
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But many would argue that the 1st organized Christian religion was made by a man named Jesus.
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You aint never lied! This thread is not even close to the Catholic thread was.........ouch!!!
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So does anyone believe that the percentage of deviants in the church are going to be any different tg than in society in general?

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I was talking to some neighbors tonight who left the Catholic church over this. It affected our decision to do the same.

Unfortunately, this kind of thing is prevalent in church environments.
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You aint never lied! This thread is not even close to the Catholic thread was.........ouch!!!
SBC churches are autonomous congregations.

The Catholic Church is not. The systemic coverup in the Catholic Church is in a completely different category.

These SBC issues fall at feet of the individual church leaders involved and in no way reflect on the denomination as a whole.
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The point of my post was that we are in the middle of a spiritual war. We need to pray for all priests, preachers, pastors, ministers, etc.

We can bury our heads in the sand and tell ourselves, "No big. This is a problem they're having, not us." Or we can join the fray through prayer (one of the most powerful weapons given to us by God).
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The point of my post was that we are in the middle of a spiritual war. We need to pray for all priests, preachers, pastors, ministers, etc.

We can bury our heads in the sand and tell ourselves, "No big. This is a problem they're having, not us." Or we can join the fray through prayer (one of the most powerful weapons given to us by God).
Amen.
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Old 02-23-2019, 08:13 PM   #27
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We can bury our heads in the sand and tell ourselves, "No big. This is a problem they're having, not us."
............and that was the EXACT point of my post! Pervasive and systemic within the religions of the world no matter how it is sliced, diced and interpreted.
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