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Old 02-08-2019, 03:50 PM   #52
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As tedious as that was to listen to, she makes a valid point that govt is run amuck and our elected officials are lining their pockets at the expense of the American people
That is true sir. I think the video is making its rounds on the interwebs not becouse of the point made....but its delivery.
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That is true sir. I think the video is making its rounds on the interwebs not becouse of the point made....but its delivery.
That may be the most well spoken, succinct Iíve ever heard her. Sheís improving, thatís not good
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Old 02-08-2019, 04:29 PM   #54
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Which would be a better source for comedy gaffes, general awkwardness, and incompetence?

Beto/Ocasio 2020
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Old 02-08-2019, 04:35 PM   #55
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She only pushed her obviously absurd Green Dream to get media coverage, and it's working. Look at everyone talking about it.
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No way Biden/Ocasio.... Dirty Uncle Joe was a gaff-fest when he was the supporting role, I can only imagine when heís the 1st on the ticket
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Thing that gets me is all the current dems who have announced their presidential run have come out to say they support this language...the dem party is simply trying to out left each other & clearly moving towards socialist ideas.

I'm afraid we may have reached a point where we are going to have to fight for our liberties granted to us by the founding fathers if this creepy voting trend continues...genuinely nervous about the future & need to figure out how to turn this ship around.

Who would have ever thought we would see this in the US:

~bovine flatulence as a concern that needs govt intervention.

~retrofit or rebuild all man made structures commercial & residential

~ending of all fossil fuel / internal combustion engines & air travel

~Kamala is stating obamacare isn't good enough & wants an end to the free market health ins as we know it & go full blown socialized govt run healthcare.


Half of our govt officials did not stand or applaud when our POTUS said 'the US will NEVER become socialist' at the state of the union!! WTH does this tell you. How can this green bill be of any serious consideration to anyone with half a brain & yet all the current dem potus hopefuls are OK with it?? They want to end the gas / oil & nuclear industries without a viable alternative in a 10yr window?? You think John Deere or International is going to make an electric tractor / rig to get our groceries out of the ground & distributed. I bet Russia is going to love our electric tanks & fighter jets.

It's asinine we are even having to discuss such a dim witted proposal...you really gotta laugh as taking it with any sort of actual possibility is too much to fathom. What the hell is going on with our country??


When asked how to pay for this AOC was quoted to have saying "we'll print more money".
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Thing that gets me is all the current dems who have announced their presidential run have come out to say they support this language...the dem party is simply trying to out left each other & clearly moving towards socialist ideas.

I'm afraid we may have reached a point where we are going to have to fight for our liberties granted to us by the founding fathers if this creepy voting trend continues...genuinely nervous about the future & need to figure out how to turn this ship around.

Who would have ever thought we would see this in the US:

~bovine flatulence as a concern that needs govt intervention.

~retrofit or rebuild all man made structures commercial & residential

~ending of all fossil fuel / internal combustion engines & air travel

~Kamala is stating obamacare isn't good enough & wants an end to the free market health ins as we know it & go full blown socialized govt run healthcare.


Half of our govt officials did not stand or applaud when our POTUS said 'the US will NEVER become socialist' at the state of the union!! WTH does this tell you. How can this green bill be of any serious consideration to anyone with half a brain & yet all the current dem potus hopefuls are OK with it?? They want to end the gas / oil & nuclear industries without a viable alternative in a 10yr window?? You think John Deere or International is going to make an electric tractor / rig to get our groceries out of the ground & distributed. I bet Russia is going to love our electric tanks & fighter jets.

It's asinine we are even having to discuss such a dim witted proposal...you really gotta laugh as taking it with any sort of actual possibility is too much to fathom. What the hell is going on with our country??


When asked how to pay for this AOC was quoted to have saying "we'll print more money".
Hey donít worry about it, she clearly has all the details figured out and she has an economics degree from one of those fancy Ivy League schools. She clearly has all the answers
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Which would be a better source for comedy gaffes, general awkwardness, and incompetence?

Beto/Ocasio 2020
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Biden/Ocasio 2020
No way Ocasio would settle for 2nd billing. She will wait until she can be at the top of the ticket. I would love to see Beto have to debate Trump. Trump will wipe the floor with him.
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Thing that gets me is all the current dems who have announced their presidential run have come out to say they support this language...the dem party is simply trying to out left each other & clearly moving towards socialist ideas.

I'm afraid we may have reached a point where we are going to have to fight for our liberties granted to us by the founding fathers if this creepy voting trend continues...genuinely nervous about the future & need to figure out how to turn this ship around.

Who would have ever thought we would see this in the US:

~bovine flatulence as a concern that needs govt intervention.

~retrofit or rebuild all man made structures commercial & residential

~ending of all fossil fuel / internal combustion engines & air travel

~Kamala is stating obamacare isn't good enough & wants an end to the free market health ins as we know it & go full blown socialized govt run healthcare.


Half of our govt officials did not stand or applaud when our POTUS said 'the US will NEVER become socialist' at the state of the union!! WTH does this tell you. How can this green bill be of any serious consideration to anyone with half a brain & yet all the current dem potus hopefuls are OK with it?? They want to end the gas / oil & nuclear industries without a viable alternative in a 10yr window?? You think John Deere or International is going to make an electric tractor / rig to get our groceries out of the ground & distributed. I bet Russia is going to love our electric tanks & fighter jets.

It's asinine we are even having to discuss such a dim witted proposal...you really gotta laugh as taking it with any sort of actual possibility is too much to fathom. What the hell is going on with our country??


When asked how to pay for this AOC was quoted to have saying "we'll print more money".


I keep telling myself that thereís no way the people of America could fall for this and vote for people this far left. But then again, we may just be at the tipping point of losing our country. This is not an overnight plan from the left. What we are seeing is 50-60 years In the making. This push to communism has been a long term goal that started in the 60s. And here we are. I hate to think this way, but it may be too late to take our country back at the ballot box alone.
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Talked to a fellow 30 miles east of Portland today. He is mad. Around 45% of Oregon is red and 55% blue. Ninety percent of the state is red with one large city voting them down. It's getting old..........
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Which would be a better source for comedy gaffes, general awkwardness, and incompetence?

Beto/Ocasio 2020
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I bet the Dems on here are happy with that all star line they have.
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AOC will not be on the 2020 ticket...you have to be 35yrs old to qualify for potus which takes her out of the picture for even VP & speaker as she is only 29. Hard to believe this idiot was born a year after I graduated from HS!! MSM is giving her way too much credibility & airtime. Im hoping she continues to trip over her tongue and fall on her face to knock out the horse teeth. This chick is really spooky& doesn't need a cult like following the MSM is helping with.

We are so so screwed...our founding fathers were brilliant but they messed up in two areas.

~ALL elected public servants need term limits regardless of municipal, county, state or national.

~you are not eligible to vote unless you own property and/or pay taxes. Those on any public assistance / dependents via the help from the working American taxpayer should not be able to vote into power the very people who make laws that encourage them to stay in the dependent condition!! If you are living in govt housing & eating with food stamps paid for by those of us that work to do the same, should not have a privilege to vote in a politician so willing to pass laws to take even more $$$$ out of my check to give you more free crap!!
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I swear, she's like the cheerleader running for 8th grade student council president .


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AOC will not be on the 2020 ticket...you have to be 35yrs old to qualify for potus which takes her out of the picture for even VP & speaker as she is only 29. Hard to believe this idiot was born a year after I graduated from HS!! MSM is giving her way too much credibility & airtime. Im hoping she continues to trip over her tongue and fall on her face to knock out the horse teeth. This chick is really spooky& doesn't need a cult like following the MSM is helping with.

We are so so screwed...our founding fathers were brilliant but they messed up in two areas.

~ALL elected public servants need term limits regardless of municipal, county, state or national.

~you are not eligible to vote unless you own property and/or pay taxes. Those on any public assistance / dependents via the help from the working American taxpayer should not be able to vote into power the very people who make laws that encourage them to stay in the dependent condition!! If you are living in govt housing & eating with food stamps paid for by those of us that work to do the same, should not have a privilege to vote in a politician so willing to pass laws to take even more $$$$ out of my check to give you more free crap!!
In defense of the founding fatherís they never envisioned a society of public dependents, they assumed Americans would forge their own way, thus paying their own way
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we could only wish! wowowowow. what an arse whoopin' that would be.

for aoc / beto.
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In defense of the founding fatherís they never envisioned a society of public dependents, they assumed Americans would forge their own way, thus paying their own way
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Good read, but this is basically what I meant. Public assistance was for the poor who A) were not able bodied, B) didnít have family. Todayís public assistance does not take either of those into account.

I certainly like the idea of public assistance at the county level rather than federal or state, as well as the concept of ďpoorhouseĒ where public works were expected in exchange for public assistance.

Can you imagine if we filled government payroll spots with those on welfare. We could lower our govt operating expense AND reduced our welfare budget?
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No way Ocasio would settle for 2nd billing. She will wait until she can be at the top of the ticket. I would love to see Beto have to debate Trump. Trump will wipe the floor with him.
She'll also have to wait until she's 35
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As much as it pains me.... I agree
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not really related to the NGD but very interesting
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As dumb as she is, it scares the crap out of me how big her following is. She has a lot of supporters that love her to death. I think she helps the republicans every time her mouth opens and spews garage out.


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No question she is an idiot and unfortunately for the Republican party she will be gone as soon as her first term is up. Her dist. Will ( if they have not already ) regrette their decision to elect her.
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No question she is an idiot and unfortunately for the Republican party she will be gone as soon as her first term is up. Her dist. Will ( if they have not already ) regrette their decision to elect her.
She PO'd a lot of people and really showed her stupidity more than usual with the Amazon thing.
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So who will pay for these electric cars for those who are on a fixed income? Some elderly I know make less than 1400 a month.
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So who will pay for these electric cars for those who are on a fixed income? Some elderly I know make less than 1400 a month.
The magic gubment unicorn riding fairy.
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So who will pay for these electric cars for those who are on a fixed income? Some elderly I know make less than 1400 a month.
Lets get the electric cars first...and then worry about the financial part later.
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Lets get the electric cars first...and then worry about the financial part later.
I wanna know where they intend to get the electric from, other than from a socket!!!
I mean, if you do way with gas and coal, there's only so much you can get with wind and solar.
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I mean, if you do way with gas and coal, there's only so much you can get with wind and solar.
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I wanna know where they intend to get the electric from, other than from a socket!!!

I mean, if you do way with gas and coal, there's only so much you can get with wind and solar.
We need more nuke plants, plain and simple

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We do, but her plan excluded those. Think about that. The most efficient way to produce electricity was excluded
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and lets not forget "global warming"; well we all know that this is pure unadulterated B.S.!!
Actually no it's not. It's the greatest hoax ever pulled if so, one in which you have scientists from 95% of all countries on earth working together, just so they can lie to you and help support the Democratic party lmao. The science and evidence is overwhelming. You would have to stick your head in the sand, and ignore the obvious, like a liberal to believe otherwise. The only thing in question is, whether or not humans are causing it, which we are imo.


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The green new deal is a pipe dream that ONLY the American people would suffer under. There is not a nation anywhere on earth that would agree to such stupidity.
It's pure stupidity and it's that simple.
Actually there are several nations who have already adopted similar plans, and nations in the process. Greenland for one. As the caps are melting, more, and more virgin landscape is being exposed. Land that was formerly unreachable, is becoming available to drill, mine, etc.. They are at the crossroads of trading unspoiled nature, for pipelines, drilling sites, etc..

If some of you could disconnect GW, from Liberals, step out of your little construct, and look at what we are doing to nature, it might surprise you.
Had the liberals not picked it up, I would guess most hunters/sportsmen/outdoorsmen would be on the bandwagon.
Some say it's the government taking your freedoms, how about it's you destroying a natural world, that I've been in love with my whole life. At what point does someone step in and say hold on, your freedoms are costing me?
Did you know there is a carcinogenic chemical called c-8 used in Teflon? It is now in the blood of every living human on earth, including babies in the womb. I didn't ask for that.
When the toxicity of it became known, 3m decided to quit making it. It's in our waters as well, and is just as bad for fish and mammals. Dupont, just had the EPA release a statement for them saying, it's cool, no worries, and started making it out of country, under another name, still using it today.
Idiots wanna role coal because Merica. So we have a toxic gas, that we all know will kill you. Lock yourself in your garage if you don't believe me . Compound that by millions of other uneducated rednecks. Where do you think all that goes? Same place as the water from Noah's flood lol?
It contains 1000s of toxic byproducts. So you role coal because it's cool, meanwhile my son with asthma standing on the sidewalk causes you no concern. Yet we have another thread going where you better not lay a hand on my son because he acts like a ****, yet we're all for someone rolling coal and our kids breathing it. The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
So the people who should be championing the fight for nature and the outdoors, are the ones most opposed.
Instead of men who supposedly love the outdoors standing up for it, we have man bun snowflake liberals standing up for it.
Look at the rise in cancers and the correlation to our diet/environment. Notably the way we farm cattle.
Cow farts, it is a real concern. You can laugh, pretend to be ignorant, poke fun, etc...but greenhouse gasses from cows farting in the US, on and all grain diet, adds up to more Co2 than all combustible engines in the US combined.
But again, all that gas just follows Noah's water down that magic hole right?
Some of you are so uneducated(not dumb), and so biased about any liberal agenda, you can't see the real picture.
I hate em as much as the next guy, but I have to tip my hat to em, when it comes to protecting the environment. They are far out there sometimes, but I'm not going to knock the person who is at least trying.
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Cow farts, it is a real concern. You can laugh, pretend to be ignorant, poke fun, etc...but greenhouse gasses from cows farting in the US, on and all grain diet, adds up to more Co2 than all combustible engines in the US combined.
Soo, whats the plan for volcanoes?


Over the past 250 years, humans have added just one part of CO2 in 10,000 to the atmosphere. One volcanic cough can do this in a day.
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Global warming... is a hoax plain and simple.

Do manufacturing and other certain activities hurt the environment? Sure. I’m passionate about protecting the environment as much as we can just like MadHatter but, to say human activity in the last 150 years is the cause of global warming is an absurd theory and by no means fact, just a theory.

The Green New Deal... lets look at really what it is trying to do behind the mask of “going green and saving our planet”. The measures and actions that this GND would regulate and implement is a way of controlling the population. Electric cars, rails, no airplanes, etc is a way to keep people in place and not able to move and mobilize wherever they see fit to live or want to go, thus keeping you shackled to where you are and a prisoner of the system. Less cattle because of cow “farts” is a way for them to implement how you live and eat leading the way for ration cards and lining up in lines for food like Venezuela and Cuba, being dependent on the govt to take care of you to survive. Almost everything listed in the GND are laws and regulations already in place in countries such as Cuba (use that as an example because I was there for 2 months while in college), Used to appeal even more to the emotions and feelings to convince that socialism is good. The GND is a start in trying to get the country down a more socialist path to eventually try to turn it into full blown socialism, it’s another attempt at destroying the country from the inside cause that’s the only way to bring it down.
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Actually no it's not. It's the greatest hoax ever pulled if so, one in which you have scientists from 95% of all countries on earth working together, just so they can lie to you and help support the Democratic party lmao. The science and evidence is overwhelming. You would have to stick your head in the sand, and ignore the obvious, like a liberal to believe otherwise. The only thing in question is, whether or not humans are causing it, which we are imo.




Actually there are several nations who have already adopted similar plans, and nations in the process. Greenland for one. As the caps are melting, more, and more virgin landscape is being exposed. Land that was formerly unreachable, is becoming available to drill, mine, etc.. They are at the crossroads of trading unspoiled nature, for pipelines, drilling sites, etc..

If some of you could disconnect GW, from Liberals, step out of your little construct, and look at what we are doing to nature, it might surprise you.
Had the liberals not picked it up, I would guess most hunters/sportsmen/outdoorsmen would be on the bandwagon.
Some say it's the government taking your freedoms, how about it's you destroying a natural world, that I've been in love with my whole life. At what point does someone step in and say hold on, your freedoms are costing me?
Did you know there is a carcinogenic chemical called c-8 used in Teflon? It is now in the blood of every living human on earth, including babies in the womb. I didn't ask for that.
When the toxicity of it became known, 3m decided to quit making it. It's in our waters as well, and is just as bad for fish and mammals. Dupont, just had the EPA release a statement for them saying, it's cool, no worries, and started making it out of country, under another name, still using it today.
Idiots wanna role coal because Merica. So we have a toxic gas, that we all know will kill you. Lock yourself in your garage if you don't believe me . Compound that by millions of other uneducated rednecks. Where do you think all that goes? Same place as the water from Noah's flood lol?
It contains 1000s of toxic byproducts. So you role coal because it's cool, meanwhile my son with asthma standing on the sidewalk causes you no concern. Yet we have another thread going where you better not lay a hand on my son because he acts like a ****, yet we're all for someone rolling coal and our kids breathing it. The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
So the people who should be championing the fight for nature and the outdoors, are the ones most opposed.
Instead of men who supposedly love the outdoors standing up for it, we have man bun snowflake liberals standing up for it.
Look at the rise in cancers and the correlation to our diet/environment. Notably the way we farm cattle.
Cow farts, it is a real concern. You can laugh, pretend to be ignorant, poke fun, etc...but greenhouse gasses from cows farting in the US, on and all grain diet, adds up to more Co2 than all combustible engines in the US combined.
But again, all that gas just follows Noah's water down that magic hole right?
Some of you are so uneducated(not dumb), and so biased about any liberal agenda, you can't see the real picture.
I hate em as much as the next guy, but I have to tip my hat to em, when it comes to protecting the environment. They are far out there sometimes, but I'm not going to knock the person who is at least trying.
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Global Warming is real: https://www.google.com/amp/s/futuris...esponsible/amp


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Soo, whats the plan for volcanoes?


Over the past 250 years, humans have added just one part of CO2 in 10,000 to the atmosphere. One volcanic cough can do this in a day.
According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world's volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide.

This came from our own team, some of the most brilliant people in the world, not slanted stories like you drug up out of the guardian
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Global warming... is a hoax plain and simple.

Do manufacturing and other certain activities hurt the environment? Sure. Iím passionate about protecting the environment as much as we can just like MadHatter but, to say human activity in the last 150 years is the cause of global warming is an absurd theory and by no means fact, just a theory.

The Green New Deal... lets look at really what it is trying to do behind the mask of ďgoing green and saving our planetĒ. The measures and actions that this GND would regulate and implement is a way of controlling the population. Electric cars, rails, no airplanes, etc is a way to keep people in place and not able to move and mobilize wherever they see fit to live or want to go, thus keeping you shackled to where you are and a prisoner of the system. Less cattle because of cow ďfartsĒ is a way for them to implement how you live and eat leading the way for ration cards and lining up in lines for food like Venezuela and Cuba, being dependent on the govt to take care of you to survive. Almost everything listed in the GND are laws and regulations already in place in countries such as Cuba (use that as an example because I was there for 2 months while in college), Used to appeal even more to the emotions and feelings to convince that socialism is good. The GND is a start in trying to get the country down a more socialist path to eventually try to turn it into full blown socialism, itís another attempt at destroying the country from the inside cause thatís the only way to bring it down.
You sir totally missed the point and flew off into left field, just like a liberal. You also have very little understanding or knowledge of our current state. The food industry is running you straight down the socialist pipe so fast it's unbelievable and you and millions of others are totally missing it.
I don't give 2 sh$ts about a party, when it should be common sense. We have multitude of people trying to start a revolution in the food movement. From the way its grown, to the way its sourced, to the way its sold. Healthy ya know, as the rates of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and OBESITY go up. Vegan people, people who only eat whole food, people who tout organic etc.. What do you and your ilk do, make fun of em, and they most assuredly must be a liberal. Meanwhile, all you eat is processed foods, made by the man, put in a store for you to buy, at there price, when its available. You support this 100%. Its my right to drink a 1000oz coke if I want, meanwhile your fatazz is breaking the healthcare industry, supporting big pharma, and your standing over here preaching against it. Unbelievable. Today's food is much like doing meth, but because it's food, everyone draws this bold line and refuses to see the similarities and what's going on.
If I gave your kid a cigarette you would lose your mind, hand your kid a hot dog and no big deal, yet there they both are almost side by side in the FDAs list of known human carcinogens.
So in the end, your way is going to put you in a line waiting for food, or drugs because you and society as a whole have no way to get it without the man.

As far as electric cars etc.., do we just rape nature until it's gone and then say good luck kids? Or do you believe we'll magically never run out of fossil fuels? Tell me which way we should look? Or should we, for the first time in history, just quit? This is it folks, we've found it, no need to ever go anyfurther

Just so were clear, Global Warming is real 100%, the only debatable question is, is man causing it.
Your theory statement means nothing in scientific terms.
Gravity is a theory.
Just a tiny bit of reading from some uneducated liberals for you https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Y'all need to give up on this country though, and the whole being on the good side thing.
Republicans are every bit as ridiculous as the liberals, just a different side of the coin. Every argument that could be made for them can be made for y'all good or bad.
The 2 parties have grown so far apart, you've past the point of turning back. All common sense has been lost on both sides, to the point of simply fulfilling MY agenda. No one looks or reasons objectively anymore, simply subjectively.
One of the most profound statements I've ever heard came from Ben Carson in a speech he gave for something..
He was talking about the US as if it were a eagle. It has a right wing, and a left wing, and enable for the Eagle to soar, both wings must work together in unison.
Lemme know the next time working in unison with a liberal crosses your mind.
But like I said, could care less about party affiliation, these things should be common sense, something all men work towards as a whole, it shouldn't even be a political thing, but it is, and that's what is killing us.
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According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world's volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide.

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You sir totally missed the point and flew off into left field, just like a liberal. You also have very little understanding or knowledge of our current state. The food industry is running you straight down the socialist pipe so fast it's unbelievable and you and millions of others are totally missing it.
I don't give 2 sh$ts about a party, when it should be common sense. We have multitude of people trying to start a revolution in the food movement. From the way its grown, to the way its sourced, to the way its sold. Healthy ya know, as the rates of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and OBESITY go up. Vegan people, people who only eat whole food, people who tout organic etc.. What do you and your ilk do, make fun of em, and they most assuredly must be a liberal. Meanwhile, all you eat is processed foods, made by the man, put in a store for you to buy, at there price, when its available. You support this 100%. Its my right to drink a 1000oz coke if I want, meanwhile your fatazz is breaking the healthcare industry, supporting big pharma, and your standing over here preaching against it. Unbelievable. Today's food is much like doing meth, but because it's food, everyone draws this bold line and refuses to see the similarities and what's going on.
If I gave your kid a cigarette you would lose your mind, hand your kid a hot dog and no big deal, yet there they both are almost side by side in the FDAs list of known human carcinogens.
So in the end, your way is going to put you in a line waiting for food, or drugs because you and society as a whole have no way to get it without the man.

As far as electric cars etc.., do we just rape nature until it's gone and then say good luck kids? Or do you believe we'll magically never run out of fossil fuels? Tell me which way we should look? Or should we, for the first time in history, just quit? This is it folks, we've found it, no need to ever go anyfurther

Just so were clear, Global Warming is real 100%, the only debatable question is, is man causing it.
Your theory statement means nothing in scientific terms.
Gravity is a theory.
Just a tiny bit of reading from some uneducated liberals for you https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Y'all need to give up on this country though, and the whole being on the good side thing.
Republicans are every bit as ridiculous as the liberals, just a different side of the coin. Every argument that could be made for them can be made for y'all good or bad.
The 2 parties have grown so far apart, you've past the point of turning back. All common sense has been lost on both sides, to the point of simply fulfilling MY agenda. No one looks or reasons objectively anymore, simply subjectively.
One of the most profound statements I've ever heard came from Ben Carson in a speech he gave for something..
He was talking about the US as if it were a eagle. It has a right wing, and a left wing, and enable for the Eagle to soar, both wings must work together in unison.
Lemme know the next time working in unison with a liberal crosses your mind.
But like I said, could care less about party affiliation, these things should be common sense, something all men work towards as a whole, it shouldn't even be a political thing, but it is, and that's what is killing us.
So, what's your theory on the hundreds or thousands of heating and cooling cycles before the industrial revolution?
You make a good argument for pollution but not so much on the climate chang thing. There have been many multiple articles written about data being manipulated to show a result the climate alarmist want to see. There are thousands of scientist who dont believe any of the man made warming data. Since the climate has gone through huge cycles in the past many scientists believe it has more to do with sun spots....and that seems logical to me.
Humans pollute, America is better than most developed or developing countries on earth about cleaning up our pollution, preventing it.
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Just ordered a book, that sounds interesting, on this subject. Called Inconvenient Facts.
Some excerpts


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Just ordered a book, that sounds interesting, on this subject. Called Inconvenient Facts.
Some excerpts


A wise manís heart inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left.
Ecclesiastes 10:2
Right there in the last picture, they admit things are warming up. That's global warming. The term GW doesn't mean man made or anything of the sort, simply that the atmosphere is steadily getting warmer. Lots on here don't believe even that is real.
The earth's cycles weve known about for some time, that's rudimentary knowledge from 8th grade, and dinosaurs.
Are we the problem for the current state of things though?
How did scientists from virtually every country on earth start agreeing on this? The most plausible reason vs your argument, is, it had to be to help the Democratic party.
It makes no sense. This worldwide thing, backed by almost every country on earth, is hoax. Wow. We can't get 2 countries to agree on anything, but somehow, someone convinced almost every country on this. Talk about conspiracy theory.
Fly wise you say I make a good point toward pollution.
What is our contribution to GW if it's not pollution.
Were are destroying nature faster than it can fix itself, and even in today's age of instant information some refuse to see this.
We once had a great Republican, with immenseforesight, thought and vision. His name was Teddy Roosevelt.
Think about what if. What if he hadn't done what he did, and today's thought had of pervaded unchecked.
No Yellowstone, no Yosemite, on and on and on. None of that existed today, because drill baby drill was the mindset.
It could have happened, I'm glad it didn't.
Nature is something special, but it's true beauty is being lost by a new mindset, as we pull ever further away from it.
Then you look at how we already have a man made chemical in every human on earth, look at the MTS weve torn down, the things we dump in the water, etc. Multiplied by the billions worldwide, yet people believe weve have no impact.
It plain and simple, the wrong mindset, when looking into the future.
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Right there in the last picture, they admit things are warming up. That's global warming. The term GW doesn't mean man made or anything of the sort, simply that the atmosphere is steadily getting warmer. Lots on here don't believe even that is real.
The earth's cycles weve known about for some time, that's rudimentary knowledge from 8th grade, and dinosaurs.
Are we the problem for the current state of things though?
How did scientists from virtually every country on earth start agreeing on this? The most plausible reason vs your argument, is, it had to be to help the Democratic party.
It makes no sense. This worldwide thing, backed by almost every country on earth, is hoax. Wow. We can't get 2 countries to agree on anything, but somehow, someone convinced almost every country on this. Talk about conspiracy theory.
Fly wise you say I make a good point toward pollution.
What is our contribution to GW if it's not pollution.
Were are destroying nature faster than it can fix itself, and even in today's age of instant information some refuse to see this.
We once had a great Republican, with immenseforesight, thought and vision. His name was Teddy Roosevelt.
Think about what if. What if he hadn't done what he did, and today's thought had of pervaded unchecked.
No Yellowstone, no Yosemite, on and on and on. None of that existed today, because drill baby drill was the mindset.
It could have happened, I'm glad it didn't.
Nature is something special, but it's true beauty is being lost by a new mindset, as we pull ever further away from it.
Then you look at how we already have a man made chemical in every human on earth, look at the MTS weve torn down, the things we dump in the water, etc. Multiplied by the billions worldwide, yet people believe weve have no impact.
It plain and simple, the wrong mindset, when looking into the future.
What do you think about the Dems and the Global Community wanting to make Global Warming a tax/economic redistribution event? See when money becomes the motivating factor, all credibility is lost.
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Ok, let’s say that we actually are having a significant impact, if this is true, then recent articles suggesting less emissions results in more tropical storms/hurricanes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.6c7642d62a21). So as we do our best to reverse or slow global warming we should be telling the people of the tropics, “Too bad for you. If you don’t leave, you’ll probably die.”

And if we’re not causing it, is our technology and scientific understanding really great enough to combat it? Maybe I’m pessimistic but I doubt it.

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Right there in the last picture, they admit things are warming up. That's global warming. The term GW doesn't mean man made or anything of the sort, simply that the atmosphere is steadily getting warmer. Lots on here don't believe even that is real.
The earth's cycles weve known about for some time, that's rudimentary knowledge from 8th grade, and dinosaurs.
Are we the problem for the current state of things though?
How did scientists from virtually every country on earth start agreeing on this? The most plausible reason vs your argument, is, it had to be to help the Democratic party.
It makes no sense. This worldwide thing, backed by almost every country on earth, is hoax. Wow. We can't get 2 countries to agree on anything, but somehow, someone convinced almost every country on this. Talk about conspiracy theory.
Fly wise you say I make a good point toward pollution.
What is our contribution to GW if it's not pollution.
Were are destroying nature faster than it can fix itself, and even in today's age of instant information some refuse to see this.
We once had a great Republican, with immenseforesight, thought and vision. His name was Teddy Roosevelt.
Think about what if. What if he hadn't done what he did, and today's thought had of pervaded unchecked.
No Yellowstone, no Yosemite, on and on and on. None of that existed today, because drill baby drill was the mindset.
It could have happened, I'm glad it didn't.
Nature is something special, but it's true beauty is being lost by a new mindset, as we pull ever further away from it.
Then you look at how we already have a man made chemical in every human on earth, look at the MTS weve torn down, the things we dump in the water, etc. Multiplied by the billions worldwide, yet people believe weve have no impact.
It plain and simple, the wrong mindset, when looking into the future.
The point isnít whether this is some Dem conspiracy. The point is historical science data proves man isnít the cause. Spending billions of dollars to slow a natural process is just stupid, unless you are the one receiving the funds... ie the climate scientists who are pushing the agenda
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Cow farts, it is a real concern. You can laugh, pretend to be ignorant, poke fun, etc...but greenhouse gasses from cows farting in the US, on and all grain diet, adds up to more Co2 than all combustible engines in the US combined.
So it's US warming and not Global warming? CO2? What u gonna do about volcanos?

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I just farted am I going to be exterminated with the cows
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