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Old 01-25-2019, 12:41 PM   #1
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Default Air traffic controllers going to food banks!

LOL.. I swear the media is getting so stupid it feels like I'm dreaming.

What percent of idiots watching TV believe that air traffic controllers who make 125k per year have to take their families to homeless shelters for food after missing one paycheck?

Then I heard the media saying they had to get second jobs, like waiting tables, to make ends meet LOL

Would it even be possible to make that much money and blow every penny without having something to fall back on or pawn off?
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:44 PM   #2
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LOL.. I swear the media is getting so stupid it feels like I'm dreaming.

What percent of idiots watching TV believe that air traffic controllers who make 125k per year have to take their families to homeless shelters for food after missing one paycheck?

Then I heard the media saying they had to get second jobs, like waiting tables, to make ends meet LOL

Would it even be possible to make that much money and blow every penny without having something to fall back on or pawn off?
yes it would. I see it all the time.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:16 PM   #3
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Lots of controllers make way less than 125k
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:21 PM   #4
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Who are these air traffic controllers going to food bank? What are their names? Let us dig further into them for 5 seconds to show you why their REALLY in the situation their in
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:23 PM   #5
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Lots of controllers make way less than 125k
Not just that but 125k in DC is not the same as 125K in Jasper.
There are folks that make $200k per year and if they miss two paychecks they are screwed.
Too big of a mortgage.
2 kids at AWTY or Kincaid
Boat payment
2 luxury cars
Supporting in-laws
Law/Medical school tuition loans

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Old 01-25-2019, 01:25 PM   #6
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Who are these air traffic controllers going to food bank? What are their names? Let us dig further into them for 5 seconds to show you why their REALLY in the situation their in
Easy.
Becausethey didn't get their last paycheck as they expected.
I won't go to a food bank if I missed two paychecks but I won't say that my household won't notice.
I have the same amount of output but receive zero input?
Yeah, my checking account will notice.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:27 PM   #7
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Better them than illegals!
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:37 PM   #8
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125K while a good income, if it is a single income family that money will be gone fast if there is a mortgage, 2 car payments, insurance, taxes, and normal monthly bills. It would probably take 2-3 months disposable income to cover monthly fixed cost. This is why financial advisers always want 6 months wages in reserve. But I rarely see anyone with more than a couple months savings that is liquid. 95% probably in the same boat as those controllers.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:47 PM   #9
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Govt employees not getting paychecks... name ONE financial institute/bank that would not approve them of a loan in the amount of their paycheck with little to zero interest. Media like always trying to paint their narrative.
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Old 01-25-2019, 02:31 PM   #10
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What about the guys in the oil patch or coal, that get laid off because of the government?

You know like as a direct result of government regulation.

“We're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.” Said Hillary Clinton.
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Old 01-25-2019, 02:34 PM   #11
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LOL.. I swear the media is getting so stupid it feels like I'm dreaming.

What percent of idiots watching TV believe that air traffic controllers who make 125k per year have to take their families to homeless shelters for food after missing one paycheck?

Then I heard the media saying they had to get second jobs, like waiting tables, to make ends meet LOL

Would it even be possible to make that much money and blow every penny without having something to fall back on or pawn off?
Some airports are operated by private or contracted personal those companies are not being paid & employees are not paid scale. High traffic cities & what sector you work dictates your pay, I retired (after 26 years) from ATC Miami Center where aircraft take off & land every 45 seconds. Staring pay 12 years ago 70K to 180K
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Old 01-25-2019, 02:34 PM   #12
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I know a couple of air traffic controllers and they don’t make anywhere near 125k
But at the same time they are still paid enough to not have to resort to a food bank.
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Old 01-25-2019, 02:46 PM   #13
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LOL.. I swear the media is getting so stupid it feels like I'm dreaming.

What percent of idiots watching TV believe that air traffic controllers who make 125k per year have to take their families to homeless shelters for food after missing one paycheck?

Then I heard the media saying they had to get second jobs, like waiting tables, to make ends meet LOL

Would it even be possible to make that much money and blow every penny without having something to fall back on or pawn off?
While the average is right around the number you specified, trainees can be paid less than $20k a year, and entry level positions can be as low as 30-60K / yr. So it'll be the newer guys who have the most trouble.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:15 PM   #14
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I doubt there were more than a handful of the thousands around the country. Lots of folks live well beyond their means.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:25 PM   #15
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Not just that but 125k in DC is not the same as 125K in Jasper.
There are folks that make $200k per year and if they miss two paychecks they are screwed.
Too big of a mortgage.
2 kids at AWTY or Kincaid
Boat payment
2 luxury cars
Supporting in-laws
Law/Medical school tuition loans

And the list goes on
Thatís terrible money management. Nothing to do with where they live
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:04 AM   #16
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Not just that but 125k in DC is not the same as 125K in Jasper.
There are folks that make $200k per year and if they miss two paychecks they are screwed.
Too big of a mortgage.
2 kids at AWTY or Kincaid
Boat payment
2 luxury cars
Supporting in-laws
Law/Medical school tuition loans

And the list goes on
isn't this called living above your means?
but I guess they can always quit that sucky job and get one in the private sector where everything is cushy and for sure. and pays you what you're worth.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:05 AM   #17
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isn't this called living above your means?
but I guess they can always quit that sucky job and get one in the private sector where everything is cushy and for sure. and pays you what you're worth.
In other words it's their own fault for being stupid.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:08 PM   #18
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"Approximately 78% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck." That is horribly amazing but quite intriguing!!!
There are people $50k with more disposable income than many with $150k. That alone proves it is not the chosen career or job , it is truly a function of lifestyle (debt). Three interesting points from a macroeconomic position came from all of this for me: consumer debt is still way out of control over the last 25 years, if a majority of households cannot function without 30 days of pay we are seriously in jeopardy as a nation, and lastly Dave Ramsey will gain thousands of new listerners........which has to be a bright spot on this dark road we are on. Hard to internalize alot of this situation when our economy is considered the best in the last 10 or 12 years.....something is off kilter?


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Old 01-27-2019, 06:12 PM   #19
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Where are the "Should have planned ahead" folks? They sure showed up when the oilfield crashed.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:30 PM   #20
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Where are the "Should have planned ahead" folks? They sure showed up when the oilfield crashed.
LOL This and who doesn't have enough on a credit card to make it two weeks without pay?
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Old 01-27-2019, 08:23 PM   #21
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A lot of the junior faa types don't make anywhere close to 125. Young with families and one income and maybe not much available credit. There is a lot more of them in that situation than you think.
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:02 PM   #22
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"Approximately 78% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck." That is horribly amazing but quite intriguing!!!

I would be pretty surprised if nearly 8 out of 10 Americans, go to work so that they would even qualify to receive a pay check.



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Old 01-27-2019, 09:09 PM   #23
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I’m just a dumb ole fireman that makes a lot less than that and if we shut down tomorrow I’d be fine for a while. If you’re not smart enough to save a little money for rainy days I don’t know what to tell you.
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:09 PM   #24
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My experience comes from working many years for the agency. And continually dealing with the controllers and their very pampered ways and backed up by their union NATCA. Lets speak of a “racket” they work position for a total of 4 hours out of eight. The off position time is crew rest, computer games and generally lounging around it’s the “stress” of the job they so fearlessly defend. Very interesting generally not publicly discussed the education level of the controller. High School diploma and the average salary at my retirement was the $130K medium. Speak of toys then simply visit the ARTCC Center at DFW or the ARTCC And control towers view the parking lots you will quickly see High End vehicles Lamborghini’s, Mercedes, BMW’s high end fully decked out pickups.

Let me be very clear for I’m sure to be contradicted what a person who works and makes a living and receives money for their services this is their money to spend any way they see fit. For any controller to get on the National news and with NATCA chiming in only strengthens my confirmed believe basically they are nothing more than a bunch of over paid spoiled whinny children who can’t manage their finances.
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