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Old 03-14-2019, 08:44 AM   #51
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Worry about California. Everything I buy causes cancer in the state of California. Makes me wonder why it doesn’t in all the other states?
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:48 AM   #52
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Poor air quality isn’t about race, it pertains to living location. Living location pertains to income. YOUR income is YOUR responsibility. Make more money, breath better air. That has absolutely zero to do with race and 100% to do with effort.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:08 AM   #53
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There is only one way out - an inventory of emissions from all sources at all enterprises, to establish minimum-maximum permissible emission standards, to take heavy fines for exceeding emission standards and introducing new environmentally-friendly technologies.
California has invaded the TBH!!!
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:09 AM   #54
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Yep, they breath bad air, then make bad choices like who they elect.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:20 AM   #55
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There is such a thing as ďenvironmental justiceĒ, and there is a real scientifically based issue of poorer neighborhoods being exposed to higher pollution than ďrichĒ neighborhoods. Itís a real issue, based on air monitoring data. Itís not liberal vs conservative, itís science.

All that said, the article is complete horse****.
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I believe it. The whites are the ones with JOBS and therefore create more pollution while the minorities live in more polluted areas, by choosing, because they don't have JOBS and tend to live off of entitlements from the government. Get off your LAZY coola and get a JOB then you can move out of the slums where the pollution is worse.

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Keep in mind whitey did not move the pollution plant to the slums. The people drinking 40's moved to the polluted side of town where it's cheaper. That's about all one can afford when choosing to not work.

And maybe all that CO2/pollution grows better fruit
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:33 AM   #56
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Don't the people living in the low income neighborhoods have the same job opportunities as the people living in the better neighborhoods? Maybe the people that don't like living in the lower hoods should look at getting better jobs to move to a different area. Isn't that hard to figure out. It does take alittle try to better your own situation but some folks would rather just complain about it and blame someone else. Doesn't matter the color of the person it's a mindset and how people are raised.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts about it. It just so happens that there seems to have been a link between skin color and effort. Certain races were content to live in thatch huts while others were not. The current generation of young whites had better wake up and realize that they cannot live the rest of their lives based on the efforts of their parents and grandparents. The person putting forth the best effort will eventually have the best housing in the best location. "Poor" comes to those that invite poverty into their lives through their own actions and inactions. When you are poor, you get to live next door to scrap yard, rendering plant, packing house, lead smelter, etc.
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This speaks volumes about your character
it does? Well i feel it somewhat an improvement to have a general disdain for human society....as opposed to denying racism is a massive factor of many issues surrounding poverty, crime and death rate (in a state that not so long ago demanded slavery was maintained in its own constitution no less lol!) and believing all non-whites in poverty are merely lazy...I mean read a book for ****s sake, people do research on this stuff for a living.

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Old 03-14-2019, 01:47 PM   #58
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Way too many cows farting causing a lot of us to breathe polluted air around here
is that white folks cows ?? guess black / Hispanic folks cows don't fart !!
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:52 PM   #59
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Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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it does? Well i feel it somewhat an improvement to have a general disdain for human society....as opposed to denying racism is a massive factor of many issues surrounding poverty, crime and death rate (in a state that not so long ago demanded slavery was maintained in its own constitution no less lol!) and believing all non-whites in poverty are merely lazy...I mean read a book for ****s sake, people do research on this stuff for a living.
This is garbage. Is there racism? Sure. Does it cause poverty and crime rates to be elevated in minorities ? Absolutely not. The real culprit there is fatherless homes and the negative impact it has upon youths and into their subsequent adulthood. Itís not because of the man holding hem down.
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This is garbage. Is there racism? Sure. Does it cause poverty and crime rates to be elevated in minorities ? Absolutely not. The real culprit there is fatherless homes and the negative impact it has upon youths and into their subsequent adulthood. Itís not because of the man holding hem down.
lol so it is because they are lazy and have no fathers? got it lol.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:09 PM   #62
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lol so it is because they are lazy and have no fathers? got it lol.
You need to educate yourself and stop buying into the narratives.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:16 PM   #63
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lol so it is because they are lazy and have no fathers? got it lol.
Not getting into the overall discussion, but I like how you had to throw "lazy" in there where it didn't exist before.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:21 PM   #64
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lol so it is because they are lazy and have no fathers? got it lol.
What do your books tell you is the relationship between racism, poverty and crime? Enlighten us, you seem to be an expert at rolling eyes and disagreeing without stating why.
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You need to educate yourself and stop buying into the narratives.
so you're capable about making the jump from not having a father figure around causing potentially negative consequences and perpetuate a cycle, yet fail to see how racism can directly result in poverty, crime, living in undesirable locations, homelessness etc.
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What do your books tell you is the relationship between racism, poverty and crime? Enlighten us, you seem to be an expert at rolling eyes and disagreeing without stating why.
you want me to quote all books and peer-reviewed research on the subject do ya....okie dokie I shall get right on that for you!
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Not getting into the overall discussion, but I like how you had to throw "lazy" in there where it didn't exist before.
Because the sort of viewpoints on here fit in with the vernacular for people who think racism isnt a gigantic part of the issues now faced in society here. For example, believing that homeless people are simply lazy to get a job, or they all because jobless and homeless because they are alcoholics
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makes sense... but what are you reading usa today for?
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:33 PM   #69
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Because the sort of viewpoints on here fit in with the vernacular for people who think racism isnt a gigantic part of the issues now faced in society here. For example, believing that homeless people are simply lazy to get a job, or they all because jobless and homeless because they are alcoholics
No. It's a lot more simple than that. You put words into his mouth. He never said anything about laziness. You added it. Why?
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so I you're capable about making the jump from not having a father figure around causing potentially negative consequences and perpetuate a cycle, yet fail to see how racism can directly result in poverty, crime, living in undesirable locations, homelessness etc.
Never said anything about laziness. There is a ton of research supporting what I stated.
The fatherless home rate in the black community is nearly 60% now and over 30% in the Hispanic community.

There is a direct correlation between crime and poverty and there not being a father in the home.

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Old 03-14-2019, 04:00 PM   #71
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you want me to quote all books and peer-reviewed research on the subject do ya....okie dokie I shall get right on that for you!
If you can't articulate your position or summarize your source you are not swaying anyone. We are obviously not reading from the same book.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:15 PM   #73
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You know, lately I run out of air if I bend over for an extended time. I thought it was my gut, but now I know it's all them Mi-norities stealin my air.......
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:19 PM   #74
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There is only one way out - an inventory of emissions from all sources at all enterprises, to establish minimum-maximum permissible emission standards, to take heavy fines for exceeding emission standards and introducing new environmentally-friendly technologies.
Who this?
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:30 PM   #75
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This is print media click bait! Don't fall for it. It is meant to evoke a reaction.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:35 PM   #76
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Tie it all together to unite the victims...
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:03 PM   #77
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If you can't articulate your position or summarize your source you are not swaying anyone. We are obviously not reading from the same book.
Fantastic idea, I should somehow provide sources to reinforce my position...has anyone else here done this also to respond to the article in question??

In fact, if you compare my posts to others thus far on the thread, all you'll find are posts bashing the article without giving any reason why...any intelligent or thoughtful ideas in how they oppose it.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:29 PM   #78
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let me explain- i couldnt give a crap if the entire middle east suddenly disappears...and I dont care about the poor, I dont care about the rich....i care merely about my own family. But it doesnt mean Im going to throw simply logic out of the window.

Even driving around this state, are you seriously going to think that poor people are not living in ****ty polluted areas? And when you look at the percentage of poor people being non-white? Do you deal in facts at all or only when convenient for you?


I sure hope you never need help from anyone cause if you ever do with that attitude you are sh**** out of luck.

Saying things like that will always come back to bite you in the ***.
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There is only one way out - an inventory of emissions from all sources at all enterprises, to establish minimum-maximum permissible emission standards, to take heavy fines for exceeding emission standards and introducing new environmentally-friendly technologies.
na. we (everyone but Indians) should deem ourselves invaders and hop on a boat back to Europe or wherever we came from and take all of our modern contrivances with us. would that satisfy you?
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Guess they finally caught up to me. On weekends I get a kick out of parking my truck on the cornah in fifth ward with a cinder block on the gas pedal.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:01 PM   #81
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makes sense... but what are you reading usa today for?
Actually I try not to read or watch any news with all the negative these days, but the link was sent to me. After reading it, I figured I would share it and see who all had read it or seen it. Thanks for being concerned about what I read
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Actually I try not to read or watch any news with all the negative these days, but the link was sent to me. After reading it, I figured I would share it and see who all had read it or seen it. Thanks for being concerned about what I read
I get stuff on CNN and other fake news sites from friends all the time that I read. Important to know what’s out there. Thanks for sharing
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:16 PM   #83
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Google pollution racial disparity. Not fake news apparently.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:24 PM   #84
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Google pollution racial disparity. Not fake news apparently.
Google knew what I wanted after I typed in “pollution r”; they’re in on it.
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lol it was a joke and if youíre hurt by my lack of concern the big bad innanets are not gonna be kind.
I donít like the ďfairnessĒ spin, but if you think about the fundamentals, it kind of makes sense in the context Iím thinking of. With my travel and hobbies I probably have a big carbon footprint. I also have a lake house to get away from it all.
It wouldnít surprise me at all for affluence to be generally correlated with higher carbon footprint and lower pollution exposure... and itís not a secret that whites are generally more affluent in this country than blacks and Hispanics. So... ďit makes sense.Ē
Any talk of fairness is just sappy liberal crap, for which USA Today is well known.
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Has anyone written / covered any news stories on cow farts? Exactly, biased.
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I get stuff on CNN and other fake news sites from friends all the time that I read. Important to know whatís out there. Thanks for sharing

Thatís like saying itís important to eat Cheetos because they are on the shelf. Or why doesnít the same apply to heroin? Choosing what to feed your mind is one of the most important and sacred judgements we make on a daily basis.
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let me explain- i couldnt give a crap if the entire middle east suddenly disappears...and I dont care about the poor, I dont care about the rich....i care merely about my own family. But it doesnt mean Im going to throw simply logic out of the window.

Even driving around this state, are you seriously going to think that poor people are not living in ****ty polluted areas? And when you look at the percentage of poor people being non-white? Do you deal in facts at all or only when convenient for you?
I'm gonna assume you're trolling, because no one can be this naive.

This is a clear case of social evolution that will NEVER end so long has sociocultural development continues to progress.

Has ZERO to do with race and/or racism.
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Anything that feeds the victim mentality will be received with open arms. Itís how they control their low income base. Convince them everything is Somebody elseís fault taking responsibility away from them in their minds but never actually helping them do anything to change their situation. A whole generation basically gone to hell in a hand basket. Really sad how they have been brainwashed and used by the left.
I agree 1000% sir.
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A proposed set of legislative goals released by a pair of Democratic freshmen members of Congress mentions getting fewer emissions from “farting cows,” but they want to work with farmers, too. The Green New Deal was released on Feb. 7 by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) and aims to eliminate greenhouse gas emission while revamping the U.S. economy.
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I've been thinking and I have another idea to go along with stopping cows from farting. We should just cap the volcanoes with concrete while we put corks in cows butts.
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Thatís like saying itís important to eat Cheetos because they are on the shelf. Or why doesnít the same apply to heroin? Choosing what to feed your mind is one of the most important and sacred judgements we make on a daily basis.
Know thine enemy has nothing to do with eating Cheetos or shooting heroin. If a friend of mine gave me a needle filled with heroin, I wouldnít use it because Iím not a drug user; maybe I misunderstand your analogy. The more you know about something the easier it is to deal with. It doesnít mean I listen to CNN on the regular basis. Whatís so wrong with knowing your opponents tendencies? Itís like watching game game film on your rival team...
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The more you know about something the easier it is to deal with.
I don't think this is true as the blanket statement it is... and I don't necessarily think people who have different ideas than I do are my enemies.

What I do know is true is that the more time you spend filling your head with crap, the less time you have to fill it with good stuff. First grade math right there.
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Poor air quality isnít about race, it pertains to living location. Living location pertains to income. YOUR income is YOUR responsibility. Make more money, breath better air. That has absolutely zero to do with race and 100% to do with effort.
Yup X2
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I'm failing to see the shock and horror at the article? Even without the research...is it too much of a leap to conclude that non-whites live in more poverty stricken areas, in areas of less desirable housing (next to power plants etc) than whites?

Here's something anecdotal. Within the private security sector I escorted some independent environmentalists contracted to Exxon, Shell, Worley Parsons etc in southern Iraq. As part of their investigation they found that the rates of cancer diagnosis and deaths of local Iraqi Police, Military and local villagers had skyrocketed over the years since the invasion in 2003 (when US, UK and Australian firms proceeded to massively increase oil production).

So people who were wealthy- not living in the areas of the oilfields were not dying of cancer and crap, and the villagers living in mud huts and tin roofs/military/iraqi police based in the area were.

Not sure what is hard to believe about this?
What the article doesn’t mention is that those plants that pollute and are owned by white men also likely employ a significant number of the minorities that live near them, besides making the area more affordable to live in.

Shut the plants down to prevent pollution, put all those people out of work and they’ll have to move out of the places they live, hipsters will move in and drive prices through the roof, and that’s also the white man’s fault...
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Don't the people living in the low income neighborhoods have the same job opportunities as the people living in the better neighborhoods? Maybe the people that don't like living in the lower hoods should look at getting better jobs to move to a different area. Isn't that hard to figure out. It does take alittle try to better your own situation but some folks would rather just complain about it and blame someone else. Doesn't matter the color of the person it's a mindset and how people are raised.
No, improving your quality of life is considered bad too, as it increased the income gap between the rich and poor. There was a NYT article last year that complained as people made more money, they moved out of their crap hole neighborhoods, put their kids in better schools and sent them to college, etc.

This was somehow bad as it made more rich people which has to make more poor people, as we all know wealth canít be created.
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