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Old 12-20-2020, 10:12 AM   #1
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Mind is thinking about next year already. Have a spot about an acre that would only be able to mow. Is throw-and-grow seed for a food plot a waste of time and money or will it work? If so, any pics of successful plots youíve done the same way? What brand did you use? Thanks!


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Old 12-20-2020, 10:14 AM   #2
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Following I have a similar situation.
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Old 12-20-2020, 10:18 AM   #3
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I tried it once and nothing came up.
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Old 12-20-2020, 10:18 AM   #4
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Mind is thinking about next year already. Have a spot about an acre that would only be able to mow. Is throw-and-grow seed for a food plot a waste of time and money or will it work? If so, any pics of successful plots youíve done the same way? What brand did you use? Thanks!


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I never had any luck with that.
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Old 12-20-2020, 10:31 AM   #5
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IF enough of the seed makes sufficient contact with the ground and IF the birds/rats/mice don’t eat it all and IF you get enough rain and at the right time, there’s a chance. I’ve tried it twice and at least one of those 3 variables worked against me and nothing happened.
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Old 12-20-2020, 10:33 AM   #6
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Radishes come up almost automatically. Maybe I should just throw a bunch of that out. Are radish leaves palatable and beneficial for deer?


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Old 12-20-2020, 11:53 AM   #7
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It works. Having said that, youíll need to almost double the rate if seed and try to plant just before a rain.
Spray where you are going plant, could take 2-3 applications to get a good kill. After that just wait until there is strong chance for rain. Broadcast your seed of choice and then mow down what you have previously sprayed. Pray for rain


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Old 12-20-2020, 12:40 PM   #8
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Radishes come up almost automatically. Maybe I should just throw a bunch of that out. Are radish leaves palatable and beneficial for deer?


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Daikon radish is a good deer crop, but I usually mix it with wheat for the fall planting. The big leafy plant is daikon radish.
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Old 12-20-2020, 12:44 PM   #9
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Not as advertised.
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Old 12-20-2020, 12:48 PM   #10
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Only way I plant for most part. I mow a thatch and plant whatever I want. I donít limit to deer head on a bag gimmick seeds.
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Old 12-20-2020, 01:05 PM   #11
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It's cheaper to buy a bag of rye from TSC than from Throw-n-grow, lb for lb.
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Old 12-20-2020, 02:02 PM   #12
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It's cheaper to buy a bag of rye from TSC than from Throw-n-grow, lb for lb.

Always had luck with rye growing, just not with deer eating it.


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Old 12-20-2020, 02:09 PM   #13
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Rye sucks as a attraction. Yea they may eat it, and it has benefits other than attraction but don’t put too many eggs in that basket. If they want it..... it’s literally everywhere here anyway (like clover)

Oats and wheat are just as easy to grow and are much more preferred
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Old 12-20-2020, 03:27 PM   #14
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It works. Having said that, youíll need to almost double the rate if seed and try to plant just before a rain.
Spray where you are going plant, could take 2-3 applications to get a good kill. After that just wait until there is strong chance for rain. Broadcast your seed of choice and then mow down what you have previously sprayed. Pray for rain


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I have used Cereal grains such as oats, rye(not ryegrass) and winter wheat mixed in with brassicas and clover. I won't use the premixed stuff
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Old 12-20-2020, 04:04 PM   #15
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Oats and sugar beets is what I used this year. The oats they munch on all fall and then when it finally freezes they will absolutely destroy the sugar beets.


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Oats and sugar beets is what I used this year. The oats they munch on all fall and then when it finally freezes they will absolutely destroy the sugar beets.


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Let's see some pics of your plots! I've been considering this mix
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Old 12-20-2020, 06:10 PM   #17
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Most of the seeds in throw and grow is rye grass seed. Throw rye, oats and turnips. The oats and turnips will come up first and rye will come up later when the temp stays cool at nights.
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Old 12-20-2020, 06:24 PM   #18
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Which turnips are best for deer?


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Ones that wonít grow. lol

In all my years Iíve seen proof of 3-4 leaves bitten of every species there is
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Old 12-20-2020, 06:28 PM   #20
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I meant radishes. Which is best for deer?


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From all my planting, notes, monitoring, watching, cages ect. All brassicas suck. They are good soil builders and do offer some variety. But Iíve seen deer choice cedar limbs and Chinese privet over them
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Old 12-20-2020, 09:05 PM   #22
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I'll throw oats.......right before about 3 days of rain. It's hit and miss on the rain. Looks like a miss this year.
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Old 12-20-2020, 09:52 PM   #23
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I threw elbon rye and the crows ate all 80 lbs. in a week. None of it took.
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Old 12-20-2020, 10:11 PM   #24
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Oats or wheat, that stuff in bag is mostly rye grass, deer gotta be very hungry to eat it. Boils down to you gotta prepare the ground and plant what they like to eat. In our area, if we have a good acorn crop, food plots are good for a token nibble and late season feast.
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Old 12-21-2020, 10:19 AM   #25
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I usually plant Buck Forage Oats or some form of forage oats and that is what I had the best luck with. I planted wheat one time and I will never do that again because it kept growing in the spring / summer and left a massive root ball that was brutal to rototill under in the spring. Winter oats just fade away.
I would suggest that you would be better off spraying Roundup on the area, let it die off, mow it and whatever grows back roundup again. Then in the fall after some rain tear up the bare dirt what ever way you can and throw down the forage oats and and the drag something (a gate, chain link fence etc) over them to cover the oats and if you can do this right before a moderate rain, not a flood. The oats will come up and they just keep growing and the deer can't usually kill them out like peas if the deer eat the first two leaves that sprout on peas. Good luck.
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Let's see some pics of your plots! I've been considering this mix


I had small plots this year. Let me see if I can find some pics. They will be huge next year. I know that. They hit the food plots before anything else.


Edit: Donít have one of the sugar beets. Just these two. A mix of oats and all sort of other stuff. Used whitetail instituteís Pure Attraction and Beet and Greens. Was really impressed with the growth until the deer mowed it down and I realize I need BIG plots. And yes a calf got into one of the pens. Mowed it down quick.


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Old 12-21-2020, 03:27 PM   #27
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I think its mainly a gimmick. ALL the contributing factors have to come together for it to work: rain (and did it keep raining after it was planted), soil PH, did you plant it deep/shallow enough, did the birds eat it all, did you plant it at the right time, did you kill all the unwanted grass/weeds, etc, etc. I would spend your money on a different mix that would be more suited to your area, and best of luck to you. Do you have heavy machinery (tractor with a disc, etc)?
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Old 12-21-2020, 04:16 PM   #28
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Pretty tough sell on the throw and grow.

If I donít turn it over and drag it, my seed becomes dove and Turkey food in a hurry, especially wheat.

I have good luck with turnips and kale. Those little seeds might work decent on throw and grow if they contact bare dirt and get rained on.

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Old 12-21-2020, 04:24 PM   #29
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I've never tried specific throw and grow stuff but I have had good luck nuking the grass with glyphosate and then coming back a week later, spread oats and mow the grass down on top of the seed. Has worked great for me so far. As long as it rains it will come up.

Google "throw and mow food plot"
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Old 12-21-2020, 04:27 PM   #30
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what if you mixed the seed in with topsoil before laying it down? I've been considering doing a food plot but i don't have access to a tractor nor would a tractor have access to my area.
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Old 12-21-2020, 04:32 PM   #31
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I've had mixed results with it. I have a 36' + diameter feeder pen. I usually weedeat everything in it then rake it all out. I'll use the rake to break up the ground and throw seeds. I put a lot of seeds. Then I usually have 5 gal of water that I'll water a little in the pen. I try to do this when its 85ish with no 90s in the 10 day forecast. If it gets some rain shortly after, it usually has a nice green feeder pen of rye grass. I may try something else next year.

Anything that can be planted that cattle won't mow it down? The field im next to the rancher irrigates so I could plant there but his cattle will be in as well
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So, will oats come up now in the hill country or is it way too late?
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Old 12-21-2020, 04:45 PM   #33
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So, will oats come up now in the hill country or is it way too late?
It will come up, but it may take 2-3 weeks, then couple more to actually have a good stand
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Old 12-22-2020, 08:04 AM   #34
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This plot was waist high weeds back in July. I mowed it with my rotary cutter in early August. I sprayed around August 20th. I then broke up the thatch with my box blade and broadcast turnips, radish, oats and cereal rye. First picture is September 1st. I have 6 other plots similar to this one. The deer browsed on the cereal grains in October and November. They are now browsing down the brassicas and digging up the turnips and radishes.

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