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Old 03-26-2021, 11:23 AM   #1
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My brother and I are thinking about an alligator gar trip either in April or May. A couple questions:

1) Is mid April or mid-May usually better?
2) I see the new regs are that you have to report harvest within 24 hrs and no Bowfishing on the portion of the trinity between I10 in chambers county and the dam at Lake Ray Hubbard without a tag. Did I miss any new regs?
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Old 03-26-2021, 11:37 AM   #2
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May wanna ask Garguy
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My brother and I are thinking about an alligator gar trip either in April or May. A couple questions:

1) Is mid April or mid-May usually better?
2) I see the new regs are that you have to report harvest within 24 hrs and no Bowfishing on the portion of the trinity between I10 in chambers county and the dam at Lake Ray Hubbard without a tag. Did I miss any new regs?
Limit 1/day (within any 24 hr. period) and nothing over 48" without a special lottery drawn permit.
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Limit 1/day (within any 24 hr. period) and nothing over 48" without a special lottery drawn permit.



I wonder if that will apply on private water also? Im sure Steve will be around shortly to give us the skinny on the new guidelines for the Trinity basin.
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I wonder if that will apply on private water also? Im sure Steve will be around shortly to give us the skinny on the new guidelines for the Trinity basin.

Nope, only for that stretch of the Trinity River... Steve had a great thread last summer of a customer getting a biggun out of private water that was close to or over 8 foot...
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We have some whoppers on our place... been debating on trying to get me another biggun, but don't really have a place for another one... I'd have to be absolutely positive it was over 8 foot before I'd shoot another one... One I got a few years back is 7'7" and I'd a swore it was over 8 when I shot it... As big as it was, shrink gland went off on it by the time Chew's son helped me get it out on the bank and into the trailer!!
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Old 03-26-2021, 02:55 PM   #7
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We have some whoppers on our place... been debating on trying to get me another biggun, but don't really have a place for another one... I'd have to be absolutely positive it was over 8 foot before I'd shoot another one... One I got a few years back is 7'7" and I'd a swore it was over 8 when I shot it... As big as it was, shrink gland went off on it by the time Chew's son helped me get it out on the bank and into the trailer!!
Charlie, you could do a euro. Idk how expensive that would be but it would look cool.
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We have some whoppers on our place... been debating on trying to get me another biggun, but don't really have a place for another one... I'd have to be absolutely positive it was over 8 foot before I'd shoot another one... One I got a few years back is 7'7" and I'd a swore it was over 8 when I shot it... As big as it was, shrink gland went off on it by the time Chew's son helped me get it out on the bank and into the trailer!!
Yessir, yours definitely looked to be over 8!!!! My biggest is 7'4" and Steve has me on speed dial if one over 8 cruises into the private backwaters. I plan to let me kiddo shoot a few 48" and wait out a BIG GAL this summer!
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Yep question has been well answered. I do know where there may be a whopper in an old gravel pit. I'll keep you posted ,Oscar
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Yep question has been well answered. I do know where there may be a whopper in an old gravel pit. I'll keep you posted ,Oscar
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Yep question has been well answered. I do know where there may be a whopper in an old gravel pit. I'll keep you posted ,Oscar


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Old 03-26-2021, 04:55 PM   #12
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Limit 1/day (within any 24 hr. period) and nothing over 48" without a special lottery drawn permit.
So they use the words within a 24 hr period? I remember when the rule 1st came out people talked about shooting 2 in a night if the 2nd was after midnight.
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So they use the words within a 24 hr period? I remember when the rule 1st came out people talked about shooting 2 in a night if the 2nd was after midnight.


I donít know squat, but if the regs say 1 in a 24hr period, then shooting one at 11:00pm and another at 1 am would not be legal! That would be 2 in a 24hr period.

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Old 03-26-2021, 06:54 PM   #14
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Trinity River Alligator Gar Exceptions
From the I-30 bridge in Dallas downstream to the I-10 bridge in Chambers County, including Lake Livingston and the East Fork of the Trinity River upstream to the dam at Lake Ray Hubbard:

Only alligator gar less than 48 inches in length may be retained.
Daily bag limit = 1.
Between one half-hour after sunset and one half-hour before sunrise, no person may take or possess an alligator gar by means of lawful archery equipment or crossbow unless they possess a harvest authorization.
Certain areas may be temporarily closed to alligator gar fishing when optimum spawning conditions occur.
I don’t see anything about 24 hrs. I just see “daily bag limit.” Wouldn’t that mean you could shoot one at 11pm and one at 1am? Also, the way I read those regs (from TPWD’s website), can’t you bowfish that part of the trinity for alligator gar during the day?
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Old 03-26-2021, 06:55 PM   #15
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Also is mid April or mid May better?
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Old 03-26-2021, 06:57 PM   #16
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I think it means you can’t bowfish at night for gar over 48”.
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Old 03-26-2021, 07:07 PM   #17
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Also, anyone here bowfished Falcon Lake? Their generous limits have me thinking it might be a better choice.
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I've never fished Falcon, but know folks who have and it has some bigguns in it! So does Choke Canyon... That may be closer for you... so does Amistad, but not sure about regs on Amistad... I'd think they were similar or same as Falcon, but can't say for sure... When we had our deer lease out there just south of the dam, I always wanted to go bowfish it... I've seen some monster gar and carp come out of it from locals there in Del Rio... I've also shot some monster carp in the river below the dam...
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Old 03-26-2021, 07:46 PM   #19
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I donít see anything about 24 hrs. I just see ďdaily bag limit.Ē Wouldnít that mean you could shoot one at 11pm and one at 1am? Also, the way I read those regs (from TPWDís website), canít you bowfish that part of the trinity for alligator gar during the day?
They would have to be less than 4ft. No catch and release we with a bow either.
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Could be they backed off the one in 24 hours thing, but it was that way for a while... I'd recommend if you want to get a big gar, get it soon as CCA and the commission lifers would really like to ban bowfishing for gator gar... If you go back and read the minutes from Commission meetings from a few years ago, it got real close to passing...
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Old 03-26-2021, 08:57 PM   #21
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Could be they backed off the one in 24 hours thing, but it was that way for a while... I'd recommend if you want to get a big gar, get it soon as CCA and the commission lifers would really like to ban bowfishing for gator gar... If you go back and read the minutes from Commission meetings from a few years ago, it got real close to passing...
I remember. I sure wish they would make the commissioner back up any changes with scientific evidence. That way maybe they would stop tossing all their research findings in the garbage. Any idea if mid April would be any better than mid May or is it too soon to tell?
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Hotter the better for shooting with bow. I’ve caught them spawning in April and may.
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I always liked August, but if you're after a big one, earlier is better so you can get a big one before she spawns out... A 7 footer will lose 25-30 pounds during the spawn if you're interested in weight... Mine was spawned out , but the mount still turned out good as she still had her girth...
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Old 05-11-2021, 10:55 PM   #24
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Trip's coming up. Any tips for a couple newbies? Is it hard to get a biggun into the boat?
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Trip's coming up. Any tips for a couple newbies? Is it hard to get a biggun into the boat?
Where did you decide to go? It is extremely hard to boat a big gar. Get you a rubber coated dog tie out cable. The 15 ft is perfect. Cut it right in the middle and makes two gar hoops. Snap it around the gar at the gills and pull tight forward . It will catch in the gills and then two of you can drag her in.
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Old 05-12-2021, 03:12 PM   #26
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Where did you decide to go? It is extremely hard to boat a big gar. Get you a rubber coated dog tie out cable. The 15 ft is perfect. Cut it right in the middle and makes two gar hoops. Snap it around the gar at the gills and pull tight forward . It will catch in the gills and then two of you can drag her in.
We finally decided to try Falcon. I think I can picture what youíre suggesting but any actual pics in case the confidence in my visualization is misplaced?
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Are the creeks off of the Trinity river still Trinity River?
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We finally decided to try Falcon. I think I can picture what youíre suggesting but any actual pics in case the confidence in my visualization is misplaced?
Take a cooler with ice for the tilapia. I seen some big ones on that lake.
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We finally decided to try Falcon. I think I can picture what youíre suggesting but any actual pics in case the confidence in my visualization is misplaced?
https://www.chewy.com/frisco-tie-out...hoCangQAvD_BwE
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Take a cooler with ice for the tilapia. I seen some big ones on that lake.
Nice! Thatíll be a sweet bonus!

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Thanks, Oscar! Thatís what I was thinking.
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The 15 ft is perfect. Cut it right in the middle and makes two gar hoops.
So would it be easier to get two 7 footers?
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Man I still hope to get a huge gar one day. I had a great opportunity with Garguy on a trip once, but I blew the shot.
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So would it be easier to get two 7 footers?
Or one 7 would be cheaper too. I like the cable to have one end without snaps. That way I can unsnap it once in the boat and pull the slick end right out from under him. The snap end will hang up in his gills. This is a bigger deal when releasing rod and reel fish.
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