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Old 05-09-2021, 06:51 PM   #1
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Turkey trip to a buddyís family ranch in Schleicher county this weekend. He said they were not seeing many blackbuck and thought they lost quite a few to the freeze. We had seen a carcass here and there but drove around to an old work pen yesterday and found this up behind a wind break. Guess they tried to hunker down there and never got up.


Lots of cows lost too but the turkey and whitetail population is as strong as ever.


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Old 05-09-2021, 06:53 PM   #3
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Old 05-09-2021, 06:54 PM   #4
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Old 05-09-2021, 06:55 PM   #5
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There's a reason African animals don't do good in Texas.
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Old 05-09-2021, 06:56 PM   #6
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Old 05-09-2021, 07:03 PM   #7
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I donít know what killed those, but if that pic was taken recently, they certainly donít look decayed enough to be from the freeze!!!

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Old 05-09-2021, 07:15 PM   #8
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Are Black buck from Africa?
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Old 05-09-2021, 07:19 PM   #9
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Old 05-09-2021, 07:23 PM   #10
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I donít know what killed those, but if that pic was taken recently, they certainly donít look decayed enough to be from the freeze!!!

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Hmm, that was my first thought too. Pic was yesterday. They didnít really stink was the odd thing so I think they didnít die recently. This place has no yotes but we see buzzards everywhere. I can figure out why the carcasses are so intact and not ripped up more.

Cow carcasses out in the pasture were obviously picked clean.

This one was just around the corner



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Old 05-09-2021, 08:01 PM   #11
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I don't think that is winter kill from February

That was nearly 90 days ago

Guess it could be but would not be what I bet on
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native to India and Nepal
Yep, my bad. You are correct.
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Old 05-09-2021, 08:13 PM   #13
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That sucks. Sad to see


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Old 05-09-2021, 08:19 PM   #14
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Dang, that really sucks
Why just the bucks?
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Old 05-09-2021, 08:23 PM   #15
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Turkey trip to a buddyís family ranch in Schleicher county this weekend. He said they were not seeing many blackbuck and thought they lost quite a few to the freeze. We had seen a carcass here and there but drove around to an old work pen yesterday and found this up behind a wind break. Guess they tried to hunker down there and never got up.


Lots of cows lost too but the turkey and whitetail population is as strong as ever.


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They are smart trying to use that as a wind break..sad man.

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Old 05-09-2021, 08:29 PM   #16
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Yea I agree with everyone saying that’s not from the freeze. That’s looks more recent to me.
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Old 05-09-2021, 08:54 PM   #17
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I disagree, they likely are from the freeze. A dead animal that freezes and refreezes repeatedly get mummy-like and most scavengers won’t touch em after that. The hide also gets really tough and hard to pull off. I bet there’s nothing but bones under that hide and they just look fresh.

They also stressed to death so I’m sure that aided in the carcasses not being eaten.
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:09 PM   #18
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I disagree, they likely are from the freeze. A dead animal that freezes and refreezes repeatedly get mummy-like and most scavengers wonít touch em after that. The hide also gets really tough and hard to pull off. I bet thereís nothing but bones under that hide and they just look fresh.

They also stressed to death so Iím sure that aided in the carcasses not being eaten.
I agree with this.
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:25 PM   #19
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I disagree, they likely are from the freeze. A dead animal that freezes and refreezes repeatedly get mummy-like and most scavengers wonít touch em after that. The hide also gets really tough and hard to pull off. I bet thereís nothing but bones under that hide and they just look fresh.

They also stressed to death so Iím sure that aided in the carcasses not being eaten.
Freeze dried! Very likely
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:26 PM   #20
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I disagree, they likely are from the freeze. A dead animal that freezes and refreezes repeatedly get mummy-like and most scavengers wonít touch em after that. The hide also gets really tough and hard to pull off. I bet thereís nothing but bones under that hide and they just look fresh.

They also stressed to death so Iím sure that aided in the carcasses not being eaten.
Yep, and mostly bucks because the horns act like radiators. Same reason it killed so many axis bucks in velvet.
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:37 PM   #21
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There's a reason African animals don't do good in Texas.
They thrive here. A once in 2-3 decade ice storm isnít the norm.
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:41 PM   #22
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I disagree, they likely are from the freeze. A dead animal that freezes and refreezes repeatedly get mummy-like and most scavengers wonít touch em after that. The hide also gets really tough and hard to pull off. I bet thereís nothing but bones under that hide and they just look fresh.

They also stressed to death so Iím sure that aided in the carcasses not being eaten.
You are probably right
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:44 PM   #23
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I disagree, they likely are from the freeze. A dead animal that freezes and refreezes repeatedly get mummy-like and most scavengers wonít touch em after that. The hide also gets really tough and hard to pull off. I bet thereís nothing but bones under that hide and they just look fresh.

They also stressed to death so Iím sure that aided in the carcasses not being eaten.

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Old 05-09-2021, 10:29 PM   #24
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Well, I work on an exotic ranch, and we lost a bunch of critters in that freeze. Not a single one of them stayed preserved like that for all this time, so I just figured it couldnít have been from that far back.

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Old 05-10-2021, 03:09 AM   #25
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Old 05-10-2021, 05:03 AM   #26
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Sad deal for sure. What a loss.. Those aren't small bucks either..
Yes it is from the freeze.. This exact scene is being played out all over the hill country. 4 leg scavengers can only do so much and Buzzards migrate way south during the winter. Plus like stated above once they get so dry nothing will touch them anyway..
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Old 05-10-2021, 05:07 AM   #27
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Huh?? African animals thrive here.. So do the ones from India until a 500 year, biblical freeze hits.. People died too..
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Old 05-10-2021, 06:05 AM   #28
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Huh?? African animals thrive here.. So do the ones from India until a 500 year, biblical freeze hits.. People died too..
If that freeze would of went through India Texas would have the only black bucks left on planet earth!!

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Old 05-10-2021, 07:00 AM   #29
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Looks like disease or lightning to me. No way those animals would still be intact from February.

Or possibly poison?


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I would think if it was disease, the carcasses wouldn’t be so concentrated.
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Old 05-10-2021, 08:41 AM   #31
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There were about 25 cows that died on our place during the freeze in Red River County. They all look just like that.
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Old 05-10-2021, 09:28 AM   #32
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Freeze got'em.
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Old 05-10-2021, 09:52 AM   #33
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There's a reason African animals don't do good in Texas.

Lol. Theres a reason there's so many exotics in Texas....because they do exceptionally well here! Aside from once ever 50 year record freeze in which most did just fine.
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Old 05-10-2021, 09:57 AM   #34
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Wow! Thats a shame to see that.

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Man that is awful. Would make alot of nice euro mounts on the bright side.
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Old 05-10-2021, 10:27 AM   #36
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I think like the rest. I don't think those died 90+ days ago.

In this heat, the decay would be worse I think

I could be wrong
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Man that is awful. Would make alot of nice euro mounts on the bright side.
I'm hoping somebody will do something with them. We didn't have time this trip as we had to make a rush exit right after they were located.
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Old 05-10-2021, 10:58 AM   #38
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Old 05-10-2021, 11:10 AM   #39
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I'm going with the freeze got them.
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I'm going with the freeze got them.


What is your idea regarding the lack of decomposition over 90days?


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Old 05-10-2021, 11:21 AM   #41
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There is no question they died from the freeze. There was no poison; no flux capacitor cable nearby. It got cold--they froze--they died--then they really froze. :-)
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What is your idea regarding the lack of decomposition over 90days?
It's common in that country (Schleicher/Sutton/Edwards area) for animals to mummify like that and hang around for months (or longer). We seen this happen in summer, much less after a significant freeze event. There aren't enough big scavengers in those places to dispose of them quickly. Foxes and birds will pick some, but the carcasses just don't disappear or get drug off like they do in other areas. It's not uncommon for us to find a dead axis buck or two after the rut in the summer, and it takes forever for them to decompose, even in triple digit temps.
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Old 05-10-2021, 11:40 AM   #43
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I lost 14 blackbuck during the freeze and they all look just like that.
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It's common in that country (Schleicher/Sutton/Edwards area) for animals to mummify like that and hang around for months (or longer). We seen this happen in summer, much less after a significant freeze event. There aren't enough big scavengers in those places to dispose of them quickly. Foxes and birds will pick some, but the carcasses just don't disappear or get drug off like they do in other areas. It's not uncommon for us to find a dead axis buck or two after the rut in the summer, and it takes forever for them to decompose, even in triple digit temps.


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Old 05-10-2021, 11:55 AM   #45
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Why all the cows die? I'm thinking starvation got the animals. I only lost one calf due to being born in the middle of freeze.
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Why all the cows die? I'm thinking starvation got the animals. I only lost one calf due to being born in the middle of freeze.
This^^^. I didnít lose any cows or calves.
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:24 PM   #47
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how was the turkey hunting?
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:28 PM   #48
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how was the turkey hunting?

Saw turkeys every sit. Buddy got a nice Tom the first morning. I got busted by an absolute monster that snuck in on me day two. Trip got cut short by a family emergency.


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A shame to see. Iíd bet money they froze.


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This^^^. I didnít lose any cows or calves.
I didn't lose any cattle or llamas either (total of 16 head), our temps got as low as -8. I kept plenty of hay out and fed range cubes every day for a week. My stock tank froze over and I broke ice in it for a couple of days until I filled a few protein tubs with water instead.
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