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Old 05-10-2021, 01:17 PM   #651
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So yall are saying Tech doesnt get a top 8 seeding as of now?
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Old 05-10-2021, 01:17 PM   #652
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Old 05-10-2021, 01:26 PM   #653
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So yall are saying Tech doesnt get a top 8 seeding as of now?


Yes, I think they’ll need to win the conference tournament. Texas and TCU will be 1 and 2 on opposite sides of the bracket.


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Old 05-10-2021, 01:35 PM   #654
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Maybe, maybe not. They have 6 conference games left. They aren’t against the better teams in conference. Very possible to finish 6-0. With all of that said, I don’t think Tech deserves a Super. Too many injuries.
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It's a shame Tech got beat up so bad, a regional in Lubbock would be pretty wild!
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So yall are saying Tech doesnt get a top 8 seeding as of now?
My guess is they will, but I could be wrong. NCAA puts a fairly heavy emphasis on venue sites, attendance and support for the regionals. People have always come out and really supported the regional events in Lubbock. All about the dollar...
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Yeah I think if Tech finishes well and then wins 2 games in OKC, they'll probably be a top 8 national seed
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My guess is they will, but I could be wrong. NCAA puts a fairly heavy emphasis on venue sites, attendance and support for the regionals. People have always come out and really supported the regional events in Lubbock. All about the dollar...
Unless something has changed, the NCAA is limiting the capacity at each of the sites not matter what is the current rule. All the sites will have the same capacity as well.
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They'll host a regional. I doubt they get a Super unless they win the tourney.

I think the NCAA has maxed them out at 50%. Getting a Regional/Supers is more about not having to travel until you have to.
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:13 PM   #662
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Im thinking Tech will get a National seed if they can close out strong. Injuries really hurt them this year so that will be a nice achievement if they can make it happen. Tech, TCU and UT all have solid teams this year, ready for Regionals!
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One of the main things hurting Tx Tech would be that two other Texas teams are already hosting. NCAA would possibly bump them down to #9 to let someone else host for geographical/travel reasons.
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:46 PM   #664
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A no name university that has won a lot against other no name opponents. My hope is their lack of recognition gets Tech a regional host bid.
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:50 PM   #665
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Unless something has changed, the NCAA is limiting the capacity at each of the sites not matter what is the current rule. All the sites will have the same capacity as well.
This is correct. They have limited it to 50 percent. Speculation is that they would like to choose bigger venues so the numbers at 50 percent still look solid. This plays into Tech, TCU, Texas and most SEC teams over the likes of Fairfield.
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50% Capacity is gay as a ****ing parade.

I’m really sick of cowards...


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I’m really sick of cowards...


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Having to wear a mask outside when it’s 90* sucks too. All the stadiums we’ve been to this year require it some are more lax about it than others. Rice was by far the worst, the Louisiana schools could care less if you had it on or not.


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Old 05-12-2021, 08:41 AM   #668
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Having to wear a mask outside when it’s 90* sucks too. All the stadiums we’ve been to this year require it some are more lax about it than others. Rice was by far the worst, the Louisiana schools could care less if you had it on or not.


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92 days on a ventilator is pretty gay too
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92 days on a ventilator is pretty gay too
Thankfully the 2 are un-related.
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Texas or TCU will probably be faced with the difficult task of hosting a hot Tech team in a super if all 3 make it.

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HFD. Rice is the worst followed by Tulane. Just check the mayor of the city you are headed to and you will know in advance. Most of La is wide open. La Tech played at the Box last night and its open for business. La Tech is open and 100% and never heard anything about a mask- they do ask if you have one sometimes when entering the gate. Hosting the Conference USA tournament. They played great baseball until about 3 weeks ago. Now seems both defense and pitching is in a slump. Its baseball. Teams gotta get hot at the right time
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Old 05-12-2021, 04:13 PM   #672
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https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...d-of-64-51221/

Here’s an updated ‘projected field of 64’ NCAA baseball teams for the regional round.
TTech, UT, and TCU still projected to host regionals, plus Louisiana Tech!
Baylor and OK State projected to get into field of 64.

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Old 05-14-2021, 07:19 PM   #674
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Tech is only on soonersport.tv. No way I am giving 10.00 to Oklahoma to watch. Radio here I come.
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:54 PM   #676
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Hogs beat the Vols 6-5 game one in Knoxville after going down by 5 runs in the first.

Hogs are 13-3 in road games against teams currently in the top 25.
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Old 05-14-2021, 09:13 PM   #677
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Short.. tied for trip to reg..
Just don't have consistent pitching or a defense that can play the big games..
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Mid majors will host 1 just because thats the way it is and they have never hosted more than 1. They have announced the “20” and I think the winner of the Conference USA tournament will get the spot. S. Miss, Charolette, or La Tech.
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La Tech secured to C-USA West today. Lost the Friday opener to UTSA and then swept 3 straight. Run ruled today for the conference title. Play a couple mid week games next week then host the tournament.
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Tech trying to wrap up a series win with a mercy rule finish in Norman
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"Them boys some home run hittin fools"

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Ags had a disappointing series in Auburn, dropping 2-3 to a team they’re battling for the final SEC tourney spot. They gave up 5 unearned in the first two innings yesterday and couldn’t dig out of the hole. They’re in a virtual 3-way tie with Auburn and MO for the final spot, with both those teams having the tie breaker over the Ags based on series wins.


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Old 05-17-2021, 08:28 AM   #683
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Texas sitting idol, bumped up to the No.2 spot on D1. Tech up to 5 per D1. Looking better for a chance to Super considering TCU dropped 2 of 3 to La Monroe.


Texas closes out the season with Rice on Tuesday and WV this weekend.

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Tech scared me with their Friday performance, but came on strong with 15-2 & 13-2 wins on Sat & sunday respectively. 2 grand slams in the series.

Jace Jung has tied the most season homeruns by a Red Raider since 2004 with 18. But he did it in a COVID shortened 44 game season rather than a standard 66 game season, and has a 3 game series left to work in. He’s a beast! His brother was a phenomenal player, Lil Bro may be better at the plate, though maybe not as pristine in the field.
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Thought for sure we would take at least 2 from Auburn and give us a little breathing room going into the LSU series. Gonna be tough to get into the tournament now. If we dont get in will it cost Childress his job????
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Thought for sure we would take at least 2 from Auburn and give us a little breathing room going into the LSU series. Gonna be tough to get into the tournament now. If we dont get in will it cost Childress his job????
I thought after the Ole Miss series that maybe this team was hitting its stride and could even possibly make some noise in the tournament. This was a step back.

This team has had the components throughout the season, but hasn't been able to consistently put it all together. Saenz, Miller, Detmer and Childress have all had dominant stuff as starters at various points in the season, but each has also fallen apart at other times. The same could be said for the relief pitchers. Jozwiak has probably been the most consistent, and has been a workhorse. Walks (and hit batters) have been the downfall of this staff.

Offensively, this team has also shown flashes against good pitching. Frizzell is money. The rest of the lineup has looked great at times, but also lack consistency in timely production and situational hitting. Way too many strikeouts up and down the lineup.

It's hard to really judge how much is on Childress. He obviously doesn't trust most of his pitchers (outside of Joz and maybe Saenz). I think this has led to some quick hooks when maybe he should have let pitchers work out of their own jams. Similarly, outside of a few guys, he never really settled on a consistent lineup. Alejo, Frizzell, Hoener and Harrison (and maybe Bost) have been regulars, but he seemed to shuffle the rest of the lineup way too much to allow anybody to really get in a groove. A few guys would have hot streaks and then it seems like they disappeared from the lineup for weeks at a time. I think that also hurt them defensively. He has a lot of young players that I'm sure he wanted to get playing time but it hurt them at times both offensively and defensively (he also had several players playing somewhere other than their "natural" positions.)

Childress is in the final year of his contract, so it'll be interesting to see if he is brought back regardless of how they finish the season.
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Aggies need to kick Childress to the curb and go hire McConnell or Tadlock.
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Lol. Just "go hire" Tim Tadlock, huh.
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He's not as tied to Lubbock as you might think.
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Also, it was just a suggestion. No need to get panties in a wad.
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Aggies need to kick Childress to the curb and go hire McConnell or Tadlock.
Childress is done after this season. He knows it, the assistants know it, the players know it, the recruits know it....rebuild is coming. Heefner is a name being thrown around.
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Lol. Just "go hire" Tim Tadlock, huh.

Tadlock already said no to aggies
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Dude, he played for tech.....its his alma mater.
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Childress is done after this season. He knows it, the assistants know it, the players know it, the recruits know it....rebuild is coming. Heefner is a name being thrown around.
Heefner would be a good fit there. But, I bet TAMU tries to toss a little more money around first before going to Heefner.
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As long as they’ve “stuck it out” with Childress.....who knows.
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As long as they’ve “stuck it out” with Childress.....who knows.
Childress has done some good stuff with the program and is solid coach, but something is just missing right now. I think a change would be good for both he and the University. No reason that A&M shouldnt be able to compete year in/year out and be in Omaha on a regular basis.
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He's not as tied to Lubbock as you might think.
Interested to know what leads you to believe that?

I’m not saying he can’t be lured away from Tech, but I don’t think it would ever be college station that managed that.
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