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Old 02-17-2021, 08:15 PM   #51
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:35 PM   #52
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If you don't drive like a fool because you have 4wd... definitely. On the road today, I saw lots that had too much confidence because they had it. Only trucks i saw in the ditch were 4x.
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:59 PM   #53
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We would be completely stranded with a 2wd...4x4 is worth its weight in gold. No way we could get half the work done around here without it


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Old 02-17-2021, 09:13 PM   #54
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For sure it helps!
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:43 PM   #55
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I always drive in 2wd till 4wd is needed. If I’m 4x4 and get in a pinch then there is nothing left.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:53 PM   #56
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Yes it does it helps steering and a diesel helps even more with the extra weight in the front, but only on snow and ice.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:27 PM   #57
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Yes. Definitely helps especially getting going but it isnít magic in ice.
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Old 02-18-2021, 05:40 AM   #58
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I drive like I don't have any brakes on snow & ice, because you really don't. Downshift & apply brakes lightly to stop, needless to say don't be hauling butt to begin with.
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Old 02-18-2021, 06:22 AM   #59
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YES!!! I can drive anywhere I want to with street tires on my old Ď04 1ton dodge. Only issue is on clean road when turning. I can spin all the tires accelerating and it goes where I steer it. Thing to remember is start slowing down way earlier. Hitting the brakes just speeds you up lol. Use engine to slow down. I have 6speed manual so I just downshift.


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Old 02-18-2021, 06:54 AM   #60
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I have been driving my awd Grand Cherokee with no issues at all, my wife’s 2wd armada wouldn’t make it out of the driveway. No matter what you drive, just drive safe. I’ve pulled 12 to 15 stuck people out the past few days some 2wd some 4wd
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Old 02-18-2021, 06:57 AM   #61
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Absolutely, I'll never own another truck without 4x4. Have enjoyed pulling a few others out of situations. Even used 4 low to pull my live oak back straight after a storm.
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I drive like I don't have any brakes on snow & ice, because you really don't. Downshift & apply brakes lightly to stop, needless to say don't be hauling butt to begin with.


^^^^
This guy really gets it. Driving on ice and snow isn't the same as your Daily Daytona to work and back.
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:12 PM   #63
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First time driving on a ice road this bad this morning. Only 16 miles to work. If not for 4wd, I wouldnít have made it out of the driveway. I only slid once. Thank goodness no vehicles coming from opposite direction because I slide over in the other lane, but was able to move back to my lane fairly quickly.
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:43 PM   #64
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Old 02-18-2021, 10:00 PM   #65
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4x4 on ice is no better than 2 wheel drive unless you are chained up or have studded snow tires.
On top of that, being in a 4x4 gives a lot of people a false sense of security which then turns into driving too fast for the conditions, ultimately ending in a bad situation.


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Agree with most of this but 4wd is definitely better even on ice when your backend starts sliding around and not tracking with the front. Iíve experienced this many times in the mountains and engaging 4wd makes the vehicle track better.
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:19 AM   #66
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Quite possibly the dumbest question in TBH history. Lol.

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Old 02-19-2021, 05:47 AM   #67
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Quite possibly the dumbest question in TBH history. Lol.

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Old 02-19-2021, 09:40 AM   #68
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Quite possibly the dumbest question in TBH history. Lol.

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Old 02-19-2021, 10:26 AM   #69
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:33 AM   #70
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:54 AM   #71
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This whole ordeal have driven in the worst conditions round trip of about 100 miles several times in a front wheel drive VW passat with out the slightest trouble.
I have seen several 4x4's in the ditch, many cars and SUV's as well.
I think the key is having weight in the drive wheels like a front wheel drive car.
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:58 AM   #72
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This whole ordeal have driven in the worst conditions round trip of about 100 miles several times in a front wheel drive VW passat with out the slightest trouble.
I have seen several 4x4's in the ditch, many cars and SUV's as well.
I think the key is having weight in the drive wheels like a front wheel drive car.
Having your front wheels pulling the front end whichever way you steer is the key.
That's why front wheel drives do so good in these conditions.
I don't think a front a wheel drive has anymore weight on the front end than a 4x4 truck, could be wrong on that though.
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:59 AM   #73
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Well I'm sold.

Need to save up about $10K to get one with a trade in on what I have now, but will upgrade to 4WD in the future. And like many of you, going forward the vehicles I drive will have it.
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Old 02-19-2021, 11:00 AM   #74
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Having your front wheels pulling the front end whichever way you steer is the key.
That's why front wheel drives do so good in these conditions.
I don't think a front a wheel drive has anymore weight on the front end than a 4x4 truck, could be wrong on that though.


Thats true but it also does not have a light weight rear end trying to push.
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Old 02-19-2021, 11:35 AM   #75
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Great advice from all on driving around in these conditions.

I have a long wheel base 2WD Dodge 3/4 ton with a 5.9 and I have really had to learn where I can and can't drive it in normal wet conditions. It will literally get stuck on a cat ****. I do have a winch on my truck for those inconvenient situations when needed, which is very rare for the above mentioned reasons.

We got somewhere around 20 inches of the white stuff here and all of our vehicles are RWD so I was having a real come to Jesus meeting with myself on why I don't have a 4WD.

I simple don't need one until we get this stuff every 20 years.
I did happen to have a pair of snow chains that I found in my dads stuff after he died and without them I would still not be able to get out of my driveway to this day.

My wife is a specialized RN and my son and I are LEO so I've been shuttling us all to work.

I still would like to have a 4WD one day but I'll say this.......

Snow chains are AMAZING!!!
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Old 02-19-2021, 11:49 AM   #76
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Great advice from all on driving around in these conditions.

I have a long wheel base 2WD Dodge 3/4 ton with a 5.9 and I have really had to learn where I can and can't drive it in normal wet conditions. It will literally get stuck on a cat ****. I do have a winch on my truck for those inconvenient situations when needed, which is very rare for the above mentioned reasons.

We got somewhere around 20 inches of the white stuff here and all of our vehicles are RWD so I was having a real come to Jesus meeting with myself on why I don't have a 4WD.

I simple don't need one until we get this stuff every 20 years.
I did happen to have a pair of snow chains that I found in my dads stuff after he died and without them I would still not be able to get out of my driveway to this day.

My wife is a specialized RN and my son and I are LEO so I've been shuttling us all to work.

I still would like to have a 4WD one day but I'll say this.......

Snow chains are AMAZING!!!
Snow chains are great, even better on a 4x4. I had a 99 dodge 5.9 2wd that I actually stuck on wet clover nosed up to a gate I had pulled up to and realized I had forgotten the key Was my last 2wd truck and my FIL still loves telling the story about the time he had to pull me out of wet clover.
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Old 02-19-2021, 02:45 PM   #77
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Snow chains are great, even better on a 4x4. I had a 99 dodge 5.9 2wd that I actually stuck on wet clover nosed up to a gate I had pulled up to and realized I had forgotten the key Was my last 2wd truck and my FIL still loves telling the story about the time he had to pull me out of wet clover.

To funny....I feel ya though!!
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:47 PM   #79
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Lots of 2wd trucks that couldn't keep climbing icy hills around SM that ended up sliding off the road. I could basically idle by them in 4 high
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:52 PM   #80
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I've had and still drive a 4X4 everyday since 2007 and I've never had it in 4 wheel drive.
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:54 PM   #81
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Old 02-19-2021, 04:09 PM   #82
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I've been driving in it every day since Sunday to make it to the power plant in 4hi and i would say it makes a big difference. If it's ice, stopping is the tricky part but i've been using my engine brake and running in tow/haul mode and it's made a huge difference.
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Old 02-19-2021, 04:26 PM   #83
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If you know how to use it.
I agree with this statement. Learn how to use it, get out when it snows or ices over and learn the capabilities of your 4x4. They are not all created equal. I have a F250 FX4 and I have to drive it different than I do my TJ. The little jeep will perform well in the ice and snow if you drive it right. My F250 WILL NOT perform like the jeep will but will work in the ice and snow just not very well. It does not like mud, I swear it will get stuck in a car wash if there is mud on the floor. Go out when it is bad and test drive, just don't hit anyone. A parking lot is great if you don't get caught.
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:54 AM   #84
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I've had and still drive a 4X4 everyday since 2007 and I've never had it in 4 wheel drive.

If I had $5 for every time Iíve put my 2015 in 4x4 Iíd be able to pay cash for a new one lol.

But I use the 4 wheel drive a lot to keep from damaging roads anymore than I have too


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Old 02-20-2021, 11:35 AM   #85
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Nope. Not unless you have chains on your tires. Those saying Yes have never driven on ICE...snow is one thing, ICE is another and all 4wd does is add to the confusion as you're sliding all over the road.

Years of hunting in NM and CO taught us about tire chains. With a 4wd and chains you can actually drive, steer and stop on ice.

Can you walk on ice without slipping? Nope, not without spiked ice pads on your boots. Same thing with a vehicle.
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I for the life of me don’t know why they even make a 2wd truck or tractor... I have no use for either. Never seen anyone say, “ I’ve had enough of this 4wd, I’m going back to a 2wd
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Sure helps when you slide off into the ditch.
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Old 02-20-2021, 11:58 AM   #88
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You guys that say 4wd is no better than 2wd I just donít get it. Itís a game changer I pulled several cars and trucks up hills all week that couldnít make it. Never spun the tires one time! Rear end never slid sideways at all. Iím sure if you acted like a idiot you could get in trouble in a hurry though.
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I've had and still drive a 4X4 everyday since 2007 and I've never had it in 4 wheel drive.
You say that like it's something to be proud of.
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Old 02-20-2021, 12:50 PM   #90
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You're right, I should have put that in my post.
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Old 02-20-2021, 02:42 PM   #91
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Nope. Not unless you have chains on your tires. Those saying Yes have never driven on ICE...snow is one thing, ICE is another and all 4wd does is add to the confusion as you're sliding all over the road.



Years of hunting in NM and CO taught us about tire chains. With a 4wd and chains you can actually drive, steer and stop on ice.



Can you walk on ice without slipping? Nope, not without spiked ice pads on your boots. Same thing with a vehicle.
Ice and hills is a whole nuther issue. I learned real quick after moving to Wimberley that 4x4 can't conquer the icy hills.

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Old 02-20-2021, 02:43 PM   #92
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Lots of 2wd trucks that couldn't keep climbing icy hills around SM that ended up sliding off the road. I could basically idle by them in 4 high
You should have seen the 2 wheel drivers in Wimberley. Lol. Sliding backwards. Off In the ditch. Lol.

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Just drive slow and learn how to slow down to a near stop without using your brakes. Once you figure that out you will be good. 4wd helps tremendously, but take it slow. Drove a short wheel base for years and put a ton of miles driving on ice and snow in that truck. Had zero problems. Itís the people that panic and hit their brakes that cause the problems. Learn how to down shift to reduce speed and take it SLOW regardless of 4wd.
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Old 02-21-2021, 06:06 PM   #96
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Old 02-21-2021, 06:12 PM   #97
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You should have seen the 2 wheel drivers in Wimberley. Lol. Sliding backwards. Off In the ditch. Lol.

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Lawn chair and a cooler and you could've people watched like a boat ramp on old rr12 where they put a red light just up the hill from Sunny's

Lots of folks with no business being out causing problems lol
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There is some guy on a different site that insists that itís mandatory for trucks to travel in snow, I havenít had a problem driving around in snow and ice on the farm roads or interstate
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There is some guy on a different site that insists that itís mandatory for trucks to travel in snow, I havenít had a problem driving around in snow and ice on the farm roads or interstate
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He's probably referring to 18 wheelers.
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