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Old 01-10-2019, 10:58 PM   #1
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Hereís a really good question that hopefully some of you with experience can answer. With me being white I do realize that this could potentially put me in danger. Not saying Iíve made an agreement already. Right now Iím just hearing them out. I was contacted by a representative of a reservation about doing some work for them. This is something that wonít even be considered without knowing everything that I can possibly know up front.

Iíve heard stories of white guys being drug before the Indian council to make a show of things. And to teach them a lesson on Indian ways. One person said sometimes depending on circumstances you may not be so lucky to even get before a council. Now these stories had more to do with white hunters on a reservation. I sure donít want to the recipient of their violence and hatred just because Iím white. Right now Iím still just trying to learn what to expect with this work. So many unknowns.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:03 PM   #2
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I’ve been around a lot of rez’ here in Nevada....not once have I felt threatened. No idea where those stories come from.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:14 PM   #3
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Iíve been around a lot of rezí here in Nevada....not once have I felt threatened. No idea where those stories come from.
Old westerns. Itís crazy what those savages would do to the white man.

Just bring fire water, youíll be ok.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:23 PM   #4
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Practice Indian leg wrestling.
The loser will be given a vicious Indian burn, then be summarily scalped.
Bring some beads and elk teeth to trade, and make sure you eat anything they offer you, as well as smoking the old peace pipe when it comes around.
If you don't know what to say just say "shumani tatonka, owacheyalow. "
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:35 AM   #5
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Is there a question in this thread?
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:27 AM   #6
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What is your question and what kind of work?

I've never experienced or heard of what you stated
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:37 AM   #7
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Just take lots of firewater with you.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:47 AM   #8
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I think someone has been pulling your leg

I have 0 experience with reservations and I cant imagine there would be any trouble going work for them.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:55 AM   #9
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Keep your hands off their horses and squaws and you should be fine.

...... And is this reservation near McRib Texas?

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Old 01-11-2019, 05:18 AM   #10
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In New Mexico they have their own law enforcement and rules, if your hunting or working on a reservation you should educate yourself on their regulations. A friend of mine is Navajo and lives on a reservation he has told me some crazy stories about people that visit the res.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:29 AM   #11
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Ask them if they want to play Cowboys and Indians
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:51 AM   #12
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When I go the Indian reservation they take all my money every single time! Those dang slot machines never give it back!
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:52 AM   #13
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Just remember, its puff, puff pass on the peace pipe.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:01 AM   #14
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:07 AM   #15
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Don't offer scalps, you may end up with a squaw.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:44 AM   #16
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I had an uncle who owned a cabin on a Rez in the white mountains in Arizona back in the 80’s. There was an agreement in writing about him having it there. The res officials decided they wanted the cabin and took it. Appearantly there was nothing he could do since it was on res land. It was a really cool large A frame on a small mountain lake
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:09 AM   #17
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We were once hunting in Colorado and had to drive thru the rez to get to where we hunted. We had no issues until 2 of the guy's decided to hunt at a lower altitude and accidently left their truck and horse trailer parked on rez property without permission. They had to go before the council and explain about the muley they killed that wasn't on the rez. I wasn't with them but it got a little dicey but they never felt their life's were in danger.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:42 AM   #18
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Who are you looking to work for in the reservation? If the nation contacted you for your services then it is a no brainer to go do the work. I think your buddy has been watching too much Longmire.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:45 AM   #19
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I actually do a lot of work on reservations here in Texas. But then again I'm not white.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:57 AM   #20
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From what I've seen on ''Yellowstone'' they can be pretty shifty...
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:01 AM   #21
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You have nothing at all to worry about. I am white and have a German last name. My Great Grandmother was Native American. I spent some time on a reservation and never felt threatened. I’ve also been back as an adult. I’m not saying it was the most prosperous part of the area but you are worrying about nothing.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:06 AM   #22
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I worked on the res in North Dakota and hated every minute of it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:13 AM   #23
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Something smells Fishy...
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:16 AM   #24
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There is no way in hades I will EVER work on another "rez" job! We did a pipeline on the Navajo reservation in western N.M and it was crazy! We had to run ads on their local radio station advertising jobs for them, we had to hire a certain percentage (they wanted 100% but there wasn't 2% that were qualified), When I fired one for coming in snot slinging drunk we got sued for discrimination. On welding test day we had Navajos show up with miller cracker box welders in their truck show up asking where they could plug in their machine to take the welding test! It was the most insane job I've ever been on! We had to hire a Navajo attorney to represent us for me firing the drunk. You think that attorney was looking out for the company interests? Yea right, NOT!
Nope NEVER again!

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Hereís a really good question that hopefully some of you with experience can answer. With me being white I do realize that this could potentially put me in danger. Not saying Iíve made an agreement already. Right now Iím just hearing them out. I was contacted by a representative of a reservation about doing some work for them. This is something that wonít even be considered without knowing everything that I can possibly know up front.

Iíve heard stories of white guys being drug before the Indian council to make a show of things. And to teach them a lesson on Indian ways. One person said sometimes depending on circumstances you may not be so lucky to even get before a council. Now these stories had more to do with white hunters on a reservation. I sure donít want to the recipient of their violence and hatred just because Iím white. Right now Iím still just trying to learn what to expect with this work. So many unknowns.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:22 AM   #25
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They have better fireworks.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:24 AM   #26
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I feel like I'm stuck in an episode of Longmire.

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Old 01-11-2019, 08:28 AM   #27
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Iíve done construction on new casinos on reservations with no issue at all.


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Old 01-11-2019, 08:29 AM   #28
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All I know is when I was in ND, the guys told me it was ok to date Indian girls, but under no circumstances go on the Rez. Seems they don’t want any white blood contaminating their gene pool. We had several Indian “oilers” and all I saw were lazy as hell. The operators had to do their own greasing, undercarriage clean out, etc. but the Indians got paid for it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:38 AM   #29
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I spend a lot of time on the Navajo Nation and have never had a problem with the natives. I have become really good friends with some of the locals and consider them to be part of my family. The folks that I deal with are honest and extremely Patriotic.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:52 AM   #30
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Squaw is not PC guys, at least in Idaho.

When I was young, we caught a trash fish in Idaho rivers we called squawfish. I have been told recently they now answer to "chisel mouth pike minnow".
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:53 AM   #31
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I had a buddy working the oilfield in the reservation, he said he would always get stopped by the police for speeding etc. The officer issued the ticket and took the payment there, it was usually $20 or so he said. All they really wanted was the money.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:41 AM   #32
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I have experience with the Jicarilla Apaches in NM and have never had any issues with them.

Don't speed on the reservation, obey their laws and never, ever poach deer on their land.

Nice folks as far as my dealings with them went.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:06 AM   #33
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I had a buddy working the oilfield in the reservation, he said he would always get stopped by the police for speeding etc. The officer issued the ticket and took the payment there, it was usually $20 or so he said. All they really wanted was the money.
I got a speeding ticket in Arizona on a Rez, and didnít pay it
20 years later I got a notification from Texas that my DL was suspended till I appeared before the council , had to hire a attorney licensed by the nation
My offense was operating a motor vehicle at unsafe speed with a trailer, I was driving the posted speed limit, but the reservation has a different SL if you have a trailer
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:18 AM   #34
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Sounds like OP has a 50/50 shot of having a good experience
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:40 AM   #35
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I got a speeding ticket on a rez once.

I had the option of paying the ticket on the side of the road or going to tribal council.

Best $75 I ever spent.

Carry on
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Old 01-11-2019, 11:00 AM   #36
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Endeavor to persevere!
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:47 PM   #37
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Practice Indian leg wrestling.
The loser will be given a vicious Indian burn, then be summarily scalped.
Bring some beads and elk teeth to trade, and make sure you eat anything they offer you, as well as smoking the old peace pipe when it comes around.
If you don't know what to say just say "shumani tatonka, owacheyalow. "
Thank you Iíll start practicing. Iíll tell them Iíve been watching Walker Texas Ranger and that should help impress them.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:53 PM   #38
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Wow, this is turning into a good thread. I had no idea any of this stuff went on. Time to do some research.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:55 PM   #39
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I feel like I'm stuck in an episode of Longmire.

Yes, the answer is 9.

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Something smells Fishy...
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The plan is to buy Irish Springs soap to cover that.

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You have nothing at all to worry about. I am white and have a German last name. My Great Grandmother was Native American. I spent some time on a reservation and never felt threatened. Iíve also been back as an adult. Iím not saying it was the most prosperous part of the area but you are worrying about nothing.
Ok thanks. Just a lot of unknowns.

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Don't offer scalps, you may end up with a squaw.
That I sure donít want.

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Keep your hands off their horses and squaws and you should be fine.

...... And is this reservation near McRib Texas?
Itís too far away from McRib but closer to Canada. Not sure what the i dian version is called.

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What is your question and what kind of work?

I've never experienced or heard of what you stated
There had been some murders in past years but I donít know much about those details. They want help with land management. For obvious reasons I have to be a little vague on some things.

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Yeah I got sidetracked and shouldíve mentioned that.

Should there be concern about getting paid for services rendered?
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:08 PM   #40
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If you have any problems, tell them "your grandfather had high cheek bones like all the indians do".

It was good enough for Harvard to hire Elizabeth Warren. Should work on the rez.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:29 PM   #41
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I'm pretty sure they aren't gonna scalp you...
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:57 PM   #42
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I'm pretty sure they aren't gonna scalp you...
Well hold on a second, that would depend if Mongo is out of jail.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:04 PM   #43
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I don't see any good answers here. He should probably ask someone who's higher up on the totem pole.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:09 PM   #44
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For a legit answer- talk to a lawyer and ask if there is any way a contract can be legally binding between a US Citizen and a tribal entity.

If you think you won't get paid then don't do the job... I would be quite surprised if they would not pay you though.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:18 PM   #45
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I have had the pleasure to work with 7 different Indian Nations and all went very smoothly, but growing up in the middle of one gave me the advantage going in and knowing what was to be expected.

Make sure you have a binding contract on both sides and jurisdictions and make sure ahead of time exactly what is to be expected and make sure and document everything.

How I conducted myself on the very first contract is what landed the next 6.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:37 PM   #46
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You can kiss your top knot goodbye pilgrim.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:50 PM   #47
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I’m from NM and you won’t have any issues. Just be respectful. You could be on a res on not even know it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:08 PM   #48
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Worked in ND oilfield for a number of years, dealt with Sioux on ft.peck and the 3 tribes around New Town. The Rez is not a nice place to be if your not Native American. They will threaten to extort you over your tero. No tero no working legal on the Rez. It's like a different country. Even most of the tribal police have ankle monitors. Meth is king, first sign you see coming into ft.peck says Methahia, is everywhere. So good luck
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