tp@wd new trout law

[kevin nicholls]

I don't know what to think about the change. It doesn't affect me much but it does affect others. Trout fishing in East Matagorda took a hit, they aren't there like they used to be. It made me chase reds more in the back lakes. Lately I've been on some good trout like it was prefreeze. Spring and summer were tough, low numbers. The surf didn't seem to be affected like the bay was, I caught some good trout in the surf. I'm on the water a lot and I keep a log (for over 20 years). Fishing has changed for the worse in the last 45 years or so that I've been at it. I still think poachers do more bad than we can imagine, we need more inforcement and I don't like to say that. I hope smarter guys than me figure it out and fix it.

[Leemo]

Female trout aren’t 12-15 inches at one point in their life? You’d still be keeping females. I saw somewhere that 70% of female trout reach sexual maturity at 12” and begin spawning. If this is true, 17”-23” would actually protect all females for a couple spawning seasons it would seem. But I’m not a biologist.

Yes and no....sexual maturity just means an animal can start reproducing, doesn’t mean the mass does, the food/protein conversion of females is exponentially higher, therefore the females outgrow this length(12-15) very quickly, therefore not targeted. It’s simple , larger female equals more eggs

[Leemo]

Still baffled by why they didn't shut down the ICW. Would have saved untold numbers of fish.

Interstate and Intrastate Commerce...... millions of dollars a day go down that ditch

[Mule Skinner]

Female trout aren’t 12-15 inches at one point in their life? You’d still be keeping females. I saw somewhere that 70% of female trout reach sexual maturity at 12” and begin spawning. If this is true, 17”-23” would actually protect all females for a couple spawning seasons it would seem. But I’m not a biologist.

You are correct, Diamond, according to TPWD.

Pulled from an article:

Fecundity is basically the number of eggs that
a fish can produce. Trout eggs are about the
same size, so it goes to say that a larger fish can
produce a lot more eggs. Pretty simple concept.

However, when you throw in spawning
biomass, you get to see more of the picture. The
graph shows that around 60% of the spawning
biomass is below roughly 17 inch fish. So,
millions of fish below 17” vs. 100K fish over
that. It seems counterintuitive, but raising the
slot limit will allow the sheer numbers of fish to
spawn at least twice in their lifetime (right now
it’s about 1.2 times). In addition, having the slot
end at 23” will allow those big girls to pump out
the several million eggs per fish that they do.

So, this results in a larger spawning biomass,
AND a better fecundity level for some larger
fish.

And there’s your science for the week.

(Found on page 11, here. http://www.islandmoon.com/assets/926.pdf)

[Mexico]

Knee jerk reaction from TPW.... they'll do what they want. Your opinion doesn't matter.

[DUKFVR]

Knee jerk reaction from TPW.... they'll do what they want. Your opinion doesn't matter.

THIS!!

[Leemo]

You are correct, Diamond, according to TPWD.

Pulled from an article:

Fecundity is basically the number of eggs that
a fish can produce. Trout eggs are about the
same size, so it goes to say that a larger fish can
produce a lot more eggs. Pretty simple concept.

However, when you throw in spawning
biomass, you get to see more of the picture. The
graph shows that around 60% of the spawning
biomass is below roughly 17 inch fish. So,
millions of fish below 17” vs. 100K fish over
that. It seems counterintuitive, but raising the
slot limit will allow the sheer numbers of fish to
spawn at least twice in their lifetime (right now
it’s about 1.2 times). In addition, having the slot
end at 23” will allow those big girls to pump out
the several million eggs per fish that they do.

So, this results in a larger spawning biomass,
AND a better fecundity level for some larger
fish.

And there’s your science for the week.

(Found on page 11, here. http://www.islandmoon.com/assets/926.pdf)

That info is about as accurate as a Biden’s speech......and about as accurate as the CDC
TPW used info from Georgia to push their move on Flounder regs, go figure

[AgHntr10]

More reason to keep driving to Hackberry.

[redfishted]

More reason to keep driving to Hackberry.

There are no big deer in east Texas or fish in Calcasieu.

[M16]

I was watching Lone Star Law the other night. Illegal aliens with no fishing license. Illegal cast net with game fish. Undersize and maybe some other violations. Get one ticket. I'm surprised it wasn't a warning. I'm sure they'll abide by the new trout limits.

Catch and release for US citizens is right around the corner.

[OldRiverRat]

What a bunch if ****
First fish you catch regardless of size
That’s how you save fish
Trying to sift fish kills way more
How tpw can’t figure this out I’ll never understand

One thing is for sure 3 fish limit will likely cause a lot of folks to think twice about a $75k rig

But I guess you can always find a good school of hard heads to pass time


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[jds247]

Might as well make all fishing catch and release..

[ultrastealth]

Overreaction by TP&W spurred on by a bunch of elitists. Same way we got the five fish limit.

[Ætheling]

tp@wd new trout law

Hurricanes, freezes, pollution, eco system destruction and bacterial tides. Too many people now on the resource for it to recover properly from these events. Im in favor but definitely feel for those that guide for a living. Now appoint aTPWD dedicated judge, a dedicated State Attorney and enforce the hell out of the Galveston and Matagorda bay complexes. Poaching there is at unacceptable levels imo.


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[AmmannsvilleGUY]

I just hope that if the implement something like that then they need to take a hard look at not having it last forever. TP&W is known for taking away limits and never giving them back.

I read somewhere that the TP&W team that takes the survey from you at the boat ramps said something like on average there is just over 1 trout caught per boat that is caught on average. I need to find the article I read on this data and post it. It does make me wonder why there are limits at all.

It will be hard to pay a guide $650 plus tip, or even hook up the boat to the truck and make a trip for three trout from 17 to 23 inches.

I do feel like the floods from the hurricanes and over oystering is not helping the habitat.