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Old 05-04-2021, 03:04 PM   #1
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I’ve got a 65HP John Deere 5065E tractor. I just bought a Ford F-250 Super Duty truck 4WD to have a way to trailer my tractor short distances (25 miles max). I am considering a gooseneck or bumper pull trailer but don’t know advantages / disadvantages of each and have no idea where to get a gooseneck hitch installed in my truck bed or even what to ask for. I originally had a 2WD Suburban and a 20’ bumper pull trailer with tandem 7K lb axles and electric brakes but it was a scary adventure to pull my tractor. I sold that trailer in frustration until I could upgrade to this truck- hence I’m considering the gooseneck. I’m hoping with the larger truck and more power to have a better experience. What do you guys with more experience on this recommend at this point?? Would a car hauler bumper pull work? Would a gooseneck trailer be a safer alternative? I would really like to be able to leave front end loader and bush hog implement on trailer (27’ total length unless bucket raised) when towing it.

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Old 05-04-2021, 03:15 PM   #2
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I pull roughly the same size tractor around with the same size trailer you sold and a half ton truck. I have a gooseneck trailer and hitch in my Tundra, but rarely use it. The tractor probably weights 5-6k#s. I would think with the 250 and the 20’ you had would have been a much more enjoyable experience than pulling it with your Suburban. Trailers are priced super high and hard to find now too. I’ve been shopping for a new one.
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:21 PM   #3
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Iíve got a 65HP John Deere 5065E tractor. I just bought a Ford F-250 Super Duty truck 4WD to have a way to trailer my tractor short distances (25 miles max). I am considering a gooseneck or bumper pull trailer but donít know advantages / disadvantages of each and have no idea where to get a gooseneck hitch installed in my truck bed or even what to ask for. I originally had a 2WD Suburban and a 20í bumper pull trailer with tandem 7K lb axles and electric brakes but it was a scary adventure to pull my tractor. I sold that trailer in frustration until I could upgrade to this truck- hence Iím considering the gooseneck. Iím hoping with the larger truck and more power to have a better experience. What do you guys with more experience on this recommend at this point?? Would a car hauler bumper pull work? Would a gooseneck trailer be a safer alternative? I would really like to be able to leave front end loader and bush hog implement on trailer (27í length) when towing it.


I run a 75hp with a 15í batwing
Go gooseneck
Thatís 10-15,000lbs depending on exactly what you are running (cab or open station) and which batwing
My combo is around 14,000lbs
You have more than enough truck



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Old 05-04-2021, 03:22 PM   #4
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I like to pull gooseneck trailers more than bumper pulls because I find them easier to maneuver. I have a 5085M that I pull occasionally with a bumper pull (18' ranch king) and it does fine although I do use a 1 ton truck to pull it. The issue I have with that trailer is it isn't long enough for the tractor with loader and an implement. I previously had a 22' gooseneck and that was nice because I would set the loader on top of the gooseneck portion for travel and had space to haul an implement attached to the tractor.
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:23 PM   #5
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I pull roughly the same size tractor around with the same size trailer you sold and a half ton truck. I have a gooseneck trailer and hitch in my Tundra, but rarely use it. The tractor probably weights 5-6k#s. I would think with the 250 and the 20í you had would have been a much more enjoyable experience than pulling it with your Suburban. Trailers are priced super high and hard to find now too. Iíve been shopping for a new one.
Thanks! Are you using the Tundra with gooseneck to haul your tractor now? If so, who installed your gooseneck hitch and do you know the specs on it?
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:30 PM   #6
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Spend the money on a gooseneck now is my opinion, they pull so much better and “When” you need the added room after you add a few attachments to the mix you can haul it all at once. Bumper pulls are fine but you limit yourself on what you can do with them later down the line. Leave yourself a little growing room and carrying capacity. You bought the big truck so why pull a wimpy trailer
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:34 PM   #7
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Get a 24' goose neck !
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:35 PM   #8
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I like to pull gooseneck trailers more than bumper pulls because I find them easier to maneuver. I have a 5085M that I pull occasionally with a bumper pull (18' ranch king) and it does fine although I do use a 1 ton truck to pull it. The issue I have with that trailer is it isn't long enough for the tractor with loader and an implement. I previously had a 22' gooseneck and that was nice because I would set the loader on top of the gooseneck portion for travel and had space to haul an implement attached to the tractor.
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:36 PM   #9
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I would get a 28' gooseneck triple axle lowboy with drive over finders.
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:41 PM   #10
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Ok showing my ignorance but what are “drive over finders”? I’m guessing it’s to make hitch-up easier. Where do you buy gooseneck hitches and get them installed, including options like these?

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Old 05-04-2021, 03:51 PM   #11
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:54 PM   #12
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Or a low deck flat top gooseneck, but they are still pretty high if you aren't used to loading equipment on trailers.
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:08 PM   #13
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Gooseneck hitches can be bought and installed at about any truck accessory place. I think the b&w turnover ball hitch is still about the best hitch to get. If you go to their website you should be able to find a list of dealers near you. I would also go gooseneck over bumper pull in your scenario but I prefer gooseneck trailers.
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:45 PM   #14
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Gooseneck low boy would do you fine.
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:53 PM   #15
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Thought of something else. Which trailer can depend on your wheel setup on your tractor. I have moved mine to the second widest stance, and mine might require a little wider trailer now. I also have a 65HP John Deere and much more stable with the wider stance...
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Old 05-04-2021, 06:40 PM   #16
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Old 05-04-2021, 06:45 PM   #17
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I’d get a low profile gooseneck. I hate drive over fenders when you need to haul something other than a vehicle. I’d look at 25-28’ tandem.
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Old 05-04-2021, 06:46 PM   #18
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Lots depends on what you want to spend. Gooseneck will handle the load better in my opinion. Always get longer than you think you need. Go ahead and get the widest trailer allowed by law. JMO

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Old 05-04-2021, 07:01 PM   #19
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Iíd get a low profile gooseneck. I hate drive over fenders when you need to haul something other than a vehicle. Iíd look at 25-28í tandem.
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:04 PM   #20
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The greatest downside to a gooseneck is the room it takes to turn into a tight place. Where the bumper pull will “follow” your truck to a great extent, the gooseneck will “cut across”, which might make it harder to turn into a driveway or entrance. Conversely, the goose neck will back into a tight place easier because it’s not tied to the very back of your vehicle. If you pull with a pickup, you have to watch for tailgate or bed damage if you get in rough or uneven terrain.

I have both, and I move my tractor on my 20’ bumper pull, my backhoe on my 24’ dovetail gooseneck. I pull both with an F350 with a flat bed.
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:11 PM   #21
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Drive over fenders are ok but IMO they suck lol I have 9 goosenecks and I’ve tried a couple drive over fenders but if you ever wanted to haul anything requiring the full deck your shafted, loading rock, sod or anything that needs to be over the axles for weight distribution and your out of luck. I buy trailers for the unknowns not the knowns, never know when you will need to use that high dollar puppy for something you didn’t intend. Mine are all lowboy flatbeds now with Monster Ramps and hydraulic jacks, I’m over manually jacking any trailer these days.. Most of mine are 32’ but 28’ is the best all around size IMO.
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:36 PM   #22
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Google B&W gooseneck hitch and search for a dealer they have what u need. Keep the insert greased good and u have a bed with no ball when needed.

Gooseneck trailer with a dovetail and dual axles to hold 15 to 20k because you rarely need a smaller trailer.

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Old 05-04-2021, 09:42 PM   #23
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Google B&W gooseneck hitch and search for a dealer they have what u need. Keep the insert greased good and u have a bed with no ball when needed.

Gooseneck trailer with a dovetail and dual axles to hold 15 to 20k because you rarely need a smaller trailer.

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Old 05-04-2021, 09:51 PM   #24
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A gooseneck may cut down on the number of people always wanting to borrow your trailer too.
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Old 05-04-2021, 10:27 PM   #25
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23 replies and no mention of needing a CDL-
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Old 05-04-2021, 10:36 PM   #26
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Gooseneck is the way to go with that setup. Youíve gotten really good advice already.

If you want to put off the gooseneck for the time being, get a weight distributing hitch for your bumper pull and try that. Every pound you put on the hitch with a pumper pull takes weight off of your front truck tires. That makes for a different drive, and thatís not a small tractor. A weight distributing hitch will take some weight off the rear of your truck, and put it on the trailer, adding some weight back to your front truck tires. May be a compromise until you can find the GN you want.


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Old 05-04-2021, 10:40 PM   #27
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Get yourself set up with a gooseneck and you will thank yourself later! Overall easier to pull and manuever after you get used to them. Get at least a 24'. Trailers are a bit like tractors in that you always want to have more than you need rather than less to get the job done! As stated, any truck accessory place will have you set up with the hitch in no time. Good luck with your project!
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:33 PM   #28
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Or a low deck flat top gooseneck, but they are still pretty high if you aren't used to loading equipment on trailers.
There is definitely a pucker factor the first few times, especially when a dozer makes that tilt.


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Old 05-04-2021, 11:52 PM   #29
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Why would he need a cdl?

Depending on the GVWR of the truck, and the GVWR of the trailer he buys, he may very well be in that range. If the 2 added together total 26,000, technically he does.

Nobody likes to talk about it because we mentioned that to a snowflake here a few months ago and he got butthurt.

They keep raising the GVWR on these trucks to up the tow rating, and with some trailers, it puts you in that range.


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Old 05-05-2021, 12:47 AM   #30
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Gooseneck for sure and you don’t need a CDL if it’s farm registered and will only be used to transport your farm equipment not for profit and within 150 miles of registered location.

OP, I have a 28’ + 5 dual tandem and love it to death and no CDL. It is farm registered.
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Gooseneck for sure and you donít need a CDL if itís farm registered and will only be used to transport your farm equipment not for profit and within 150 miles of registered location.

OP, I have a 28í + 5 dual tandem and love it to death and no CDL. It is farm registered.
Farm tags gets you out inspection too.
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Old 05-05-2021, 10:03 AM   #32
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Your 20í bumper-pull wouldíve worked fine, but since youíre starting fresh, Iíd definitely go with a gooseneck. Iím personally not a fan of the drive over fenders. It always seems they are always in the way and there isnít a good spot to strap/chain things down if you have something in the middle. If I was you, Iíd probably look for a 22-24í+5í dovetail with Monster/Mega ramps that will fold flat.

If you donít have your CDL, you will have to keep your gcwr under 26,000 lbs. Your F-250 probably has a 10,000 lb gvwr, so you can go up to 16,000 on your trailer, but most stick to 14,000 so it can be pulled with a 1 ton pickup if needed and still stay under. You can either stay with 7000lb tandem axles or you can you higher and just have the trailer derated on the registration to stay out of CDL territory.
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Old 05-05-2021, 10:08 AM   #33
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because it won't be required with the rigs mentioned
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Old 05-05-2021, 10:09 AM   #34
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Lots depends on what you want to spend. Gooseneck will handle the load better in my opinion. Always get longer than you think you need. Go ahead and get the widest trailer allowed by law. JMO
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for a 27' load?
Yes sir put the front end loader on top of the neck of the trailer. I have done this 1k times myself. 70hp with shedder and loader on a 20' gooseneck.

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We have a 24í Top Hat gooseneck, 102Ē wide and STOUT that weíre about to sell. Could use a new deck. Only selling as we bought a brand new one for tax reasons!

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