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Old 12-07-2020, 01:42 PM   #1
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You shoot and fail to recover then that's your buck for the year. You cannot shoot another. Fair? Do you have similar?
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Old 12-07-2020, 01:45 PM   #2
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That's fair.
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Old 12-07-2020, 01:46 PM   #3
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We do not have that rule but I have pushed for it.
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Old 12-07-2020, 01:50 PM   #4
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We donít have that rule but know of leases that do


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Old 12-07-2020, 01:50 PM   #5
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Draw blood and that’s your buck 100%

If he shows back up then back at him.
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Old 12-07-2020, 01:53 PM   #6
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I think that is fair. I have lost a buck in the past and it was a no brainer to me. That was my buck for the year and I told the guys that I hunt with that was the case.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:01 PM   #7
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Seems like a no brainer. Fair.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:02 PM   #8
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100% Fair.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:03 PM   #9
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Not a bad rule but there is a danger in having it on some leases. If someone shoots and does not think it is a good shot they may not want to tell anyone they shot. Instead of asking for help to look they may just keep it a secret and not look as long. It depends on trust and who you are hunting with.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:05 PM   #10
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Every lease I was on had that rule, draw blood and it’s your deer.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:06 PM   #11
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Draw blood and its your kill, not only fair but necessary. The rule encourages leasers to not only site in there equipment but practice often to ensure accuracy.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:08 PM   #12
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Not a fan of the rule, we don't have the rule, but I can see certain places having it.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:12 PM   #13
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Makes sense x100000000
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:15 PM   #14
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I can see both sides to this. I am not a fan of the rule but can see where it can certainly cause some issues if it is not in place with leasers. A lot depends on the person shooting and type of leasers on the place. overall seems fair to me though
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:19 PM   #15
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Never had that rule, but that's the way I rolled. If I drew blood then that buck tag was a good as used. Probably why I shoot so many does
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:25 PM   #16
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Draw blood and thatís your buck 100%

If he shows back up then back at him.
100% draw blood itís your deer
This buck was shot buy a hunters kid and lost , father wasnít happy that it ended his season , I found the chewed up skull 2 years later, 50 yards back in some heavy cactus from the blind
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:25 PM   #17
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simple rule...I like it

The lease I was on a few years back had simple rules but the lease manager was the one who wouldnt follow or enforce....
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:28 PM   #18
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Yes it is fair and we have that rule in place on our lease. If you draw blood, it is considered a kill until proven that he is alive and well (Game cameras, hunter sighting).

If you are on the fence about the rule, I would ask this question.....How many bucks would it take for a member to draw blood on and not recover for it to finally count as his "Buck for the year"?

I think the line has to be drawn somewhere, when there's other paid hunters involved. One bad hunter could wound/kill a bunch of bucks and hurt the lease for years to come if there's not some kind of rule in place.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:38 PM   #19
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I like it!!
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:41 PM   #20
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Case by case
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:42 PM   #21
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I agree, 100%. That's your buck for the year!
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:48 PM   #22
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What's the validation for not being in favor of this rule?
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:48 PM   #23
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Draw blood and thatís your buck 100%

If he shows back up then back at him.
I agree, but probably only the honest people will go by it. Deer hunting will make people do and say stupid *****. The rule being in place will at least make someone think carefully before pulling the trigger or letting an arrow fly.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:49 PM   #24
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Sounds fair to me. It would certainly make one practice more and not take shots they arenít confident in.


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Old 12-07-2020, 02:49 PM   #25
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Fair.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:50 PM   #26
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What's the validation for not being in favor of this rule?
The guys that can't hit the broad side of a barn are against it.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:51 PM   #27
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I like the rule, but I also think it will lead to people not admitting to shooting a animal and not giving it the effort it takes to track one. I like to think a lease member wouldnt do that, but we all know there is someone who will.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:53 PM   #28
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I agree, 100%. That's your buck for the year!
Count doe in that too , I shot a MLD doe we couldnít find and the bio marked In our harvest logbook ď dead lostĒ
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:56 PM   #29
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What's the validation for not being in favor of this rule?
A clean miss?
A grazing or other obviously non-lethal shot?
It not being law and completely arbitrarily made up?

However, if everyone agrees to it before joining/before the season though that's another thing.

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Old 12-07-2020, 03:09 PM   #30
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Visible blood or tissue your deer for sure
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Old 12-07-2020, 03:10 PM   #31
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I wish our lease had that rule.
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Old 12-07-2020, 03:11 PM   #32
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That’s a rule.
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Old 12-07-2020, 03:11 PM   #33
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You shoot and fail to recover then that's your buck for the year. You cannot shoot another. Fair? Do you have similar?
Been a unwritten rule on many places that I have hunted. I would have no problem with the rule being a part of the signed/executed set of lease bylaws.

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Old 12-07-2020, 03:54 PM   #34
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Rule is fair and should be up to the discretion of the lease members, and property owner.

I can see both sides of this rule and can think of a few instances where I would and wouldn't enforce this rule. That being said it's very situational and too many variables involved for me to not enforce it.
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Old 12-07-2020, 03:54 PM   #35
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A clean miss?
A grazing or other obviously non-lethal shot?
It not being law and completely arbitrarily made up?

However, if everyone agrees to it before joining/before the season though that's another thing.
I'm assuming the OP means the animal was it but "failure to recover" as in blood/hair/tissue was fond or impact was made.

"A clean miss" should be none of the following hair/blood,tissue and if agreed by other members as a miss. keep hunting.

"A grazing or other obviously non-lethal shot?" That counts as a dead animal till proven other wise. I don't know about you but I've shot an animal I thought was dead to rights until we had him on camera a week later with a small flesh wound. Unless a filmed hunt there's no way of knowing if an animal is wounded or dead.


"It not being law and completely arbitrarily made up?

There are millions of lease rules that aren't laws.
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:02 PM   #36
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On the one hand, it's a good rule that protects quality bucks and incentivizes hunters to practice, take reasonable shots within their skill level, and work at trying to recover wounded bucks. On the other hand, if it happens enough that you need this rule, you might just need some more competent hunters on the lease.

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Old 12-07-2020, 04:03 PM   #37
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Draw blood and thatís your buck 100%

If he shows back up then back at him.
This
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:10 PM   #38
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I like the rule, but I also think it will lead to people not admitting to shooting a animal and not giving it the effort it takes to track one. I like to think a lease member wouldnt do that, but we all know there is someone who will.

Yeah, I think it would bring out dishonesty in some. Big deer make some people do stupid stuff.
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:12 PM   #39
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Not a bad rule but there is a danger in having it on some leases. If someone shoots and does not think it is a good shot they may not want to tell anyone they shot. Instead of asking for help to look they may just keep it a secret and not look as long. It depends on trust and who you are hunting with.
Yep....

Had it & be prepared to hear ďI shot a hog that ran offĒ or ďI heard the shot too...it came from behind my stand.Ē

And thatís just fir the rifle guys...the bow guys just show up a hour later than normal.
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:14 PM   #40
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We have that rule,we can shoot again if deer is seen alive on someones camera,does not have to be same deer we shoot the 2nd time
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:32 PM   #41
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Thought everyone had this rule, who knew? We certainly do and I like it.
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:38 PM   #42
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Nope, not on my lease. **** happens. I won't shut someone down for that... unless it happens again... Our contract with the land owner requires us to call in a tracking dog for any bucks shot/lost that leave a blood trail. If you have to impose a rule to your hunters that they be perfect, you're being unreasonable in my estimation. Been managing leases for almost 50 years. Only had it become an issue once. The guy was not invited back the next year...


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Old 12-07-2020, 04:41 PM   #43
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You shoot and fail to recover then that's your buck for the year. You cannot shoot another. Fair? Do you have similar?
Yep, that's the rule. Goes for all critters.
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:42 PM   #44
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You shoot and fail to recover then that's your buck for the year. You cannot shoot another. Fair? Do you have similar?

That's the way we do it and it works well. Member gets to shoot again if deer is seen alive and there is proof. He's hunting that deer though unless somebody else kills him. Everybody is on board with it because it makes folks practice and holds folks accountable for half-assing it. We have a good pop of deer but we still don't have enough "trophies" for everybody to poke a hole in one never to be seen again and shoot another one.

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Old 12-07-2020, 04:57 PM   #45
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Go to a paid outfitter hunt and wound an animal. Hair, blood or any sign of a hit animal, you pay and hunt is over.

For the people who don't like the rule, explain why outfitters go by it...

I like the rule and have been on leases where it was a rule. If you didn't like it, you didn't have to pay your money and you could hunt somewhere else.

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Old 12-07-2020, 04:59 PM   #46
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Yep - 100% that is your buck until he shows up alive or dead.

If your committed enough to take the shot...your all in. You can't just say oppsies and try again.
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:02 PM   #47
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I have seen this rule on all paid for deer type game ranches. We have never had this rule and it has never been an issue. However, to become a member you have to attend 2 work weekends then come up to hunt with us and have a unanimous member vote on. Most people that are questionable do not make it through the process.

If you have someone on the lease skirting the rules then this one is your least worry. How many deer are shot when nobody else is there, etc.? Have to trust your crew is doing what is best or it is a moot point.

We hear shots all the time that we could swear come from X stand but the way the sound travels around the hills/canyons you just can't count on it.

Next, we will hear about counting arrows and shot trackers at each stand.
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:03 PM   #48
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We have that rule. You own that deer unless it shows up alive on camera again.
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:12 PM   #49
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Nope keep shooting till u get one unless you as the shooter feel that way..
Its just deer hunting for me..I cant seem to get that serious about it but that's just me
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:29 PM   #50
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Just get a thermal. We found two deer last week that might not have been found otherwise. They probably aren't as good as a dog, but you'll find all those deer that are right by where you walked and didn't see it.

As far as the OPs question. If it's a rule, it's a rule. And it will probably make you think twice before taking a long shot.
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